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I cannot find out how I can figure the following default settings:

Membership Management:
- Mass Subscription:
- Send welcome messages to new subscribees? (Yes)
- Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list owner? (Yes)

- Mass Removal:
- Send unsubscription acknowledgement to the user? (Yes)
- Send notifications to the list owner? (No)


Whatever I set up (e.g. in "General Options"), I cannot set this
configuration. Is it possible anyhow?

Thanks in advance for your help. :-)

--UlfDunkel

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  • Mark Sapiro at Jun 7, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Ulf Dunkel wrote:
    I cannot find out how I can figure the following default settings:

    Membership Management:
    - Mass Subscription:
    - Send welcome messages to new subscribees? (Yes)

    Defaults to the list setting General Otions -> Notifications ->
    send_welcome_msg

    - Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list owner? (Yes)

    Defaults to the list setting General Otions -> Notifications ->
    admin_notify_mchanges

    - Mass Removal:
    - Send unsubscription acknowledgement to the user? (Yes)

    Defaults to No

    - Send notifications to the list owner? (No)

    Defaults to the list setting General Otions -> Notifications ->
    admin_notify_mchanges

    Whatever I set up (e.g. in "General Options"), I cannot set this
    configuration. Is it possible anyhow?

    It is only possible by modifying the code in the mass_subscribe() and
    mass_remove() definitions in Mailman/Cgi/admin.py. Without
    modification, the user notification for Mass Removal always defaults
    to No and the owner notifications for Mass Subscription and Mass
    Removal default to the same setting.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Terri Oda at Jun 7, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Mark Sapiro wrote:
    Ulf Dunkel wrote:
    Whatever I set up (e.g. in "General Options"), I cannot set this
    configuration. Is it possible anyhow?
    It is only possible by modifying the code in the mass_subscribe() and
    mass_remove() definitions in Mailman/Cgi/admin.py. Without
    modification, the user notification for Mass Removal always defaults
    to No and the owner notifications for Mass Subscription and Mass
    Removal default to the same setting.
    If you're just looking for a personal fix, it would be fairly easy to
    make a bookmarklet or greasemonkey script which set these defaults in
    your browser.

    Terri
  • Ulf Dunkel at Jun 8, 2009 at 6:10 am
    Hi Mark.
    - Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list owner? (Yes)
    Defaults to the list setting General Otions -> Notifications ->
    admin_notify_mchanges
    - Send notifications to the list owner? (No)
    Defaults to the list setting General Otions -> Notifications ->
    admin_notify_mchanges
    It is only possible by modifying the code in the mass_subscribe() and
    mass_remove() definitions in Mailman/Cgi/admin.py. Without
    modification, the user notification for Mass Removal always defaults
    to No and the owner notifications for Mass Subscription and Mass
    Removal default to the same setting.
    So wouldn't it be a good idea to introduce separate settings for both
    welcome and goodbye events, e.g.
    - admin_notify_subscribes
    - admin_notify_unsubscribes

    Should I write a feature request for this?

    --UlfDunkel
  • Mark Sapiro at Jun 9, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Ulf Dunkel wrote:
    So wouldn't it be a good idea to introduce separate settings for both
    welcome and goodbye events, e.g.
    - admin_notify_subscribes
    - admin_notify_unsubscribes

    Mailman already has too many settings and options. I don't think it is
    a good idea to add more, unless there is a clear demand.

    I think (no evidence - just a guess) that as many people would think
    this should be one option as would think it should be two.

    Should I write a feature request for this?

    You are of course welcome to submit an RFE, but unless there is a
    large, positive response, you probably won't see it implemented.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Chris Nulk at Jun 9, 2009 at 10:47 pm
    I am not asking for nor suggesting any changes but it might be easier for Ulf (if he is doing the mods) to use a bit mask.

    Have the admin notify option use the following bits for differentiating between the subscribes and unsubscribes:

    0x00: no notifications
    0x01: notify subscribes
    0x10: notify unsubscribes
    0x11: notify both

    In the code instead of looking for a yes/no/true/false, look for the appropriate bit.

    Just my take (FWIW),
    chris
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:23 AM >>>
    Ulf Dunkel wrote:
    So wouldn't it be a good idea to introduce separate settings for both
    welcome and goodbye events, e.g.
    - admin_notify_subscribes
    - admin_notify_unsubscribes

    Mailman already has too many settings and options. I don't think it is
    a good idea to add more, unless there is a clear demand.

    I think (no evidence - just a guess) that as many people would think
    this should be one option as would think it should be two.

    Should I write a feature request for this?

    You are of course welcome to submit an RFE, but unless there is a
    large, positive response, you probably won't see it implemented.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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