[Mailman-Users] User unknown in virtual mailbox table

You did not receive the list created notice because your Postfix is
doing sender verification and You have not (properly) configured
Mailman/Postfix configuration for automatic generation of list aliases
and virtual alias maps at list creation time, so the virtual_alias_maps
entry for test02-bounces at mydomain.com.my did not exist at the time the
mail was sent.

See <http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html>, in particular
subsections 6.1.1 and 6.1.2.

Also see the first several posts in the thread at
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-December/070671.html>
for a discussion of another aspect of this issue.

2010/12/18 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
i did a bit of reading from those links and did a few modification in

/etc/postfix/main.cf
-----------------------------
local_recipient_maps =
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/etc/mailman/aliases

although i suspect the the reasons could be caused by my openldap settings
(using ldap users)

virtual_alias_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_alias_maps.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_group_maps.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_sender_login_maps.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_catch_all_maps.cf

i can see that in /etc/mailman/aliases that there are those mail lists
aliases but i could not find any virtual_mailman file

If your list mail domain is local in Postfix, all you need is
alias_maps. If it is not local in Postfix, as indicated by the "User
unknown in virtual mailbox table" error, you need to add

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mydomain.com.my']

to Mailman's mm_cfg.py where mydomain.com.my is your actual list mail
domain. Then run Mailman's bin/genaliases and it should create
virtual-mailman and virtual-mailman.db.

2010/12/30 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
i changed my mm_cfg.py setting to:

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mydomain.my']

DEFAULT_URL_HOST = fqdn
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = fqdn

i ran genaliases, restarted postfix & mailman but still having the same
problem where my email is umarzuki at mydomain.my & the mailserver's hostname
is mail-server.mydomain.my

this is what i got from /var/log/maillog

Dec 30 23:03:38 hpj-mail postfix/pipe[4468]: DA5B419C8818:
to=<umarzuki at mydomain.my>, relay=dovecot, delay=0.41,
delays=0.02/0.02/0/0.37, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via dovecot
service)
Dec 30 23:03:38 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[3556]: DA5B419C8818: removed
Dec 30 23:10:08 hpj-mail postfix/postfix-script[5013]: stopping the Postfix
mail system
Dec 30 23:10:08 hpj-mail postfix/master[3551]: terminating on signal 15
Dec 30 23:10:09 hpj-mail postfix/postfix-script[5067]: warning:
/var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf differ
Dec 30 23:10:09 hpj-mail postfix/postfix-script[5070]: warning:
/var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts and /etc/hosts differ
Dec 30 23:10:09 hpj-mail postfix/postfix-script[5074]: starting the Postfix
mail system
Dec 30 23:10:09 hpj-mail postfix/master[5075]: daemon started -- version
0.6.1, configuration /etc/postfix
Dec 30 23:10:38 hpj-mail postfix/pickup[5077]: 2208619C8817: uidH
from=<umarzuki at mydomain.my>
Dec 30 23:10:38 hpj-mail postfix/cleanup[5089]: 2208619C8817: message-id=<
72bd3b85fcef6d005cf3146776d74361 at 127.0.0.1>
Dec 30 23:10:38 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[5078]: 2208619C8817:
from=<umarzuki at mydomain.my>, sizew8, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Dec 30 23:10:38 hpj-mail postfix/pipe[5095]: 2208619C8817:
to=<test02 at mydomain.my>, relay=dovecot, delay=0.65, delays=0.56/0.04/0/0.05,
dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown)
Dec 30 23:10:38 hpj-mail postfix/cleanup[5089]: A321319C8818: message-id=<
20101230151038.A321319C8818 at mail-server.mydomain.my>
Dec 30 23:10:38 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[5078]: A321319C8818: from=<>,
size%54, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Dec 30 23:10:38 hpj-mail postfix/bounce[5097]: 2208619C8817: sender
non-delivery notification: A321319C8818
Dec 30 23:10:38 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[5078]: 2208619C8817: removed
Dec 30 23:10:39 hpj-mail postfix/pipe[5095]: A321319C8818:
to=<umarzuki at mydomain.my>, relay=dovecot, delay=0.35,
delays=0.02/0.02/0/0.3, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via dovecot
service)
Dec 30 23:10:39 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[5078]: A321319C8818: removed

this email server is set to use openldap, not unix users
what i want to achieve is to be able to use mailman mailing list even
though i'm using openldap for user creation

