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Hi all,
I have a problem with my lists that I cant understand.
I'm running mailman version 2.1.11 on a debian lenny xen-server.

I have 12 lists on a server, of which one is a umbrella list for the
other ones.
But since I want all members of all lists to be able to post to the
other lists, I've added the listnames of the other lists as
"@listname" in accept_these_nonmembers.

Some days ago I was stupid and added all listnames to
accept_these_nonmembers for all lists, which caused an error:
"Oct 01 18:16:26 2009 (1413) *_these_nonmembers in listname references
own list"

This I corrected, but I still can't get mail to pass through. mail.log
shows:

Oct 4 09:58:01 burk postfix/local[8620]: 8AF5A89F9C6: to=<test at friaskolan.se
, relay=local, delay=0.45, delays=0.16/0.05/0/0.24, dsn=2.0.0,
status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post
test)

there it ends.

The output of mailman/error.log is:

Oct 04 08:44:58 2009 (5310) SHUNTING:
1254638696.3051779+93732af84a7f7b0bb7b3d050ab6168748b9d6715
Oct 04 09:58:05 2009 (8604) Uncaught runner exception: need more than
1 value to unpack
Oct 04 09:58:05 2009 (8604) Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 120, in
_oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 191, in
_onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130,
in _dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153,
in _dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 100,
in process
recips = do_include(mlist, msg, msgdata, recips)
File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 203,
in do_include
listlhs, hostname = listname.split('@')
ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack

Oct 04 09:58:05 2009 (8604) SHUNTING:
1254643081.945178+4d955651efa6062a6af41dbbb9c9d39af812ff96

And an output of sudo ls -lR /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/
/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/:
total 4
drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Sep 30 09:19 archive
drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Oct 2 13:10 bounces
drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Oct 3 09:45 commands
drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Oct 4 09:58 in
drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Sep 8 23:43 news
drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Oct 4 08:59 out
drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Sep 8 23:43 retry
drwxrws--- 2 list list 4096 Oct 4 09:58 shunt
drwxrws--- 2 root list 6 Oct 4 08:59 virgin

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/archive:
total 0

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/bounces:
total 0

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/commands:
total 0

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/in:
total 0

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/news:
total 0

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out:
total 0

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/retry:
total 0

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/shunt:
total 2792
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 830102 Oct 4 00:53
1254302102.7639999+86ea59de3840234df107fdb5d8897ac5d1a2645b.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 169071 Oct 4 00:53
1254308639.74+c4c87cf0ea000a0bf446788a36be04220bfb7e63.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 139193 Oct 4 00:53
1254342341.352+be82feb79d81bdf22f2bec33bea6fce6e3e1f303.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 7335 Oct 4 00:53
1254343329.312+13df2b6dac840a9d43db5dfab9e8170c732b0467.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 3230 Oct 4 00:53
1254344956.868+3bb0ab80ce7615328ee09a3181a5888a90418ba8.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 473549 Oct 4 00:53
1254396140.704+8e5b656148d80bec4d6a7c50f0151b132ddb4137.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 22928 Oct 4 00:53
1254402346.7639999+4251040696ef8d1d904a45ad58629d082e3af73f.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 3443 Oct 4 00:53
1254420722.664+45ec161fc97bb2acb688916e329bd18edab19b98.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 5002 Oct 4 00:53
1254429835.7920001+c3e3d4025c4a52ea4d8299258eb58048f5b9c5a1.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 6708 Oct 4 00:53
1254431276.164+52ed03ca8345ba0d89cca215c45f7a4dceea3194.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 36396 Oct 4 00:53
1254473620.632+9856cbe53a9b0206cffc47831567f377d0097a26.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 1075194 Oct 4 00:53
1254475131.152+decdb50e33ae90f6cae7bc6c9fc7865339daa24f.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 5392 Oct 4 00:53
1254483690.9560001+70e2e170e6f57a1377111ac0c0a7912525b78b3f.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 5392 Oct 4 00:53
1254483690.9879999+024ecbbce6c61f03292aba7bf52d3d290670147d.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 3163 Oct 4 00:53
1254499823.684+e2c790a2358ef9acc62fe4fad7347d7cf2ef2c1f.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 3206 Oct 4 00:53
1254499880.1159999+a9d00a053f8749fd08547e55a8a9ef8cf7e71e07.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 4295 Oct 4 00:53
1254564768.6559999+2f0b923e610688c78be837ca6d8f52dcfa6853ad.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 3230 Oct 4 00:53
1254592000.4820199+15531823458090911fef946b66d5822ae8541897.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 1727 Oct 4 00:53
1254608293.9251781+21192bf0e32f48e31840b9bede3f60eeeea172b4.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 2458 Oct 4 08:21
1254609564.0331781+cc90d61e41783565fa3546614f91cfffebaec359.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 3272 Oct 4 00:53
1254609657.597178+6b2a8d197c52c7bbf1a9895681aa52adcad8b295.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 2454 Oct 4 08:21
1254610930.5020199+572e39e7aa857c7ab043716f73109e30401ea100.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 1776 Oct 4 01:06
1254611161.0451779+dc75121c9b7852ddb15075addbeeb5b60b551b33.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 1726 Oct 4 01:11
1254611468.301178+a0c423d836690f223ffa7d92b600843140bba688.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 1726 Oct 4 08:44
1254638696.3051779+93732af84a7f7b0bb7b3d050ab6168748b9d6715.pck
-rw-rw---- 1 list list 1773 Oct 4 09:58
1254643081.945178+4d955651efa6062a6af41dbbb9c9d39af812ff96.pck

