[Mailman-Users] Mailman, Postfix and Google Apps

Cameron Smith wrote:
The problem I am having is mail from mailman is not making it to
user at example.com.

Is this a mailman issue or a postfix issue?

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Julio Calvo wrote:

Is the aliases file correctly setup?
When you create a list, mailman shows a list of aliases
you have to include in your aliases file and then
you have to run newaliases to put it in effect.

Take a watch to you log file.


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Enviados: Lunes, 28 de Junio 2010 13:03:02
Asunto: [Mailman-Users] Mailman, Postfix and Google Apps

I am stuck trying to help a friend configure their setup.

Their main domain has email handled by gmail so the mx for
example.compoints to the google mail servers.

They have a dedicated server that has postfix configured to handle mail for
mailinglists.example.com.

Mailman is set to use mailinglists.example.com

The problem I am having is mail from mailman is not making it to
user at example.com.

Is this a mailman issue or a postfix issue?
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Cameron Smith wrote:
On an existing mailman list is there a way to see what those aliases should
be?

I am stuck trying to help a friend configure their setup.

Their main domain has email handled by gmail so the mx for
example.compoints to the google mail servers.

They have a dedicated server that has postfix configured to handle mail for
mailinglists.example.com.

Mailman is set to use mailinglists.example.com

The problem I am having is mail from mailman is not making it to
user at example.com.

Is this a mailman issue or a postfix issue?
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Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
Not quite. The message is there, and is listed in the thread, but you'd
never know it because gmail doesn't consider it a new message.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Ivan Van Laningham wrote:

This is what Google says, but my tests show it is not true. Are you
sure you're just not seeing the original message in the Sent folder?

My tests show that if an incoming message to gmail has the same
message-id as a message already in your Sent folder, the incoming
message is just discarded.

For example, if the list adds a footer to your post, do you ever see
the footer in any message you can find in Gmail. I don't.

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Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
Yup. I'm looking at the expanded version of this thread, and the message
before your reply and after Terri Oda's is mine. It appears as "Ivan Van
Laningham to mailman-users", with my name in yellow (arbitrary color: yours
is red, Terri's is purple, Cameron's is green).

Now, gmail may, behind the scenes, insert a link to the sent folder, but
from a user's perspective it looks exactly like any other message in the
thread, except that to the left of my name is a very small (i.e., 8x8
pixels) light grey round icon with a white x in it. I don't want to push it
in case it tells gmail "Delete the entire thread this is associated with."

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Ivan Van Laningham wrote:

And when you look at one of the (now two) posts from you in that
thread, do you see the mailman-users list footer that you see if you
look at Terri's post? These would be there if the message you are
seeing came from the list, but I suspect they are not and the messages
you see are actually those in your Sent folder.

This is not important for many purposes, but it does mean that you
can't actually tell if you received a copy of your post from the list.

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