You should have the following in mm_cfg.py


DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'hosts.web.domain'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'hosts.email.domain'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
MTA = 'Postfix'
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['hosts.email.domain']

Then run

/path/to/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url
/path/to/bin/genaliases

If that doesn't fix the problem, post the output from

postconf -n


I don't think you can use the Dovecot LDA for list mail.

See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/ZoCj> for a way to automate
generation of a transport_maps table to use the Postfix local delivery
agent for list mail.

i set in mm_cfg.py like below

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail-server.mydomain.my']

from socket import *
try:
fqdn = getfqdn()
except:
fqdn = 'mm_cfg_has_unknown_host_domains'

DEFAULT_URL_HOST = "mail-server.mydomain.my"
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = "mail-server.mydomain.my"
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, )
MTA = 'Postfix'

and ran

# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url
# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/genaliases

with the same result as before

postconf -n output:

alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/etc/mailman/aliases
allow_min_user = no
biff = no
bounce_queue_lifetime = 1d
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
data_directory = /var/lib/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
delay_warning_time = 0h
disable_vrfy_command = yes
enable_original_recipient = no
home_mailbox = Maildir/
html_directory = no
inet_interfaces = all
inet_protocols = ipv4
local_recipient_maps =
mail_name = iRedMail
mail_owner = postfix
mail_version = 0.6.1
mailbox_command = /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver
mailbox_size_limit = 15728640
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
maximal_backoff_time = 4000s
maximal_queue_lifetime = 1d
minimal_backoff_time = 300s
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost, localhost.localdomain,
localhost.$myhostname
mydomain = mydomain.my
myhostname = mail-server.mydomain.my
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
mynetworks_style = subnet
myorigin = mail-server.mydomain.my
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix
proxy_read_maps = $canonical_maps $lmtp_generic_maps $local_recipient_maps
$mydestination $mynetworks $recipient_bcc_maps $recipient_canonical_maps
$relay_domains $relay_recipient_maps $relocated_maps $sender_bcc_maps
$sender_canonical_maps $smtp_generic_maps $smtpd_sender_login_maps
$transport_maps $virtual_alias_domains $virtual_alias_maps
$virtual_mailbox_domains $virtual_mailbox_maps
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
queue_run_delay = 300s
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.5.9/README_FILES
recipient_bcc_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_recipient_bcc_maps_domain.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_recipient_bcc_maps_user.cf
recipient_delimiter = +
relay_domains = $mydestination, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_relay_domains.cf
relay_recipient_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/
mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.5.9/samples
sender_bcc_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_sender_bcc_maps_domain.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_sender_bcc_maps_user.cf
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
setgid_group = postdrop
smtpd_data_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining
smtpd_enforce_tls = no
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,
check_helo_access pcre:/etc/postfix/helo_access.pcre
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unlisted_recipient, check_policy_service
inet:127.0.0.1:7777, permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated,
reject_unauth_destination, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10031
smtpd_reject_unlisted_recipient = no
smtpd_reject_unlisted_sender = yes
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = no
smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
smtpd_sasl_path = dovecot-auth
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
smtpd_sender_login_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_sender_login_maps.cf
smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_sender_login_mismatch,
permit_sasl_authenticated
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/iRedMail_CA.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/pki/tls/private/iRedMail.key
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 0
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
transport_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_transport_maps_user.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_transport_maps_domain.cf
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
virtual_alias_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_alias_maps.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_group_maps.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_sender_login_maps.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_catch_all_maps.cf
virtual_gid_maps = static:502
virtual_mailbox_base = /var/vmail
virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_virtual_mailbox_domains.cf
virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
virtual_minimum_uid = 502
virtual_transport = dovecot
virtual_uid_maps = static:502

after i read
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+-+Postfix+integration+with+Mailman+generated+transport+or+other+maps

