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Finally i have managed to install 'Python' and 'Python-pip' from rpms from EPEL repository.


That good BUT:


root at secure [~]# pip install pymysql
Downloading/unpacking pymysql
Downloading PyMySQL-0.6.1.tar.gz (51kB): 51kB downloaded
Running setup.py egg_info for package pymysql
Installing collected packages: pymysql
Running setup.py install for pymysql
Successfully installed pymysql
Cleaning up...
root at secure [~]# pip install pygeoip
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
Installing collected packages: pygeoip
Running setup.py install for pygeoip
Successfully installed pygeoip
Cleaning up...
root at secure [~]#
root at secure [~]# pip list py*
distribute (0.6.10)
ethtool (0.6)
iniparse (0.3.1)
iwlib (1.0)
pycurl (7.19.0)
pygeoip (0.3.0)
pygpgme (0.1)
PyMySQL (0.6.1)
urlgrabber (3.9.1)
yum-metadata-parser (1.1.2)
root at secure [~]#


but when is: http://superhost.gr
i get the error you will like 'pymysql' and 'pymysql' are missing
Since they are install how can they be missing?


root at secure [~]# which python
/usr/bin/python


root at secure [~]# which python3
/usr/bin/python3
root at secure [~]#


The only thing i can think of is that those packages have installed under default python 2.6.6 and not under Python 3.3.2.


Can this be the case here?
And if yes then, how will i e those 2 packages with latest python?

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  • Antoon Pardon at Nov 16, 2013 at 10:41 am
    Op 16-11-13 09:52, Ferrous Cranus schreef:
    but when is: http://superhost.gr
    i get the error you will like 'pymysql' and 'pymysql' are missing
    Since they are install how can they be missing?

    root at secure [~]# which python
    /usr/bin/python

    root at secure [~]# which python3
    /usr/bin/python3
    root at secure [~]#

    The only thing i can think of is that those packages have installed under default python 2.6.6 and not under Python 3.3.2.

    Can this be the case here?

    It can be the case. Now think of a way to verify this.


    --
    Antoon Pardon
  • Ferrous Cranus at Nov 16, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    Perhaps by doing:


    locate pymysql
    locate pygeoip


    or perhaps by using find as follows:
    /usr/local/lib/python3.4/site-packages/PyMySQL-0.6.1-py3.4.egg/pymysql
    /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/build/lib/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/build/lib/pymysql


    root at secure [~]# find / -name pygeoip
    /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/build/lib/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/build/lib/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/pygeoip
    root at secure [~]#
  • Ferrous Cranus at Nov 16, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    What the difference between locate and find?


    and seen find show me some results, what now?


    'rm -rf' those files or i will break something?


    and then how i'am gonna install those 2 modules for python 3.3.2?
  • Ned Batchelder at Nov 16, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    On Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:45:51 AM UTC-5, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    What the difference between locate and find?

    and seen find show me some results, what now?

    'rm -rf' those files or i will break something?

    and then how i'am gonna install those 2 modules for python 3.3.2?

    For locate vs find, you should find a Unix tutorial online, there are many, and will be a better resource than us. Please keep in mind that some of your questions are about how to operate Unix, which is off-topic for this list.


    Just as you use "which python" to figure out what "python" was executing, "which pip" will help you figure out what "pip" is running.


    --Ned.
  • Roy Smith at Nov 16, 2013 at 2:25 pm
    In article <cfd71610-1e34-4fec-82b0-fac2d4e91f7b@googlegroups.com>,
      Ned Batchelder wrote:

    Just as you use "which python" to figure out what "python" was executing,
    "which pip" will help you figure out what "pip" is running.

    And along those lines, if you're unsure where you're importing a module
    from, you can examine the __file__ attribute to find out:

    import requests
    requests.__file__
    '/home/songza/deploy/rel-2013-11-14d/python/local/lib/python2.7/site-pack
    ages/requests/__init__.pyc'
  • Ferrous Cranus at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    Just as you use "which python" to figure out what "python" was executing, >"which pip" will help you figure out what "pip" is running.

    root at secure [~]# which python3
    /usr/bin/python3


    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/python3
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/python3: Not a directory


    root at secure [~]# which pip
    /usr/bin/pip


    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/pip
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/pip: Not a directory


    WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THIS DAMN CentOS 6.4?