/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/virgin:
total 0

Can someone tell me how to fix this? Im guessing old mail with
references to their own listnames in accept_these_nonmembers is still
blocking the mailque, but I can't see them in qfiles, so I dont know
whats wrong...


Svante

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  • Svante Tidholm at Oct 4, 2009 at 2:23 pm
    Hi all,
    I have a problem with my lists that I cant understand.
    I'm running mailman version 2.1.11 on a debian lenny xen-server.

    I have 12 lists on a server, of which one is a umbrella list for the
    other ones.
    But since I want all members of all lists to be able to post to the
    other lists, I've added the listnames of the other lists as
    "@listname" in accept_these_nonmembers.

    Some days ago I was stupid and added ALL listnames (with an @ before)
    to accept_these_nonmembers for all lists, which caused an error:
    "Oct 01 18:16:26 2009 (1413) *_these_nonmembers in listname references
    own list"

    This I have corrected, but I still can't get mail to pass through.
    mail.log shows:

    Oct 4 09:58:01 burk postfix/local[8620]: 8AF5A89F9C6: to=<test at friaskolan.se
    , relay=local, delay=0.45, delays=0.16/0.05/0/0.24, dsn=2.0.0,
    status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post
    test)

    there it ends.

    The output of mailman/error.log is:

    Oct 04 08:44:58 2009 (5310) SHUNTING:
    1254638696.3051779+93732af84a7f7b0bb7b3d050ab6168748b9d6715
    Oct 04 09:58:05 2009 (8604) Uncaught runner exception: need more than
    1 value to unpack
    Oct 04 09:58:05 2009 (8604) Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 120, in _oneloop
    self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 191, in _onefile
    keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130,
    in _dispose
    more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153,
    in _dopipeline
    sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 100, in
    process
    recips = do_include(mlist, msg, msgdata, recips)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 203, in
    do_include
    listlhs, hostname = listname.split('@')
    ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack

    Oct 04 09:58:05 2009 (8604) SHUNTING:
    1254643081.945178+4d955651efa6062a6af41dbbb9c9d39af812ff96

    And an output of sudo ls -lR /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/
    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/:
    total 4
    drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Sep 30 09:19 archive
    drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Oct 2 13:10 bounces
    drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Oct 3 09:45 commands
    drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Oct 4 09:58 in
    drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Sep 8 23:43 news
    drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Oct 4 08:59 out
    drwxrws--- 2 list list 6 Sep 8 23:43 retry
    drwxrws--- 2 list list 4096 Oct 4 09:58 shunt
    drwxrws--- 2 root list 6 Oct 4 08:59 virgin

