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I need help with installing this setup on my emacs:
http://hide1713.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/setup-perfect-python-environment-in-emacs/
The problem is that I have no clue how to access any .emacs file or .emacs.d
folder. I'm running linux, and they are apparently invisible in my home
directory. Trying to create those makes linux tell me that they're already
there. I've already installed the latest ropemacs, pyflakes, etc.
I'd sincerely appreciate help, since the IDLE just doesn't cut it for me.
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  • Lisi at Jul 4, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    On Monday 04 July 2011 15:46:31 Tidal Espeon wrote:
    I need help with installing this setup on my emacs:
    http://hide1713.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/setup-perfect-python-environment-i
    n-emacs/ The problem is that I have no clue how to access any .emacs file or
    .emacs.d folder. I'm running linux, and they are apparently invisible in my
    home directory. Trying to create those makes linux tell me that they're
    already there. I've already installed the latest ropemacs, pyflakes, etc.
    I'd sincerely appreciate help, since the IDLE just doesn't cut it for me.
    Do you know how to access hidden files, or is that the problem?

    In fact, do you know what hidden files are?

    If you can give me some indication of your skill level (see above questions)
    and your distro (including version) and DE, I might be able to help you; or
    anyhow point you in the right direction.

    Lisi
  • Peter Otten at Jul 4, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    Tidal Espeon wrote:

    I need help with installing this setup on my emacs:
    http://hide1713.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/setup-perfect-python-environment- in-emacs/
    The problem is that I have no clue how to access any .emacs file or
    .emacs.d folder. I'm running linux, and they are apparently invisible in
    my home directory. Trying to create those makes linux tell me that they're
    already there. I've already installed the latest ropemacs, pyflakes, etc.
    I'd sincerely appreciate help, since the IDLE just doesn't cut it for me.
    Files and directories whose name starts with a dot are hidden by default.
    You can make ls show them with the --all/-a option:

    $ touch .name_that_startswith_a_dot
    $ ls
    $ ls -a
    . .. .name_that_startswith_a_dot

    Even though they aren't visible you can open and edit them like any other
    file, e. g. with emacs:

    $ emacs -nw .name_that_startswith_a_dot
  • Alan Gauld at Jul 4, 2011 at 10:59 pm
    "Tidal Espeon" <tidal.espeon at gmail.com> wrote
    I need help with installing this setup on my emacs:
    Why do you want this? Are you already an emacs
    user? If so then fine, go ahead. But if you do not
    already use emacs, lerarning it will be a big effort.
    emacs is a big, powerful tool and once you know
    it you can use it for almost everything. But its not
    something you can learn to use quickly.
    The problem is that I have no clue how to
    access any .emacs file or .emacs.d
    Which strongly suggests you are not n emacs regular.
    If you were you would be editing .emacs regularly!
    the IDLE just doesn't cut it for me.
    There are lots of other development enmvirobnments around.
    If you are a typical GUI user, which it sounds as if you are,
    then a tool liker Eclipse, (or maybe Blackadder or .Wing or SPE)
    might be more appropriate. They are powerful but GUI
    oriented rather than command oriented.

    Frankly if you are not already an emacs user, or unless
    you want to make emacs you standard environment
    in the future and will spend the time changing your
    computing habits to suit emacs, I'd give up and find
    a more GUI friendly tool set!

    And I say that as someone who is an emacs (and vim) user!
    emacs is a powerful tool and a great programmer's
    environment, but it's not for the faint hearted.

    HTH,

    --
    Alan Gauld
    Author of the Learn to Program web site
    http://www.alan-g.me.uk/
  • Eire1130 at Jul 5, 2011 at 12:15 am
    I second this.

    I have a second harddrive with Mint on it. Ithought it might be fun to learn emacs. On windows I've been using eclipse for like 6 to 12 months or however long ago I started.

    I tried emacs for about two seconds and was like, uh no thanks. Downloaded and set up eclipse and I'm still happy. Other than it took too long to set up in mint

    Bonus is I can use it django as well.


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    "Tidal Espeon" <tidal.espeon at gmail.com> wrote
    I need help with installing this setup on my emacs:
    Why do you want this? Are you already an emacs
    user? If so then fine, go ahead. But if you do not
    already use emacs, lerarning it will be a big effort.
    emacs is a big, powerful tool and once you know
    it you can use it for almost everything. But its not
    something you can learn to use quickly.
    The problem is that I have no clue how to
    access any .emacs file or .emacs.d
    Which strongly suggests you are not n emacs regular.
    If you were you would be editing .emacs regularly!
    the IDLE just doesn't cut it for me.
    There are lots of other development enmvirobnments around.
    If you are a typical GUI user, which it sounds as if you are,
    then a tool liker Eclipse, (or maybe Blackadder or .Wing or SPE)
    might be more appropriate. They are powerful but GUI
    oriented rather than command oriented.

    Frankly if you are not already an emacs user, or unless
    you want to make emacs you standard environment
    in the future and will spend the time changing your
    computing habits to suit emacs, I'd give up and find
    a more GUI friendly tool set!

    And I say that as someone who is an emacs (and vim) user!
    emacs is a powerful tool and a great programmer's
    environment, but it's not for the faint hearted.

    HTH,

    --
    Alan Gauld
    Author of the Learn to Program web site
    http://www.alan-g.me.uk/


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  • Col speed at Jul 6, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    On 5 July 2011 07:15, wrote:

    I second this.

    I have a second harddrive with Mint on it. Ithought it might be fun to
    learn emacs. On windows I've been using eclipse for like 6 to 12 months or
    however long ago I started.

    I tried emacs for about two seconds and was like, uh no thanks. Downloaded
    and set up eclipse and I'm still happy. Other than it took too long to set
    up in mint

    Bonus is I can use it django as well.


    Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

    -----Original Message-----
    From: "Alan Gauld" <alan.gauld at btinternet.com>
    Sender: tutor-bounces+eire1130=gmail.com at python.org
    Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:59:48
    To: <tutor at python.org>
    Subject: Re: [Tutor] Help with making emacs work with python syntax
    checking?

    "Tidal Espeon" <tidal.espeon at gmail.com> wrote
    I need help with installing this setup on my emacs:
    Why do you want this? Are you already an emacs
    user? If so then fine, go ahead. But if you do not
    already use emacs, lerarning it will be a big effort.
    emacs is a big, powerful tool and once you know
    it you can use it for almost everything. But its not
    something you can learn to use quickly.
    The problem is that I have no clue how to
    access any .emacs file or .emacs.d
    Which strongly suggests you are not n emacs regular.
    If you were you would be editing .emacs regularly!
    the IDLE just doesn't cut it for me.
    There are lots of other development enmvirobnments around.
    If you are a typical GUI user, which it sounds as if you are,
    then a tool liker Eclipse, (or maybe Blackadder or .Wing or SPE)
    might be more appropriate. They are powerful but GUI
    oriented rather than command oriented.

    Frankly if you are not already an emacs user, or unless
    you want to make emacs you standard environment
    in the future and will spend the time changing your
    computing habits to suit emacs, I'd give up and find
    a more GUI friendly tool set!

    And I say that as someone who is an emacs (and vim) user!
    emacs is a powerful tool and a great programmer's
    environment, but it's not for the faint hearted.

    HTH,

    --
    Alan Gauld
    Author of the Learn to Program web site
    http://www.alan-g.me.uk/


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    and press ctrl+H. Open and change at your peril!

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