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I'm trying to get Apache set up on my system so I can use mod_python.
I installed Apache 2.2.4 according to the following instructions:

http://switch.richard5.net/isp-in-a-box-v2/installing-apache-on-mac-os-x/#comment-30704

and everything seemed to install correctly, but I can't start Apache.
I typed in the following command:

$ sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start
Password:

and I got this error message:

httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
domain name, using tms-computer.local for ServerName
(48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
0.0.0.0:80
no listening sockets available, shutting down
Unable to open logs

Any ideas?

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  • Half Italian at Jun 26, 2007 at 2:47 am

    On Jun 25, 7:23 pm, 7stud wrote:
    I'm trying to get Apache set up on my system so I can use mod_python.
    I installed Apache 2.2.4 according to the following instructions:

    http://switch.richard5.net/isp-in-a-box-v2/installing-apache-on-mac-o...

    and everything seemed to install correctly, but I can't start Apache.
    I typed in the following command:

    $ sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start
    Password:

    and I got this error message:

    httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
    domain name, using tms-computer.local for ServerName
    (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
    0.0.0.0:80
    no listening sockets available, shutting down
    Unable to open logs

    Any ideas?
    Do you have "Web Sharing" in the prefs on as well? Possibly the built-
    in apache is already started on port 80.

    I've had luck with these: http://www.serverlogistics.com/downloads.php

    Except it's tuff to compile new versions into these. I failed at
    getting PHP5 running under it, but they work well out of the box.

    ~Sean
  • 7stud at Jun 26, 2007 at 6:09 am

    On Jun 25, 7:23 pm, 7stud wrote:


    I'm trying to get Apache set up on my system so I can use mod_python.
    I installed Apache 2.2.4 according to the following instructions:
    http://switch.richard5.net/isp-in-a-box-v2/installing-apache-on-mac-o...
    and everything seemed to install correctly, but I can't start Apache.
    I typed in the following command:
    $ sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start
    Password:
    and I got this error message:
    httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
    domain name, using tms-computer.local for ServerName
    (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
    0.0.0.0:80
    no listening sockets available, shutting down
    Unable to open logs
    Any ideas?
    Do you have "Web Sharing" in the prefs on as well?
    I checked and to my surprise Personal Web Sharing was turned on. I
    was messing around with it yesterday because I thought that might have
    something to do with my problems, but I couldn't get Personal Web
    Sharing to start--it just said "Web Sharing starting up...", and it
    never did.

    Anyway, I turned Personal Web Sharing off, and then the error message
    changed to this:

    $ sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start
    Password:
    httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
    domain name, using tms-computer.local for ServerName

    However, I checked the All Processes page in the Activity Monitor, and
    it said httpd was running. So I tested my apache installation by
    typing http:/localhost in Safari's address bar, and a page displayed
    saying "It works!". But I wondered if that page was being served up
    by the pre-installed version of Apache or my new installation. So, I
    went into my new installation's directory and looked at the file:

    /Library/Apache2/htdocs/index.html

    and changed the text from "It works!" to "Apache 2.2.4", but when I
    retyped http:/localhost in Safari's address bar, I still got a page
    saying "It works!", so that page is not being served by my new
    installation.
  • 7stud at Jun 26, 2007 at 6:42 am
    Ok. If I try to start Personal Web Sharing while Apache is running,
    it says "Web Sharing starting up...", but it never does. Then if I
    close the window and restart my imac, my imac boots up with Personal
    Web Sharing turned on.

    I still can't figure out where the page that says "It works!" is
    located. It must be in the pre installed apache directory, but I have
    no idea where it is on my imac. And, I don't understand why the page
    isn't being served up by my new installation since I started the new
    Apache using the command:

    $sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start

    I didn't start the pre-installed Apache.

    Also, when I look at the Activity monitor, there is an httpd root
    process with pid 285, and then there are 6 daemon http processes with
    pids 286, 287, 288, 289, 290, 291. What is that all about?
  • Kaens at Jun 26, 2007 at 6:52 am

    On 6/26/07, 7stud wrote:
    Ok. If I try to start Personal Web Sharing while Apache is running,
    it says "Web Sharing starting up...", but it never does. Then if I
    close the window and restart my imac, my imac boots up with Personal
    Web Sharing turned on.

    I still can't figure out where the page that says "It works!" is
    located. It must be in the pre installed apache directory, but I have
    no idea where it is on my imac. And, I don't understand why the page
    isn't being served up by my new installation since I started the new
    Apache using the command:

    $sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start

    I didn't start the pre-installed Apache.

    Also, when I look at the Activity monitor, there is an httpd root
    process with pid 285, and then there are 6 daemon http processes with
    pids 286, 287, 288, 289, 290, 291. What is that all about?

    --
    http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
    If apache2 works on macs how it does on linux (it should, right?)
    there should be Apache2/sites-enabled and Apache2/sites-available
    directories - the "default" files in these will tell you what pages
    are being served, I believe.

    Maybe apachectl restart?