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/archive:
    total 0

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/bounces:
    total 0

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/commands:
    total 0

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/in:
    total 0

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/news:
    total 0

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out:
    total 0

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/retry:
    total 0

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/shunt:
    total 2792
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 830102 Oct 4 00:53
    1254302102.7639999+86ea59de3840234df107fdb5d8897ac5d1a2645b.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 169071 Oct 4 00:53
    1254308639.74+c4c87cf0ea000a0bf446788a36be04220bfb7e63.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 139193 Oct 4 00:53
    1254342341.352+be82feb79d81bdf22f2bec33bea6fce6e3e1f303.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 7335 Oct 4 00:53
    1254343329.312+13df2b6dac840a9d43db5dfab9e8170c732b0467.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 3230 Oct 4 00:53
    1254344956.868+3bb0ab80ce7615328ee09a3181a5888a90418ba8.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 473549 Oct 4 00:53
    1254396140.704+8e5b656148d80bec4d6a7c50f0151b132ddb4137.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 22928 Oct 4 00:53
    1254402346.7639999+4251040696ef8d1d904a45ad58629d082e3af73f.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 3443 Oct 4 00:53
    1254420722.664+45ec161fc97bb2acb688916e329bd18edab19b98.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 5002 Oct 4 00:53
    1254429835.7920001+c3e3d4025c4a52ea4d8299258eb58048f5b9c5a1.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 6708 Oct 4 00:53
    1254431276.164+52ed03ca8345ba0d89cca215c45f7a4dceea3194.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 36396 Oct 4 00:53
    1254473620.632+9856cbe53a9b0206cffc47831567f377d0097a26.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1075194 Oct 4 00:53
    1254475131.152+decdb50e33ae90f6cae7bc6c9fc7865339daa24f.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 5392 Oct 4 00:53
    1254483690.9560001+70e2e170e6f57a1377111ac0c0a7912525b78b3f.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 5392 Oct 4 00:53
    1254483690.9879999+024ecbbce6c61f03292aba7bf52d3d290670147d.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 3163 Oct 4 00:53
    1254499823.684+e2c790a2358ef9acc62fe4fad7347d7cf2ef2c1f.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 3206 Oct 4 00:53
    1254499880.1159999+a9d00a053f8749fd08547e55a8a9ef8cf7e71e07.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 4295 Oct 4 00:53
    1254564768.6559999+2f0b923e610688c78be837ca6d8f52dcfa6853ad.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 3230 Oct 4 00:53
    1254592000.4820199+15531823458090911fef946b66d5822ae8541897.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1727 Oct 4 00:53
    1254608293.9251781+21192bf0e32f48e31840b9bede3f60eeeea172b4.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 2458 Oct 4 08:21
    1254609564.0331781+cc90d61e41783565fa3546614f91cfffebaec359.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 3272 Oct 4 00:53
    1254609657.597178+6b2a8d197c52c7bbf1a9895681aa52adcad8b295.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 2454 Oct 4 08:21
    1254610930.5020199+572e39e7aa857c7ab043716f73109e30401ea100.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1776 Oct 4 01:06
    1254611161.0451779+dc75121c9b7852ddb15075addbeeb5b60b551b33.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1726 Oct 4 01:11
    1254611468.301178+a0c423d836690f223ffa7d92b600843140bba688.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1726 Oct 4 08:44
    1254638696.3051779+93732af84a7f7b0bb7b3d050ab6168748b9d6715.pck
    -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1773 Oct 4 09:58
    1254643081.945178+4d955651efa6062a6af41dbbb9c9d39af812ff96.pck

    /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/virgin:
    total 0

    I tried to create a new list with just me in it, and it worked fine,
    which makes me even more baffled.

    Can someone tell me how to fix this? Im guessing old mail with
    references to their own listnames in accept_these_nonmembers is still
    blocking the mailque, but I can't see them in qfiles, so I dont know
    whats wrong...

    Svante
  • Mark Sapiro at Oct 5, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Svante Tidholm wrote:
    I have a problem with my lists that I cant understand.
    I'm running mailman version 2.1.11 on a debian lenny xen-server.

    I have 12 lists on a server, of which one is a umbrella list for the
    other ones.
    But since I want all members of all lists to be able to post to the
    other lists, I've added the listnames of the other lists as
    "@listname" in accept_these_nonmembers.

    Some days ago I was stupid and added all listnames to
    accept_these_nonmembers for all lists, which caused an error:
    "Oct 01 18:16:26 2009 (1413) *_these_nonmembers in listname references
    own list"

    This I corrected, but I still can't get mail to pass through. mail.log
    shows:

    Oct 4 09:58:01 burk postfix/local[8620]: 8AF5A89F9C6: to=<test at friaskolan.se
    , relay=local, delay=0.45, delays=0.16/0.05/0/0.24, dsn=2.0.0,
    status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post
    test)

    there it ends.

    The output of mailman/error.log is:

    Oct 04 08:44:58 2009 (5310) SHUNTING:
    1254638696.3051779+93732af84a7f7b0bb7b3d050ab6168748b9d6715
    Oct 04 09:58:05 2009 (8604) Uncaught runner exception: need more than
    1 value to unpack
    Oct 04 09:58:05 2009 (8604) Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 120, in
    _oneloop
    self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 191, in
    _onefile
    keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130,
    in _dispose
    more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153,
    in _dopipeline
    sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 100,
    in process
    recips = do_include(mlist, msg, msgdata, recips)
    File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CalcRecips.py", line 203,
    in do_include
    listlhs, hostname = listname.split('@')
    ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack

    The problem appears to be a list with a value in regular_include_lists
    that is maybe a bare listname. the values in regular_include_lists and
    regular_exclude_lists are list posting addresses, e.g.
    otherlist at example.com, not plain list names.
    From your config_list diff:
    -regular_include_lists = []
    +regular_include_lists = ['']

    This is the problem. It looks empty in the web gui, but it contains a
    null line. Select the entire text box and clear it.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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