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  • Terry Reedy at Aug 30, 2003 at 11:41 pm
    <zsh-users-help at sunsite.dk> wrote in message
    news:mailman.1062283998.26328.python-list at python.org...
    Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the Hi, exmlm
    zsh-users at sunsite.dk mailing list.

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    Usually, this happens when you just hit the "reply" button.
    If this does not work, simply copy the address and paste it into
    the "To:" field of a new message.

    I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the mailing
    list.

    Then you are a pretty dumb program. I bet it is not. You should know
    that any 'user' called xxx-list is another mailing list and that any
    attempt to subscript or unsubscript such is a casual or malicious joke
    (possibly from viruses, as probably with this case). What would you
    do if I forged an email trying to subscribe/unsubscribe zsh-users
    to/from itself? Would you send a messege asking it to reply?

    Tempted programmer

    PS. Anyone know what mailman would do?
  • Claus Alboege at Aug 31, 2003 at 7:50 am

    "Terry Reedy" <tjreedy at udel.edu> writes:

    <zsh-users-help at sunsite.dk> wrote in message
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    Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the Hi, exmlm
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    Usually, this happens when you just hit the "reply" button.
    If this does not work, simply copy the address and paste it into
    the "To:" field of a new message.

    I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the mailing
    list.

    Then you are a pretty dumb program. I bet it is not. You should know
    that any 'user' called xxx-list is another mailing list and that any
    attempt to subscript or unsubscript such is a casual or malicious joke
    (possibly from viruses, as probably with this case).
    Ever heard of sublists? And about people using different addresses for
    each list they subscribe to, such as user-xxx-list at dom.tld?
    What would you do if I forged an email trying to subscribe/unsubscribe
    zsh-users to/from itself? Would you send a messege asking it to reply?
    Yes, but the confirmation request would never reach the list. Ezmlm
    will reject messages containing a "Mailing-List" header. (Unless it has
    been configured as a sublist)

    Probably Mailman should do the same!?


    /Claus A
  • Terry Reedy at Aug 31, 2003 at 3:51 pm
    "Claus Alboege" <csa at csa-net.dk> wrote in message
    news:20030831.095012515090500 at csa-net.dk...
    "Terry Reedy" <tjreedy at udel.edu> writes:
    I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the
    mailing
    list.

    Then you are a pretty dumb program.
    Not checking for the subscriber list is what I thought dumb.
    Ever heard of sublists?
    I would expect sublists to be specially configured, by or with list
    owner approval, as you seem to imply below, rather than added thru
    public subscribe mechanism.
    And about people using different addresses for
    each list they subscribe to, such as user-xxx-list at dom.tld?
    No. I have never had unlimited address availability. I have exactly
    1 from udel and 7 for the family from ISP. But it soulds like a great
    idea. Just yesterday I got virus spam sent to names harvested from a
    particular list. If I had a special address for that list, I would
    resubscribe with a new name. If I ever buy a domain-name service with
    'unlimited' email accounts, I will try this. Thanks.
    will reject messages containing a "Mailing-List" header. (Unless it has
    been configured as a sublist)
    TJR
  • Claus Alboege at Aug 31, 2003 at 5:07 pm

    "Terry Reedy" <tjreedy at udel.edu> writes:

    "Claus Alboege" <csa at csa-net.dk> wrote in message
    news:20030831.095012515090500 at csa-net.dk...
    "Terry Reedy" <tjreedy at udel.edu> writes:
    I haven't checked whether your address is currently on the
    mailing
    list.

    Then you are a pretty dumb program.
    Not checking for the subscriber list is what I thought dumb.
    Oh, well I'm not sure why it has been implemented that way, but two
    reasons that comes into mind are, code simplicity and the fact that
    these bogus unsubscribe requests are really rare - at least until now.
    Ever heard of sublists?
    I would expect sublists to be specially configured, by or with list
    owner approval, as you seem to imply below, rather than added thru
    public subscribe mechanism.
    Not nessecarily. Having a bunch of users, behind a slow and expencive
    link, each one subscribed to more or less the same set of lists, would
    benefit from sublists. These can easily be setup by the local
    admin. There is no need to involve the admin of the parent list.
    And about people using different addresses for
    each list they subscribe to, such as user-xxx-list at dom.tld?
    No. I have never had unlimited address availability. I have exactly
    1 from udel and 7 for the family from ISP. But it soulds like a great
    idea. Just yesterday I got virus spam sent to names harvested from a
    particular list. If I had a special address for that list, I would
    resubscribe with a new name.
    Exactly, yet another way to deal with spam :)
    If I ever buy a domain-name service with 'unlimited' email accounts, I
    will try this. Thanks.

    /Claus A
  • JanC at Sep 1, 2003 at 3:10 am

    "Terry Reedy" <tjreedy at udel.edu> schreef:

    And about people using different addresses for
    each list they subscribe to, such as user-xxx-list at dom.tld?
    No. I have never had unlimited address availability. I have exactly
    1 from udel and 7 for the family from ISP. But it soulds like a great
    idea. Just yesterday I got virus spam sent to names harvested from a
    particular list. If I had a special address for that list, I would
    resubscribe with a new name. If I ever buy a domain-name service with
    'unlimited' email accounts, I will try this. Thanks.
    No need to pay for it: <http://www.cjb.net/>
    Unlimited aliasses @username.cjb.net for free... :-)

    (don't use it for important mails--their spam filter is too good sometimes)

    --
    JanC

    "Be strict when sending and tolerant when receiving."
    RFC 1958 - Architectural Principles of the Internet - section 3.9
  • Zsh-Users-Help at Sep 1, 2003 at 1:59 am
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    The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
    their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.

    You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
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    If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
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    lot slower than I am ;-)

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