    WHY CANT I JUST CD INTO HESE DAMN FOLDERS?
  • YBM at Nov 16, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Le 16.11.2013 16:43, Ferrous Cranus a ?crit :
    Just as you use "which python" to figure out what "python" was executing, >"which pip" will help you figure out what "pip" is running.
    root at secure [~]# which python3
    /usr/bin/python3

    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/python3
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/python3: Not a directory

    root at secure [~]# which pip
    /usr/bin/pip

    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/pip
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/pip: Not a directory

    WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THIS DAMN CentOS 6.4?

    WHY CANT I JUST CD INTO HESE DAMN FOLDERS?

    What don't you understand in what bash told you with
    "Not a directory" ?
  • Denis McMahon at Nov 17, 2013 at 1:07 am

    On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:49:17 +0100, YBM wrote:


    Le 16.11.2013 16:43, Ferrous Cranus a ?crit :
    root at secure [~]# which python3 /usr/bin/python3
    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/python3 -bash: cd: /usr/bin/python3: Not a
    directory
    root at secure [~]# which pip /usr/bin/pip
    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/pip -bash: cd: /usr/bin/pip: Not a
    directory
    WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THIS DAMN CentOS 6.4?
    WHY CANT I JUST CD INTO HESE DAMN FOLDERS?
    What don't you understand in what bash told you with "Not a directory" ?

    He doesn't understand error messages until he's posted them on usenet and
    had them explained to him.


    I think his default state of mind is "I'm perfect, therefore I can't have
    made a mistake, so the software must be broken."


    Then he posts the error messages here and we all laugh at his ineptitude.


    I would answer his question, but I foreswore helping him days ago now,
    you just get too much abuse because (in his opinion) your answer includes
    excessive whitespace.


    --
    Denis McMahon, denismfmcmahon at gmail.com
  • Mark Lawrence at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    On 16/11/2013 13:45, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    What the difference between locate and find?

    I neither know nor care as it's not Python related.

    and seen find show me some results, what now?

    'rm -rf' those files or i will break something?

    Ditto.

    and then how i'am gonna install those 2 modules for python 3.3.2?

    I assume you can navigate to the Python 3.3.2 directory where pip is
    installed and run it from there.


    --
    Python is the second best programming language in the world.
    But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer


    Mark Lawrence
  • Ferrous Cranus at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    ?? ???????, 16 ????????? 2013 5:20:51 ?.?. UTC+2, ? ??????? Mark Lawrence ??????:
    On 16/11/2013 13:45, Ferrous Cranus wrote:

    What the difference between locate and find?


    I neither know nor care as it's not Python related.



    and seen find show me some results, what now?

    'rm -rf' those files or i will break something?
    Ditto.
    Doe 'ditto' mean 'yes'?
    Here si what i ahve tried:


    root at secure [~]# locate *python3.4*
    /root/.local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/include/python3.4m
    /usr/local/lib/libpython3.4m.a
    /usr/local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/share/man/man1/python3.4.1


    root at secure [~]# locate *python3.4* | rm -rf


    root at secure [~]# locate *python3.4*
    /root/.local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/include/python3.4m
    /usr/local/lib/libpython3.4m.a
    /usr/local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/share/man/man1/python3.4.1


    root at secure [~]# find / -name *python3.4* | rm -rf


    root at secure [~]# locate python3.4
    /root/.local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/include/python3.4m
    /usr/local/lib/libpython3.4m.a
    /usr/local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/share/man/man1/python3.4.1


    many files of python's 3.4a have been deleted this way, but the aboe displayed persist.

    and then how i'am gonna install those 2 modules for python 3.3.2?
    I assume you can navigate to the Python 3.3.2 directory where pip is
    installed and run it from there.

    root at secure [~]# which python3
    /usr/bin/python3


    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/python3
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/python3: Not a directory


    It seems that i cannot even cd into this folder, wtf....
  • Johannes Findeisen at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:32:36 -0800 (PST) Ferrous Cranus wrote:


    ?? ???????, 16 ????????? 2013 5:20:51 ?.?. UTC+2, ? ??????? Mark Lawrence ??????:
    On 16/11/2013 13:45, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/python3
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/python3: Not a directory

    It seems that i cannot even cd into this folder, wtf....

    Nikos, please stop now! We can not teach you in Unix/Linux basics here.
    You really have to learn a lot. You are missing tons of basics so it
    makes no sense to help you here because you need to learn a lot before
    you can understand answers to this!


    BTW, /usr/bin/python3 is a file and not a directory! This is what the
    error message says!


    You are really destroying this list! Go to other places like
    stackoverflow and ask your questions there. You are mixing a lot of
    topics and this is not helpful to others!


