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Hi,

A new list in my Mailman installation refuses to let postings
from a subscriber and list administrator through (not sure if
this applies to all posters -- the list is new), and bounces
the postings instead. Below is the error message --
unfortunately in Norwegian -- maybe someone recognizes the
structure of the problem or has any suggestions or tips?

(The other, old lists at the server work just fine.)

Thomas Gramstad


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Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:30:35 +0100
From: mailman-bounces at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no
To: stoppdld-owner at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no
Subject: Returmelding som ikke ble fanget opp
Parts/Attachments:
1 Shown ~9 lines Text
2 Shown 1.9 KB Message, "Velkommen!"
2.1 Shown 43 lines Text
----------------------------------------

Den vedlagte meldingen ble mottatt som en returmelding, men enten er
formatet ukjent, eller s? kunne ingen medlemsadresse plukkes ut av
meldingen. Denne epostlisten er konfigurert slik at alle ukjente
returmeldinger sendes til listeadministratoren(e).

For mer informasjon, se:
http://mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no/mailman/admin/stoppdld/bounce




[ Part 2: "Included Message" ]

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  • Mark Sapiro at Nov 1, 2009 at 4:35 am

    Thomas Gramstad wrote:
    A new list in my Mailman installation refuses to let postings
    from a subscriber and list administrator through (not sure if
    this applies to all posters -- the list is new), and bounces
    the postings instead. Below is the error message --
    unfortunately in Norwegian -- maybe someone recognizes the
    structure of the problem or has any suggestions or tips? [...]
    From: mailman-bounces at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no
    To: stoppdld-owner at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no
    Subject: Returmelding som ikke ble fanget opp

    The message is an uncaught bounce notification. This says either the
    list posts are being sent to
    stoppdld-bounces at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no (or possibly
    stoppdld-admin at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no) instead of to
    stoppdld at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no or something is wrong with the
    aliases or other MTA configuration so that mail to
    stoppdld at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no is being piped to the wrapper
    with arguments "bounces stoppdld" instead of "post stoppdld".

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Thomas Gramstad at Nov 1, 2009 at 4:52 am

    On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:

    Thomas Gramstad wrote:
    A new list in my Mailman installation refuses to let postings
    from a subscriber and list administrator through (not sure if
    this applies to all posters -- the list is new), and bounces
    the postings instead. Below is the error message --
    unfortunately in Norwegian -- maybe someone recognizes the
    structure of the problem or has any suggestions or tips? [...]
    From: mailman-bounces at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no
    To: stoppdld-owner at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no
    Subject: Returmelding som ikke ble fanget opp

    The message is an uncaught bounce notification. This says either the
    list posts are being sent to
    stoppdld-bounces at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no (or possibly
    stoppdld-admin at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no) instead of to
    stoppdld at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no or something is wrong with the
    aliases or other MTA configuration so that mail to
    stoppdld at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no is being piped to the wrapper
    with arguments "bounces stoppdld" instead of "post stoppdld".
    The name of this list is
    stoppdld-admin at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no, in other words, "admin"
    is a part of the list name. Is that a problem? Is "-admin" a reserved
    suffix?

    (Also, there is another separate list named
    stoppdld at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no )

    Thomas Gramstad
  • Stephen J. Turnbull at Nov 1, 2009 at 5:43 am
    Thomas Gramstad writes:
    The message is an uncaught bounce notification. This says either the
    list posts are being sent to
    stoppdld-bounces at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no (or possibly
    stoppdld-admin at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no) instead of to
    The name of this list is
    stoppdld-admin at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no, in other words,
    "admin" is a part of the list name. Is that a problem? Is "-admin"
    a reserved suffix?
    Yes. It's a backward-compatibility alias for -bounces IIRC.

    I think all you need to do is find the alias that was created for the
    stoppdld list, remove it, and rebuild your aliases.

    I'm on a list which like yours want both LIST and LIST-admin lists,
    and has had that configuration without trouble for some years. If you
    can't resolve the problem I can ask the admins how they have managed
    this.
  • Mark Sapiro at Nov 1, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
    Thomas Gramstad writes:
    The message is an uncaught bounce notification. This says either the
    list posts are being sent to
    stoppdld-bounces at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no (or possibly
    stoppdld-admin at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no) instead of to
    The name of this list is
    stoppdld-admin at mailman.kunnskapsallmenning.no, in other words,
    "admin" is a part of the list name. Is that a problem? Is "-admin"
    a reserved suffix?
    Yes. It's a backward-compatibility alias for -bounces IIRC.

    I think all you need to do is find the alias that was created for the
    stoppdld list, remove it, and rebuild your aliases.

    Yes. As Stephen says, assuming your MTA uses aliases, if you just
    remove the one unnecessary stoppdld-admin alias from the stoppdld list
    aliases, you should be fine.

    Alternatively, depending on the MTA, just reordering the aliases may
    help. I.e. move whichever list's aliases now come first to a point in
    the file after the others.

    If you use an MTA like Exim or other process that delivers mail
    programatically without aliases, just remove the -admin suffix from
    its list. It's only for backwards compatibility with 2.0 for bounce
    processing and isn't needed.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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