<http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+-+Postfix+integration+with+Mailman+generated+transport+or+other+maps>i
changed & added a few options in mm_cfg.py

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mydomain.my']
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/etc/mailman/virtual_to_transport'

in /etc/mailman

# ls -l /etc/mailman/
total 140
-rw-r----- 1 root mailman 41 Dec 8 18:25 adm.pw
-rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 33942 Jan 3 04:37 aliases
-rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 77824 Jan 3 04:37 aliases.db
-rw-r----- 1 root mailman 41 Dec 8 18:26 creator.pw
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 34 Dec 8 18:12 mm_cfg.py ->
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 14114 Jan 23 2008 sitelist.cfg
-rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 0 Jan 3 04:37 transport-mailman
-rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 12288 Jan 3 04:37 transport-mailman.db
-rw-rw---- 1 root mailman 0 Jan 3 04:37 virtual-mailman
-rw-r----- 1 root mailman 12288 Jan 3 04:32 virtual-mailman.db
-rwxr-x--- 1 root mailman 141 Jan 3 04:26 virtual_to_transport

in /etc/mailman/virtual_to_transport
#!/bin/sh
sed -r -e 's/(^[^#][^ ]+[ ]+).+$/\1local/' $1 \
/usr/sbin/postmap /etc/mailman/transport-mailman

# postconf transport_maps
transport_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_transport_maps_user.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_transport_maps_domain.cf,
hash:/etc/mailman/transport-mailman

did i missed anything?

after a check on /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py

VAR_PREFIX = '/var/lib/mailman'
DATA_DIR = os.path.join(VAR_PREFIX, 'data')

so the /path/to/data must be /var/lib/mailman/data which led me to

1. change main.cf
-----------
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
transport_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_transport_maps_user.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_transport_maps_domain.cf,
hash:/var/lib//mailman/data/transport-mailman

2. move virtual_to_transport to /var/lib/mailman/data

3. virtual_to_transport
#!/bin/sh
sed -r -e 's/(^[^#][^ ]+[ ]+).+$/\1local/' $1 \
/usr/sbin/postmap /var/lib/mailman/data/transport-mailman

4. ran
# postalias /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
# postalias /etc/postfix/aliases
# service postfix reload
# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/genaliases

but virtual-mailman and transport-mailman does not appear in data folder

# ls -l /var/lib/mailman/data/
total 20
-rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 1503 Dec 17 11:28 aliases
-rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 12288 Jan 3 08:40 aliases.db
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 25 Dec 8 18:12 sitelist.cfg ->
/etc/mailman/sitelist.cfg
-rwxr-x--- 1 mailman mailman 159 Jan 3 08:26 virtual_to_transport


any hints or advises?

Regards,

Umarzuki Mochlis
http://debmal.my

This should have ensured that all lists had host_name
"mail-server.mydomain.my" and since this name is in
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS, genaliases should have created aliases
and virtual-mailman for all lists.


Good.

[...]

You probably should have

recipient_delimiter = +

for Mailman's VERP like senders.


[...]

If you are using virtual-mailman, you want to add
"hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman" to virtual_alias_maps. However,
because of your dovecot LDA, you may need to do the transport_maps
thing instead. See below.


[...]

Why did you change this? You must have your list's email domain in
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS. According to what you did above, your
list's email domain is 'mail-server.mydomain.my', not 'mydomain.my'.


This all looks correct.


The above seems correct for the transport_maps method, but you
shouldn't have changed POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS.


And Umarzuki Mochlis added in a follow-up:

Except it clearly isn't because your "ls -l /etc/mailman/" above
clearly shows all the files in that directory. Perhaps there is
something in mm_cfg.py that overrides VAR_PREFIX and DATA_DIR.

You might find the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/KYCB> of interest.


Yes. Undo the 4 steps above. Fix POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS in
mm_cfg.py and run /usr/lib/mailman/bin/genaliases again.

