I have reached a point where I have the lists almost working but there are
some issues still preventing the systems from functioning in a way that
allows me to confident to launch these lists I wish to create.
Apple's support has been MIA at best so I have given up and decided to seek
other alternatives. Also, the numerous individuals I have spoken with at
Apple were clearly (1) not interested in making any improvements or fixing
the current issues with the version of Mailman that ships with OS X Server
and (2) didn't know any more about it than I do (which is quite embarrassing
considering they are part of the company's business support department).
I can't imagine that there is anything other than some minor set-up issues
that need to be corrected with my system. After all, I am sending and
receiving e-mails and the lists are functional (to an extent anyway) as they
send and receive messages. However, as I stated above, I don't want to
launch the lists only to attract subscribers and then find out in a short
while that Mailman has stopped working because something with my system
wasn't set-up properly.
I also can't imagine that it would be too difficult to install a new version
of Mailman and manage it using its browser-based interface while ignoring
Apple's System Administrator tool for this specific task.
Brad, since you have this much experience with OS X Server would you be
interested in helping me with my problem ? In case you are, please contact
me off-list so that we can discuss it. I believe you should be able to
connect remotely, right ? In case you are not interested, would you
recommend me someone who is knowledgeable on both OS X Server and Mailman ?
I have contacted numerous Apple consultants but couldn't find a single one
who had any experience with Mailman.
Thanks again for your helpful replies.
Best regards,
Joe
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On 3/30/11 5:36 PM, "Brad Knowles" wrote:
breadth of doing that job full-time for a local Apple VAR. I've got all the
PDF versions of all the official Apple documentation on Mac OS X and Mac OS X
Server, as well as PDF versions of the good 3rd party books on the subject.
And I've been a professional Unix system administrator and consultant for over
twenty years.
The guy who used to run lists.apple.com was involved in the development and
support of Mailman long before I came along, and has more experience in the
business than I do.
I don't mean to sound pessimistic or to rain on your parade, but in both
cases, the solution was to blow away the stuff that Apple ships, and to
install the "real deal" code as downloaded from list.org.
The Mailman project is freely available open source (under a GNU license, no
less), and the support we provide is best effort. There is no commercial
version of Mailman that we sell or officially support. Anyone else that
includes Mailman as part of a commercial product or service that they sell,
should include with that a full after-sales support staff.
Note that there isn't going to be a separate "Server" edition of Mac OS X
"Lion".
No one seems to know if this means that all the stuff that the "Server"
edition used to include will now be available to everyone, and that all the
people who developed the "Server" edition of Mac OS X have been transitioned
over to the mainline code development team, or if that means that a lot of
products and services will get thrown out the door as Apple re-focuses
exclusively on the retail/home user market.
But that is certainly something that you should keep in mind as you look
towards solutions in this space.
--
Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>
On Mar 30, 2011, at 6:15 PM, JRC Groups wrote:
Is there anyone on the list who is familiar with both OS X Server and
Mailman to help with this problem ? I am willing to pay a consultation fee
to someone who can connect to my server remotely and help solve this issue.
I've been an Apple consultant, at least part-time. I came within a hairsIs there anyone on the list who is familiar with both OS X Server and
Mailman to help with this problem ? I am willing to pay a consultation fee
to someone who can connect to my server remotely and help solve this issue.
breadth of doing that job full-time for a local Apple VAR. I've got all the
PDF versions of all the official Apple documentation on Mac OS X and Mac OS X
Server, as well as PDF versions of the good 3rd party books on the subject.
And I've been a professional Unix system administrator and consultant for over
twenty years.
The guy who used to run lists.apple.com was involved in the development and
support of Mailman long before I came along, and has more experience in the
business than I do.
I don't mean to sound pessimistic or to rain on your parade, but in both
cases, the solution was to blow away the stuff that Apple ships, and to
install the "real deal" code as downloaded from list.org.
The Mailman project is freely available open source (under a GNU license, no
less), and the support we provide is best effort. There is no commercial
version of Mailman that we sell or officially support. Anyone else that
includes Mailman as part of a commercial product or service that they sell,
should include with that a full after-sales support staff.
Note that there isn't going to be a separate "Server" edition of Mac OS X
"Lion".
No one seems to know if this means that all the stuff that the "Server"
edition used to include will now be available to everyone, and that all the
people who developed the "Server" edition of Mac OS X have been transitioned
over to the mainline code development team, or if that means that a lot of
products and services will get thrown out the door as Apple re-focuses
exclusively on the retail/home user market.
But that is certainly something that you should keep in mind as you look
towards solutions in this space.
--
Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>
