hi
im starting with mailman - it looks like a good solution for me and my group
however, i have it installed, subscribed myself to the list and my friend
but i dont get emails from the system
not a notification of subscription mail and not test mail i sent to the main
mailman email address i configured

please advice !!!

barnea


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1. 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather than sender?
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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org>
To: Christopher Adams <adamsca at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:13:20 +0900
Subject: [Mailman-Users] 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather
than sender?
Christopher Adams writes:
I just figured out that a sender can only get an acknowledgment with
'ack' checked if the list is sending as the sender as opposed to list
name. Is there anyway that a sender can get an acknowledgment even if
the list is set up this way?
I believe that the list can be set to acknowledge receipt to the
poster.

If you want the poster to get acks from each recipient individually,
it can be done, but AFAIK (a) you have to modify the Mailman code and
(b) bounce processing becomes the responsibility of the poster,
because "sender" is where many (most) software will send error
notices, regardless of other settings.




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From: Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
To: Christopher Adams <adamsca at gmail.com>, mailman-users at python.org
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:57:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather
thansender?
Christopher Adams wrote:
I just figured out that a sender can only get an acknowledgment with
'ack' checked if the list is sending as the sender as opposed to list
name. Is there anyway that a sender can get an acknowledgment even if
the list is set up this way?

By "sending as ... list name" I'm assuming you mean the list is
anonymous, i.e., General Options -> anonymous_list = Yes.

The issue here is the CookHeaders.py handler saves the original From:
or other sender for use by the Acknowledge.py handler in sending the
'ack', but for an anonymous lists, the Cleanse.py handler which
removes all the sender information comes ahead of CookHeaders in the
pipeline.

I actually broke this inadvertently in Mailman 2.1.13, and now I'll
have to figure out what to do about that. The issue is that for
anonymous lists, Cleanse removes the From:, Reply-To: and Sender:
headers from the post. This causes the get_sender() method used by
CookHeaders to get the original sender to fall back to the Unix from
(envelope sender). The issue is that in 2.1.13, I "improved"
anonymizing by munging the Unix from in anonymized posts to the list
address, so now CookHeaders fets the list address as the sender when
saving the original sender, and since this is generally not a list
member with 'ack' true, no ack is sent.

I suppose the easiest fix is to have Cleanse rather than CookHeaders
save the original sender. One could also reorder the pipeline to put
Cleanse after CookHeaders, but I'm not sure at this point if there
would be unintended consequences from that.

I'll follow up with a patch when I work this out.

--
Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan



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  • Mark Sapiro at Sep 30, 2010 at 1:42 am

    On 9/29/2010 2:30 PM, kobi barnea wrote:
    im starting with mailman - it looks like a good solution for me and my group
    however, i have it installed, subscribed myself to the list and my friend
    but i dont get emails from the system
    not a notification of subscription mail and not test mail i sent to the main
    mailman email address i configured

    please advice !!!

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