2011/1/3 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
Jan 11 06:01:55 mail-server postfix/pipe[3864]: 3CE0419C8835:
to=<www at mydomain.my>, relay=dovecot, delay!649, delays!633/13/0/2.4,
dsn=4.3.0, statusÞferred (temporary failure)

any more idea?
i don't know where else to look.

I have totally lost track of what you currently have. If you go back to
what you reported at
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2011-January/070890.html>,
the changes at the bottom of that post were almost there. The only
thing wrong was

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mydomain.my']

This should be

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail-server.mydomain.my']

If you go back to the configuration that follows "after i read ... i
changed & added a few options in mm_cfg.py", correct
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS and run bin/genaliases, I think it will
work. If it doesn't, post:

output from postconf -n
output from ls -l /etc/mailman
entire contents of mm_cfg.py

2011/1/11 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
i had done that although i may had messed somewhere else

# postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
allow_min_user = no
biff = no
bounce_queue_lifetime = 1d
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
data_directory = /var/lib/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
delay_warning_time = 0h
disable_vrfy_command = yes
enable_original_recipient = no
home_mailbox = Maildir/
html_directory = no
inet_interfaces = all
inet_protocols = ipv4
local_recipient_maps =
mail_name = iRedMail
mail_owner = postfix
mail_version = 0.6.1
mailbox_command = /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver
mailbox_size_limit = 15728640
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
maximal_backoff_time = 4000s
maximal_queue_lifetime = 1d
minimal_backoff_time = 300s
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost, localhost.localdomain,
localhost.$myhostname
mydomain = mydomain.my
myhostname = mail-server.mydomain.my
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
mynetworks_style = subnet
myorigin = mail-server.mydomain.my
newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix
proxy_read_maps = $canonical_maps $lmtp_generic_maps $local_recipient_maps
$mydestination $mynetworks $recipient_bcc_maps $recipient_canonical_maps
$relay_domains $relay_recipient_maps $relocated_maps $sender_bcc_maps
$sender_canonical_maps $smtp_generic_maps $smtpd_sender_login_maps
$transport_maps $virtual_alias_domains $virtual_alias_maps
$virtual_mailbox_domains $virtual_mailbox_maps
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
queue_run_delay = 300s
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.5.9/README_FILES
recipient_bcc_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_recipient_bcc_maps_domain.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_recipient_bcc_maps_user.cf
recipient_delimiter = +
relay_domains = $mydestination, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_relay_domains.cf
relay_recipient_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/
mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.5.9/samples
sender_bcc_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_sender_bcc_maps_domain.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_sender_bcc_maps_user.cf
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
setgid_group = postdrop
smtpd_data_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining
smtpd_enforce_tls = no
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,
check_helo_access pcre:/etc/postfix/helo_access.pcre
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unlisted_recipient, check_policy_service
inet:127.0.0.1:7777, permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated,
reject_unauth_destination, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10031
smtpd_reject_unlisted_recipient = no
smtpd_reject_unlisted_sender = yes
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = no
smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
smtpd_sasl_path = dovecot-auth
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
smtpd_sender_login_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_sender_login_maps.cf
smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_sender_login_mismatch,
permit_sasl_authenticated
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/iRedMail_CA.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/pki/tls/private/iRedMail.key
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 0
smtpd_tls_security_level = may
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
transport_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_transport_maps_user.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_transport_maps_domain.cf,
hash:/etc/mailman/transport-mailman
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
virtual_alias_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_alias_maps.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_group_maps.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_sender_login_maps.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_catch_all_maps.cf
virtual_gid_maps = static:502
virtual_mailbox_base = /var/vmail
virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_virtual_mailbox_domains.cf
virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
virtual_minimum_uid = 502
virtual_transport = dovecot
virtual_uid_maps = static:502

# ls -l /etc/mailman/
total 220
-rw-r----- 1 root mailman 41 Dec 8 18:25 adm.pw
-rw-rw---- 1 root mailman 33942 Jan 3 16:55 aliases
-rw-r----- 1 root mailman 77824 Jan 3 16:55 aliases.db
-rw-r----- 1 root mailman 41 Dec 8 18:26 creator.pw
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 34 Dec 8 18:12 mm_cfg.py ->
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 14114 Jan 23 2008 sitelist.cfg
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman 24376 Jan 3 16:55 transport-mailman
-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 45056 Jan 3 16:55 transport-mailman.db
-rw-rw---- 1 root mailman 28283 Jan 3 16:55 virtual-mailman
-rwxr-x--- 1 root mailman 141 Jan 3 16:48 virtual_to_transport

# cat /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py
# -*- python -*-

# Copyright (C) 1998,1999,2000,2001,2002 by the Free Software Foundation,
Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
# as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
# of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.

