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im trying to get idle to work and its really getting frustrating
(and from what ive read on other posts i am not alone)

i think i have to edit the Modules/Setup file but im confused as
to what to uncoment and what to change.

i dont know where my Tcl/Tk libraries are
i think my Tcl/Tk headers are in /usr/include/ (not in
/usr/local/include)
im not sure where my X11 headers are (they werent in /usr/x11r6/include)
Tix/BLT - dont know what those are
im pretty sure my tcl/tk version is 8.3(rpm -qa tcl/tk reveals 8.3.5-88)

and so then i should rebuild and reinstall.
and then "Make sure to enable the _tkinter module as well as the
TKPATH variable definition."(not sure what they mean by enable or
what to do with TKPATH)

2 questions:
Why does this have to be so difficult?
Can anyone provide step by step inststructions?

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  • Martin v. Löwis at Aug 3, 2003 at 7:50 am

    "RT Lange" <whiteywidow at yahoo.com> writes:

    im trying to get idle to work and its really getting frustrating
    (and from what ive read on other posts i am not alone)

    i think i have to edit the Modules/Setup file but im confused as
    to what to uncoment and what to change.
    No, you don't have to edit Modules/Setup. _tkinter is built
    automatically if you have the header files installed.
    Why does this have to be so difficult?
    Because you have limited disk space. As a result of that, Redhat
    decides not to install all header files by default. As a result of
    that, you have to make an explicit choise as to what header files to
    install.
    Can anyone provide step by step inststructions?
    Sorry, I don't have Redhat 9, so I don't know what the name of the
    package is that contains the Tk header files. It probably has the
    strings "tcl" and "dev" in their name.

    I also don't know whether you installed the system from CD-ROM, DVD,
    or via the network, so I can't give precise instructions as to what
    media to insert into what slot.

    It would be better if you reported the steps you have been doing, and
    the problems you see.

    Regards,
    Martin
  • RT Lange at Aug 3, 2003 at 3:57 pm

    On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 09:50:26 +0200, Martin v. L?wis wrote:

    No, you don't have to edit Modules/Setup. _tkinter is built
    automatically if you have the header files installed.
    i have the header files: /usr/include/tcl.h;/usr/include/tk.h
    Sorry, I don't have Redhat 9, so I don't know what the name of the
    package is that contains the Tk header files. It probably has the
    strings "tcl" and "dev" in their name.
    the package is buried under "Kernel Development"
    It would be better if you reported the steps you have been doing, and
    the problems you see.
    [root@/usr/lib/Python-2.3]# make
    case $MAKEFLAGS in \
    *-s*) CC='gcc -pthread' LDSHARED='gcc -pthread -shared' OPT='-DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall
    -Wstrict-prototypes' ./python -E ./setup.py -q build;; \
    *) CC='gcc -pthread' LDSHARED='gcc -pthread -shared' OPT='-DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall
    -Wstrict-prototypes' ./python -E ./setup.py build;; \
    esac
    running build
    running build_ext
    building '_tkinter' extension
    gcc -pthread -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -fno-strict-aliasing -DWITH_APPINIT=1
    -I/usr/X11R6/include -I. -I/usr/lib/Python-2.3/./Include -I/usr/local/include
    -I/usr/lib/Python-2.3/Include -I/usr/lib/Python-2.3 -c /usr/lib/Python-2.3/Modules/_tkinter.c
    -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/_tkinter.o
    /usr/lib/Python-2.3/Modules/_tkinter.c:96:2: #error "unsupported Tcl configuration"
    /usr/lib/Python-2.3/Modules/_tkinter.c: In function `AsObj':
    /usr/lib/Python-2.3/Modules/_tkinter.c:947: warning: passing arg 1 of `Tcl_NewUnicodeObj' from
    incompatible pointer type
    /usr/lib/Python-2.3/Modules/_tkinter.c: In function `FromObj':
    /usr/lib/Python-2.3/Modules/_tkinter.c:1073: warning: passing arg 1 of `PyUnicodeUCS2_FromUnicode'
    from incompatible pointer type
    running build_scripts
  • Martin v. Löwis at Aug 3, 2003 at 5:45 pm

    "RT Lange" <whiteywidow at yahoo.com> writes:

    /usr/lib/Python-2.3/Modules/_tkinter.c:96:2: #error "unsupported Tcl configuration"
    That is the problem. Quoting from README:

    Red Hat Linux: Red Hat 9 built Python2.2 in UCS-4 mode and hacked
    Tcl to support it. To compile Python2.3 with Tkinter, you will
    need to pass --enable-unicode=ucs4 flag to ./configure.

    In this case "it is so difficult" because Redhat chose to hack Tcl.

    HTH,
    Martin
  • RT Lange at Aug 3, 2003 at 6:40 pm

    On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 19:45:01 +0200, Martin v. L?wis wrote:

    "RT Lange" <whiteywidow at yahoo.com> writes:
    /usr/lib/Python-2.3/Modules/_tkinter.c:96:2: #error "unsupported Tcl configuration"
    That is the problem. Quoting from README:

    Red Hat Linux: Red Hat 9 built Python2.2 in UCS-4 mode and hacked
    Tcl to support it. To compile Python2.3 with Tkinter, you will
    need to pass --enable-unicode=ucs4 flag to ./configure.

    In this case "it is so difficult" because Redhat chose to hack Tcl.

    HTH,
    Martin
    thank you Martin; that did it.

    at least now the problem/solution is documented for people who:
    A) are too lazy/impatient to read the README file (guilty)
    B) think all their problems can be solved by searching groups.google.com (guilty
    again)

    RT

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