    Johannes
  • Ned Batchelder at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    On Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:45:38 AM UTC-5, Johannes Findeisen wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:32:36 -0800 (PST)
    Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    ?? ???????, 16 ????????? 2013 5:20:51 ?.?. UTC+2, ? ??????? Mark Lawrence ??????:
    On 16/11/2013 13:45, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/python3
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/python3: Not a directory

    It seems that i cannot even cd into this folder, wtf....
    Nikos, please stop now! We can not teach you in Unix/Linux basics here.
    You really have to learn a lot. You are missing tons of basics so it
    makes no sense to help you here because you need to learn a lot before
    you can understand answers to this!

    BTW, /usr/bin/python3 is a file and not a directory! This is what the
    error message says!

    Johannes, in cases like this, it is very important to have a clear message. I liked that you said, "We cannot teach you Unix basics here". It weakens that message if you then teach some Unix basics. Better to keep things very simple.


    Unix questions are off-topic, and will not be answered in this forum. Do not answer them.


    --Ned.

    Johannes
  • Johannes Findeisen at Nov 16, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:56:47 -0800 (PST) Ned Batchelder wrote:
    Johannes, in cases like this, it is very important to have a clear message. I liked that you said, "We cannot teach you Unix basics here". It weakens that message if you then teach some Unix basics. Better to keep things very simple.

    Unix questions are off-topic, and will not be answered in this forum. Do not answer them.

    Hi Ned,


    You are totally right, I agree with you! Thanks for your reply! I will
    not do that anymore.


    Johannes
  • YBM at Nov 16, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Le 16.11.2013 16:32, Ferrous Cranus a ?crit :
    root at secure [~]# locate python3.4
    /root/.local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/include/python3.4m
    /usr/local/lib/libpython3.4m.a
    /usr/local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/share/man/man1/python3.4.1

    many files of python's 3.4a have been deleted this way, but the aboe displayed persist.

    I doubt it, find ... | rm ... does absolutely nothing as you'd have
    figured out by yourself if you had a brain.

    and then how i'am gonna install those 2 modules for python 3.3.2?
    I assume you can navigate to the Python 3.3.2 directory where pip is
    installed and run it from there.
    root at secure [~]# which python3
    /usr/bin/python3

    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/python3
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/python3: Not a directory

    It seems that i cannot even cd into this folder, wtf....

    Perhaps because this is not a folder. Learn to read.
  • Ned Batchelder at Nov 16, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    On Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:48:19 AM UTC-5, YBM wrote:
    Le 16.11.2013 16:32, Ferrous Cranus a ?crit :
    root at secure [~]# locate python3.4
    /root/.local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/include/python3.4m
    /usr/local/lib/libpython3.4m.a
    /usr/local/lib/python3.4
    /usr/local/share/man/man1/python3.4.1

    many files of python's 3.4a have been deleted this way, but the aboe displayed persist.
    I doubt it, find ... | rm ... does absolutely nothing as you'd have
    figured out by yourself if you had a brain.
    and then how i'am gonna install those 2 modules for python 3.3.2?
    I assume you can navigate to the Python 3.3.2 directory where pip is
    installed and run it from there.
    root at secure [~]# which python3
    /usr/bin/python3

    root at secure [~]# cd /usr/bin/python3
    -bash: cd: /usr/bin/python3: Not a directory

    It seems that i cannot even cd into this folder, wtf....
    Perhaps because this is not a folder. Learn to read.

    Nikos is being annoying, but there is no need to contribute to the thread just to insult him. It doesn't make the thread stop, it doesn't make the list a better community, and it doesn't work to improve Nikos' behavior.


    http://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/


    --Ned.
  • Mark Lawrence at Nov 16, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    On 16/11/2013 16:51, Ned Batchelder wrote:
    On Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:48:19 AM UTC-5, YBM wrote:

    Perhaps because this is not a folder. Learn to read.
    Nikos is being annoying, but there is no need to contribute to the thread just to insult him. It doesn't make the thread stop, it doesn't make the list a better community, and it doesn't work to improve Nikos' behavior.

    http://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

    --Ned.

    For the record has anybody ever pointed Nikos at the code of conduct?
    If yes good. If no why not, and why then point it out to someone who to
    my knowledge has never posted here before?