"""This module contains your site-specific settings.
already have an mm_cfg.py, be careful to add in only the new settings you
want. Mailman's installation procedure will never overwrite your mm_cfg.py
file.

The complete set of distributed defaults, with documentation, are in the
file
Defaults.py. In mm_cfg.py, override only those you want to change, after
the

from Defaults import *

line (see below).

Note that these are just default settings; many can be overridden via the
administrator and user interfaces on a per-list or per-user basis.

"""

###############################################
# Here's where we get the distributed defaults.

from Defaults import *
import pwd, grp

##################################################
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.

##############################################################
# Here's where we override shipped defaults with settings #
# suitable for the RPM package. #
MAILMAN_UID = pwd.getpwnam('mailman')[2]
MAILMAN_GID = grp.getgrnam('mailman')[2]

##############################################################
# Set URL and email domain names #
#
# Mailman needs to know about (at least) two fully-qualified domain
# names (fqdn)
#
# 1) the hostname used in your urls (DEFAULT_URL_HOST)
# 2) the hostname used in email addresses for your domain
(DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
#
# For example, if people visit your Mailman system with
# "http://www.dom.ain/mailman" then your url fqdn is "www.dom.ain",
# and if people send mail to your system via "yourlist at dom.ain" then
# your email fqdn is "dom.ain". DEFAULT_URL_HOST controls the former,
# and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST controls the latter. Mailman also needs to
# know how to map from one to the other (this is especially important
# if you're running with virtual domains). You use
# "add_virtualhost(urlfqdn, emailfqdn)" to add new mappings.

# Default to using the FQDN of machine mailman is running on.
# If this is not correct for your installation delete the following 5
# lines that acquire the FQDN and manually edit the hosts instead.
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail-server.mydomain.my']

from socket import *
try:
fqdn = getfqdn()
except:
fqdn = 'mm_cfg_has_unknown_host_domains'

#DEFAULT_URL_HOST = fqdn
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = "mail-server.mydomain.my"
#DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = fqdn
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = "mail-server.mydomain.my"
#VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
# Because we've overriden the virtual hosts above add_virtualhost
# MUST be called after they have been defined.

add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, )


##############################################################
# Put YOUR site-specific configuration below, in mm_cfg.py . #
# See Defaults.py for explanations of the values. #

# Note - if you're looking for something that is imported from mm_cfg, but
you
# didn't find it above, it's probably in Defaults.py.

MTA = 'Postfix'
POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/etc/mailman/virtual_to_transport'

Good.


[...]

So mail-server.mydomain.my is in mydestination and is thus a postfix
local domain, yet it seems to use the dovecot LDA rather than Postfix
local delivery.

[...]

But here, $mydestination is a relay domain so possibly
relay_recipient_maps is overriding transport_maps and that is why list
addresses are relayed to dovecot rather than local


[...]

OK


OK


Good.


[...]

Better to uncomment the above
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
but it doesn't affect this issue.


Good.


[...]

Good.

This all looks good except the Postfix things I noted above. The
hash:/etc/mailman/transport-mailman entry in transport_maps should
specify the 'local' transport for the list addresses, but somehow this
is overriden, possibly by relay_recipient_maps, and the dovecot LDA is
used for these addresses. This is why it doesn't work. Exactly what to
do to fix it is beyond my Postfix expertise. It seems to me that
transport_maps should take priority in defining the transport used for
a matching address.