    Also, I think the processes are normal, but I'm not sure. Apache is a
    pretty heavyweight server.
  • 7stud at Jun 26, 2007 at 7:04 am

    On Jun 26, 12:52 am, kaens wrote:
    If apache2 works on macs how it does on linux (it should, right?)
    there should be Apache2/sites-enabled and Apache2/sites-available
    directories - the "default" files in these will tell you what pages
    are being served, I believe.
    There are no such directories in my new installation directory /
    Library/Apache2
    Also, I think the processes are normal, but I'm not sure. Apache is a
    pretty heavyweight server.
    Ok.
  • 7stud at Jun 26, 2007 at 7:34 am
    Well, I'm able to put html pages in /Library/Apache2/htdocs/ and
    access them in Safari as I would expect:

    http://localhost/test.htm

    and I can access the index.html page in that directory:

    http://localhost/index.html

    and it displays:

    It works! Apache 2.2.4

    But, if I just use the address http://localhost/ in Safari, this is
    displayed:

    It works!

    Where is that coming from? Is the original index.html page(before I
    changed it and added "Apache 2.2.4") cached by Safari somehow? That
    doesn't make any sense to me because when I explicitly request
    index.html, I get the changed output.
  • 7stud at Jun 26, 2007 at 7:41 am

    On Jun 26, 1:34 am, 7stud wrote:
    Where is that coming from? Is the original index.html page(before I
    changed it and added "Apache 2.2.4") cached by Safari somehow? That
    doesn't make any sense to me because when I explicitly request
    index.html, I get the changed output.
    I looked around in Safari for a bit, and I found Empty Cache under the
    Safari menu item. So I emptied the cache and now when I use the
    address http://localhost, I get the changed index.html page. So
    Safari was caching the original page. I guess Safari associate the
    address http://localhost with the original index.html page, and Safari
    would not display the updated index.html page when I used that address
    again.
  • Half Italian at Jun 26, 2007 at 7:53 am

    On Jun 25, 11:09 pm, 7stud wrote:
    On Jun 25, 7:23 pm, 7stud wrote:

    I'm trying to get Apache set up on my system so I can use mod_python.
    I installed Apache 2.2.4 according to the following instructions:
    and everything seemed to install correctly, but I can't start Apache.
    I typed in the following command:
    $ sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start
    Password:
    and I got this error message:
    httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
    domain name, using tms-computer.local for ServerName
    (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
    0.0.0.0:80
    no listening sockets available, shutting down
    Unable to open logs
    Any ideas?
    Do you have "Web Sharing" in the prefs on as well?
    I checked and to my surprise Personal Web Sharing was turned on. I
    was messing around with it yesterday because I thought that might have
    something to do with my problems, but I couldn't get Personal Web
    Sharing to start--it just said "Web Sharing starting up...", and it
    never did.

    Anyway, I turned Personal Web Sharing off, and then the error message
    changed to this:

    $ sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start
    Password:
    httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
    domain name, using tms-computer.local for ServerName

    However, I checked the All Processes page in the Activity Monitor, and
    it said httpd was running. So I tested my apache installation by
    typing http:/localhost in Safari's address bar, and a page displayed
    saying "It works!". But I wondered if that page was being served up
    by the pre-installed version of Apache or my new installation. So, I
    went into my new installation's directory and looked at the file:

    /Library/Apache2/htdocs/index.html

    and changed the text from "It works!" to "Apache 2.2.4", but when I
    retyped http:/localhost in Safari's address bar, I still got a page
    saying "It works!", so that page is not being served by my new
    installation.
    Console and the system logs are an invaluable debugging tool on Macs.
    Bet you have some errors there saying why apache couldnt stop/start.

    Glad you got it working.

    ~Sean
  • 7stud at Jun 26, 2007 at 9:49 am

    Console and the system logs are an invaluable debugging tool on Macs.
    Bet you have some errors there saying why apache couldnt stop/start.
    What/where is Console and how do I look at the system logs?
  • Bruno Desthuilliers at Jun 26, 2007 at 10:00 am

    7stud a ?crit :
    I'm trying to get Apache set up on my system so I can use mod_python.
    I installed Apache 2.2.4 according to the following instructions:

    http://switch.richard5.net/isp-in-a-box-v2/installing-apache-on-mac-os-x/#comment-30704

    and everything seemed to install correctly, but I can't start Apache.
    I typed in the following command:

    $ sudo /Library/Apache2/bin/apachectl start
    Password:

    and I got this error message:

    httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
    domain name, using tms-computer.local for ServerName
    (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
    0.0.0.0:80
    no listening sockets available, shutting down
    Unable to open logs

    Any ideas?
    yes : please post on a Mac newsgroup. This has nothing to do with Python.

    This group is highly tolerant[1], but you'll probably find the best
    answers on a mac-related newsgroup, because that's where the Mac expert
    are (or at least are supposed to be).

    [1] as a matter of fact, you got some answers to a totally OT post not
    even labelled as such - on some ng you would have been shot down in
    flames instead...

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