    --
    Python is the second best programming language in the world.
    But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer


    Mark Lawrence
  • Robert Kern at Nov 16, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    On 2013-11-16 17:02, Mark Lawrence wrote:
    On 16/11/2013 16:51, Ned Batchelder wrote:
    On Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:48:19 AM UTC-5, YBM wrote:

    Perhaps because this is not a folder. Learn to read.
    Nikos is being annoying, but there is no need to contribute to the thread just
    to insult him. It doesn't make the thread stop, it doesn't make the list a
    better community, and it doesn't work to improve Nikos' behavior.

    http://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/

    --Ned.
    For the record has anybody ever pointed Nikos at the code of conduct? If yes
    good.

    I believe so, but I can't summon the will to search for it.

    If no why not, and why then point it out to someone who to my knowledge
    has never posted here before?

    Being presented with the community's code of conduct is not a punishment for bad
    behavior. Newcomers are the *primary* audience for the code of conduct. I'm old
    enough to remember moderated listservs (as was the fashion at the time) that
    would automatically reply to each new poster with the listserv's charter and
    expected rules of netiquette (which is what we called it in those halcyon days).


    --
    Robert Kern


    "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
       that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
       an underlying truth."
        -- Umberto Eco
  • Nikos at Nov 17, 2013 at 9:04 am
    ???? 16/11/2013 6:48 ??, ?/? YBM ??????:
    I doubt it, find ... | rm ... does absolutely nothing as you'd have
    figured out by yourself if you had a brain.







    ?ut 'find / -name python34 | xargs rm -rf' does what i want.
  • Joel Goldstick at Nov 16, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    not related to python

    On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:

    Perhaps by doing:

    locate pymysql
    locate pygeoip

    or perhaps by using find as follows:
    /usr/local/lib/python3.4/site-packages/PyMySQL-0.6.1-py3.4.egg/pymysql
    /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/build/lib/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/build/lib/pymysql

    root at secure [~]# find / -name pygeoip
    /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/build/lib/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/build/lib/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/pygeoip
    root at secure [~]#
    --
    https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list





    --
    Joel Goldstick
    http://joelgoldstick.com
  • Νίκος at Nov 16, 2013 at 1:59 pm
    HELP MEEEEE!!!!
    ???? 16/11/2013 3:53 ??, ?/? Joel Goldstick ??????:
    not related to python
    On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    Perhaps by doing:

    locate pymysql
    locate pygeoip

    or perhaps by using find as follows:
    /usr/local/lib/python3.4/site-packages/PyMySQL-0.6.1-py3.4.egg/pymysql
    /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/pymysql
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/build/lib/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/pymysql
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pymysql/build/lib/pymysql

    root at secure [~]# find / -name pygeoip
    /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/build/lib/pygeoip
    /var/tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/build/lib/pygeoip
    /tmp/pip-build-root/pygeoip/pygeoip
    root at secure [~]#
    --
    https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


    --
    WebHost <http://superhost.gr>
  • Robert Kern at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    On 2013-11-16 13:59, ????? wrote:
    HELP MEEEEE!!!!

    The kind people at http://serverfault.com/ can help you with your system
    administration problems. I'm afraid that we cannot.


    --
    Robert Kern


    "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
       that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
       an underlying truth."
        -- Umberto Eco
  • Ferrous Cranus at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    ?? ???????, 16 ????????? 2013 5:01:15 ?.?. UTC+2, ? ??????? Robert Kern ??????:
    On 2013-11-16 13:59, ????? wrote:

    HELP MEEEEE!!!!


    The kind people at http://serverfault.com/ can help you with your system

    administration problems. I'm afraid that we cannot.



    --

    Robert Kern

    Robert i have followed your advise and akse there the other time for why yum cannot detect python and pip and what i should do.


    i received no reply 2-3 days now.
    I will nto ask there again.
  • Andreas Perstinger at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    On 16.11.2013 16:13, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    ?? ???????, 16 ????????? 2013 5:01:15 ?.?. UTC+2, ? ??????? Robert
    Kern ??????:
    The kind people at http://serverfault.com/ can help you with your
    system administration problems. I'm afraid that we cannot.
    Robert i have followed your advise and akse there the other time for
    why yum cannot detect python and pip and what i should do.

    i received no reply 2-3 days now.
    I will nto ask there again.

    The only question I've found from you on serverfault


    http://serverfault.com/questions/555054/python-pip-installation-under-centos-6-4


    was answered within one hour (you asked at 2013-11-14 17:27:33Z,
    "yoonix" answered at 2013-11-14 18:19:54Z). But since he didn't spoonfed
    you, no wonder that you ignore that answer.