Have you redefined the 'local' transport in master.cf to use dovecot?
If so, this can't work with Mailman. If so, you could define another
transport, say 'reallylocal' to use postfix local delivery, and modify
the sed command in /etc/mailman/virtual_to_transport to specify that
transport.

2011/1/12 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>

Have you redefined the 'local' transport in master.cf to use dovecot?
did you mean these:

# Use dovecot deliver program as LDA.
dovecot unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f
${sender} -d ${user}@${domain}
procmail unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/procmail -r -t SENDER=${sender}
RECIPIENT=${recipient} DOMAIN=${nexthop} -m USER=${user}
EXTENSION=${extension} /etc/procmailrc
smtp-amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp
-o smtp_data_done_timeout00
-o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
-o disable_dns_lookups=yes
-o max_use

127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd
-o content_filter -o local_recipient_maps -o relay_recipient_maps -o smtpd_restriction_classes -o smtpd_delay_reject=no
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o smtpd_helo_restrictions -o smtpd_sender_restrictions -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o mynetworks_style=host
-o mynetworks7.0.0.0/8
-o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
-o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
-o smtpd_soft_error_limit01
-o smtpd_hard_error_limit00
-o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
-o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
-o
receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings
# Bypass checks for internally generated mail.
pickup fifo n - n 60 1 pickup
-o content_filtersubmission inet n - n - - smtpd
-o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes
-o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
-o
smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
# -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026

smtps inet n - n - - smtpd
-o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
-o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
# -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026
# Use dovecot deliver program as LDA.
dovecot unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f
${sender} -d ${user}@${domain}
procmail unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/procmail -r -t SENDER=${sender}
RECIPIENT=${recipient} DOMAIN=${nexthop} -m USER=${user}
EXTENSION=${extension} /etc/procmailrc
smtp-amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp
-o smtp_data_done_timeout00
-o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
-o disable_dns_lookups=yes
-o max_use

127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd
-o content_filter -o local_recipient_maps -o relay_recipient_maps -o smtpd_restriction_classes -o smtpd_delay_reject=no
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o smtpd_helo_restrictions -o smtpd_sender_restrictions -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o mynetworks_style=host
-o mynetworks7.0.0.0/8
-o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
-o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
-o smtpd_soft_error_limit01
-o smtpd_hard_error_limit00
-o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
-o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
-o
receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings

is there any document that you could point me to achieve what you had
suggested? Many thanks.

I don't see

local unix - n n - - local

in the above. Is that a complete listing of master.cf? If so, add the
above line and reload Postfix and see if that helps.


Try

man 5 master

or see <http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html>.

2011/1/13 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
it is there, i did not paste all of master.cf. So i guess reloading postfix
won't do.

this is all of my master.cf

# cat /etc/postfix/master.cf
#
# Postfix master process configuration file. For details on the format
# of the file, see the master(5) manual page (command: "man 5 master").
#
# Do not forget to execute "postfix reload" after editing this file.
#
# =========================================================================# service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command + args
# (yes) (yes) (yes) (never) (100)
# =========================================================================smtp inet n - - - - smtpd
#submission inet n - n - - smtpd
# -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt
# -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
# -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
# -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING
#smtps inet n - n - - smtpd
# -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
# -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
# -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
# -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING
#628 inet n - n - - qmqpd
#pickup fifo n - n 60 1 pickup
cleanup unix n - n - 0 cleanup
qmgr fifo n - n 300 1 qmgr
#qmgr fifo n - n 300 1 oqmgr
tlsmgr unix - - n 1000? 1 tlsmgr
rewrite unix - - n - - trivial-rewrite
bounce unix - - n - 0 bounce
defer unix - - n - 0 bounce
trace unix - - n - 0 bounce
verify unix - - n - 1 verify
flush unix n - n 1000? 0 flush
proxymap unix - - n - - proxymap
proxywrite unix - - n - 1 proxymap
smtp unix - - n - - smtp
# When relaying mail as backup MX, disable fallback_relay to avoid MX loops
relay unix - - n - - smtp
-o smtp_fallback_relay# -o smtp_helo_timeout=5 -o smtp_connect_timeout=5
showq unix n - n - - showq
error unix - - n - - error
retry unix - - n - - error
discard unix - - n - - discard
local unix - n n - - local
virtual unix - n n - - virtual
lmtp unix - - n - - lmtp
anvil unix - - n - 1 anvil
scache unix - - n - 1 scache
#
# ===================================================================# Interfaces to non-Postfix software. Be sure to examine the manual
# pages of the non-Postfix software to find out what options it wants.
#
# Many of the following services use the Postfix pipe(8) delivery
# agent. See the pipe(8) man page for information about ${recipient}
# and other message envelope options.
# ===================================================================#
# maildrop. See the Postfix MAILDROP_README file for details.
# Also specify in main.cf: maildrop_destination_recipient_limit=1
#
#maildrop unix - n n - - pipe
# flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/local/bin/maildrop -d ${recipient}
#
# ===================================================================#
# The Cyrus deliver program has changed incompatibly, multiple times.
#
#old-cyrus unix - n n - - pipe
# flags=R user=cyrus argv=/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver -e -m ${extension}
${user}
#
# ===================================================================#
# Cyrus 2.1.5 (Amos Gouaux)
# Also specify in main.cf: cyrus_destination_recipient_limit=1
#
#cyrus unix - n n - - pipe
# user=cyrus argv=/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver -e -r ${sender} -m
${extension} ${user}
#
# ===================================================================#
# See the Postfix UUCP_README file for configuration details.
#
#uucp unix - n n - - pipe
# flags=Fqhu user=uucp argv=uux -r -n -z -a$sender - $nexthop!rmail
($recipient)
#
# ===================================================================#
# Other external delivery methods.
#
#ifmail unix - n n - - pipe
# flags=F user=ftn argv=/usr/lib/ifmail/ifmail -r $nexthop ($recipient)
#
#bsmtp unix - n n - - pipe
# flags=Fq. user=bsmtp argv=/usr/local/sbin/bsmtp -f $sender $nexthop
$recipient
#
#scalemail-backend unix - n n - 2 pipe
# flags=R user=scalemail argv=/usr/lib/scalemail/bin/scalemail-store
# ${nexthop} ${user} ${extension}
#
#mailman unix - n n - - pipe
# flags=FR user=list argv=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py
# ${nexthop} ${user}
# Bypass checks for internally generated mail.
#pickup fifo n - n 60 1 pickup
-o content_filtersubmission inet n - n - - smtpd
-o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes
-o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
-o
smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
# -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026

smtps inet n - - - - smtpd
-o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
-o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
# -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026
# Use dovecot deliver program as LDA.
dovecot unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f
${sender} -d ${user}@${domain}
procmail unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/procmail -r -t SENDER=${sender}
RECIPIENT=${recipient} DOMAIN=${nexthop} -m USER=${user}
EXTENSION=${extension} /etc/procmailrc
smtp-amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp
-o smtp_data_done_timeout00
-o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
-o disable_dns_lookups=yes
-o max_use

127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd
-o content_filter -o local_recipient_maps -o relay_recipient_maps -o smtpd_restriction_classes -o smtpd_delay_reject=no
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o smtpd_helo_restrictions -o smtpd_sender_restrictions -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o mynetworks_style=host
-o mynetworks7.0.0.0/8
-o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
-o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
-o smtpd_soft_error_limit01
-o smtpd_hard_error_limit00
-o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
-o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
-o
receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings
# Bypass checks for internally generated mail.
pickup fifo n - n 60 1 pickup
-o content_filtersubmission inet n - n - - smtpd
-o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes
-o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
-o
smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
# -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026

smtps inet n - n - - smtpd
-o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
-o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
# -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026
# Use dovecot deliver program as LDA.
dovecot unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f
${sender} -d ${user}@${domain}
procmail unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/procmail -r -t SENDER=${sender}
RECIPIENT=${recipient} DOMAIN=${nexthop} -m USER=${user}
EXTENSION=${extension} /etc/procmailrc
smtp-amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp
-o smtp_data_done_timeout00
-o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
-o disable_dns_lookups=yes
-o max_use

127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd
-o content_filter -o local_recipient_maps -o relay_recipient_maps -o smtpd_restriction_classes -o smtpd_delay_reject=no
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o smtpd_helo_restrictions -o smtpd_sender_restrictions -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o mynetworks_style=host
-o mynetworks7.0.0.0/8
-o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
-o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
-o smtpd_soft_error_limit01
-o smtpd_hard_error_limit00
-o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
-o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
-o
receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings

Right, at least assuming you did reload Postfix after editing main.cf.