    Bye, Andreas
  • Ned Batchelder at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    On Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:59:13 AM UTC-5, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    HELP MEEEEE!!!!
    ???? 16/11/2013 3:53 ??, ?/? Joel Goldstick ??????:
    not related to python

    Nikos, stop this. You are sending repeated emails with no new information, and no evidence that you have tried anything, about off-topic questions. This will only annoy people on the list.


    --Ned.
  • Ferrous Cranus at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    ?? ???????, 16 ????????? 2013 5:04:41 ?.?. UTC+2, ? ??????? Ned Batchelder ??????:
    On Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:59:13 AM UTC-5, Ferrous Cranus wrote:

    HELP MEEEEE!!!!
    ???? 16/11/2013 3:53 ??, ?/? Joel Goldstick ??????:
    not related to python


    Nikos, stop this. You are sending repeated emails with no new information, and no evidence that you have tried anything, about off-topic questions. This will only annoy people on the list.

    My first post had information within it.
    Alo i have managed to utilize EPEL repository and install python33 and python-pip using it without ZERO help from you.


    Now i cant overcome the moules obstacle although i ave installed it like


    pip install pymysql
    pip install pygeoip


    Why cant i use it?


    How can i unistall it and install it properly?
    If you know and wont tell me but instead you devote time to make ironic comments against me i will re-post the exact same question each time.
  • Ferrous Cranus at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    Also there are leftovers form python3.4a


    Iam thinking fo deleting those as:


    'locate pyth?n3.4 | rm -rf'


    will this help or do any accidental damage?
  • Dave Angel at Nov 17, 2013 at 3:33 am

    On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:15:01 -0800 (PST), Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    'locate pyth?n3.4 | rm -rf'






    will this help or do any accidental damage?

    The files deleted by the rm -rf have nothing to do with the results
    of locate. Since you don't understand that , your system is at high
    risk till you learn the use of whichever shell you're using.


    Come back to python when you understand bash (or whatever shell
    you're using).


    --
    DaveA
  • Chris Angelico at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    If you know and wont tell me but instead you devote time to make ironic comments against me i will re-post the exact same question each time.

    Then you will quickly get killfiled by more and more people, and in
    the process will be working hard to destroy this group.


    Your questions are NOT PYTHON QUESTIONS and they should be taken
    elsewhere. You have been advised of this. Go, confront the problem.
    Fight! Win!


    ChrisA
    not finishing the quote from Edna Mode as it's applicable only that far
  • Ferrous Cranus at Nov 16, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    ?? ???????, 16 ????????? 2013 5:19:21 ?.?. UTC+2, ? ??????? Chris Angelico ??????:
    On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:

    If you know and wont tell me but instead you devote time to make ironic comments against me i will re-post the exact same question each time.


    Then you will quickly get killfiled by more and more people, and in

    the process will be working hard to destroy this group.



    Your questions are NOT PYTHON QUESTIONS and they should be taken

    elsewhere. You have been advised of this. Go, confront the problem.

    Fight! Win!

    I have no intention to destroy this fine group, all i need is some imple help.
    Please just help me solve this since you are see me trying and not just make unhelpful remarks.
  • Mm0fmf at Nov 16, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    On 16/11/2013 15:33, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
    I have no intention to destroy this fine group, all i need is some imple help.

    But you are destroying it.


    You don't read the help given, you don't know the basic Linux commands,
    you can't use Google, you insist on using profanities to gain attention,
    you scream and shout for help, you dismiss good advice when you don't
    know better, you go against the code of conduct for the group.


    This group had the best signal to noise ratio of any unmoderated group
    I've seen in the last 15 years. It's full of genuine helpful people with
    useful replies. I've learnt a lot from reading those replies.


    I was fascinated watching the car crash of Nikos development at first.
    I'm still not sure if anyone could really be both so arrogant and
    completely inept and clueless at the same time. I have a nagging doubt
    that Nikos is a troll inflicted on us by someone who doesn't like Python
    and not a person.


    I should have done this a long time ago... Nikos, welcome to my
    killfile. *Plonk* (It's *plonk* *plonk* due to the various identities
    being used.)


    And yes, I've made comments about Nikos in the threads when I should
    have known better. Killfiling him will remove any temptation to do so in
    future.


    Andy
  • Steven D'Aprano at Nov 17, 2013 at 5:52 am

    On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:59:13 +0200, ????? wrote:


    HELP MEEEEE!!!!

    How rude. You're not the centre of the universe and we're not your mother.


    *plonk*






    --
    Steven

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