You have exceeded my knowledge of Postfix. As far as I can see, you
have the generated /etc/mailman/transport_mailman referenced in
Postfix main.cf transport_maps =, and this should be specifying the
'local' transport for list mail, but the maillog shows 'relay=dovecot'
(if it still does - have you verified this for the latest
configuration?). If by chance, the current error in the maillog does
not specify relay=dovecot, you can post that error as it may help.

But, if this mail is being handled by the dovecot transport instead of
the local transport, I don't know why. You might try the postfix-users
list <http://www.postfix.org/lists.html> or the dovecot list
<http://dovecot.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dovecot>. Perhaps someone
there can help.

2011/1/13 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
yes i did but with the same result

/var/log/maillog
==========Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/pipe[4565]: B8C2C19C89C2:
to=<test02 at mydomain.my>, relay=dovecot, delay=1.7, delays=1.6/0.04/0/0.07,
dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown)
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/cleanup[4557]: 1B22B19C89C9: message-id=<
20110113121900.1B22B19C89C9 at mail-server.mydomain.my>
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[4562]: 1B22B19C89C9: from=<>,
size%38, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/bounce[4567]: B8C2C19C89C2: sender
non-delivery notification: 1B22B19C89C9
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[4562]: B8C2C19C89C2: removed
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/pipe[4565]: 1B22B19C89C9:
to=<umarzuki at mydomain.my>, relay=dovecot, delay=0.85,
delays=0.02/0.02/0/0.81, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via dovecot
service)
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[4562]: 1B22B19C89C9: removed


all those configs were generated by iredmail script. I did not configure it
myself. The author of iredmail apparently had stopped supporting iredmail
with mailman

OK, one more thing.

Is there an entry

test02 at mydomain.my local

in /etc/mailman/transport-mailman and does
/etc/mailman/transport-mailman.db have a timestamp equal to or more
recent than that of /etc/mailman/transport-mailman.

If I go back to your prior posts, I see that DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST =
"mail-server.mydomain.my". Thus I expect that the entries in
/etc/mailman/transport-mailman are all @mail-server.mydomain.my. This
would explain the problem. If this is what you want, you need to mail to
test02 at mail-server.mydomain.my. If you actually want list addresses like
test02 at mail-server.mydomain.my, you need to make the following changes
in mm_cfg.py

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mydomain.my']

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = "mydomain.my"

and run bin/genaliases.

That sentence should say "If you actually want list addresses like
test02 at mydomain.my, you need to make the following changes in mm_cfg.py"

2011/1/13 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
i don't know what i did wrong but now there's no content in the
transport-mailman although the time is recent upon running bin/genaliases

After changing DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, you need to run

bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url

(see <http://wiki.list.org/x/mIA9>) and then

bin/genaliases again.

2011/1/17 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
i finally got it working with dovecot lda by adding
hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman at the end of virtual_alias_maps like so

# postconf virtual_alias_maps
virtual_alias_maps = proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_alias_maps.cf,
proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_virtual_group_maps.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/
ldap_sender_login_maps.cf, proxy:ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap_catch_all_maps.cf,
hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman

generate virtual-mailman.db

# cd /etc/mailman
# postmap virtual-mailman

but how do i automate the generation of virtual-mailman.db incase a new
mailman list were to be created?

If you really need the list entries in both virtual_alias_maps and
transport_maps, you could simply add

/usr/sbin/postmap /etc/mailman/virtual-mailman

to the end of your virtual_to_transport file.

However, it seems to me unlikely that you actually need both since they
both should accomplish the same thing in different ways.