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I recently migrated some mailing lists from a Fedora 7 system to a new
system running Fedora 10. Ever since the migration I've received a ton
of bounce messages into my personal email due to bounced mailing-list
reminder messages. The bounce messages look pretty normal to me (an
example is available at <http://www.ihtfp.org/mailman-bounce.txt>) so I
don't understand why it's winding up in my personal inbox.

The sendmail log looks okay, up until it sends the message to me.
Notice that the message does get into the 'mailman bounces mailman'
input queue, but I don't see anything at that time in the mailman
bounces log file.

Is this a misconfigured mailman? Misconfigured sendmail? A bug?
I searched the FAQ but didn't see anything like this.

Thanks for any help,

-derek

[root at code ~]# grep n419JLKo020547 /var/log/maillog
May 1 05:19:21 code sendmail[20547]: n419JLKo020547: from=<mailman-bounces at gnucash.org>, size98, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<mailman.2567.1241168457.3337.mailman at gnucash.org>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
May 1 05:19:21 code sendmail[20547]: n419JLKo020547: Milter add: header: X-Scanned-By: milter-sender/0.55.730 (code.gnucash.org [204.107.200.65]); Fri, 01 May 2009 05:19:21 -0400
May 1 05:19:23 code sendmail[20552]: n419JLKo020547: to=<norby3 at netscape.net>, delay�:00:02, xdelay�:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri1598, relay=mailin-01.mx.aol.com. [205.188.156.248], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown
May 1 05:19:24 code sendmail[20552]: n419JLKo020547: n419JOKo020552: DSN: User unknown


[root at code ~]# grep n419JOKo020552 /var/log/maillog
May 1 05:19:24 code sendmail[20552]: n419JLKo020547: n419JOKo020552: DSN: User unknown
May 1 05:19:24 code sendmail[20552]: n419JOKo020552: to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman", ctladdr=(8/0), delay�:00:00, xdelay�:00:00, mailer=prog, pri2920, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
May 1 05:22:28 code sendmail[23558]: n419MSMH023558: from=<mailman-loop at gnucash.org>, size655, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200905010919.n419JOKo020552 at code.gnucash.org>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]


[root at code ~]# grep n419MSMH023558 /var/log/maillog
May 1 05:22:28 code sendmail[23558]: n419MSMH023558: from=<mailman-loop at gnucash.org>, size655, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200905010919.n419JOKo020552 at code.gnucash.org>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
May 1 05:22:28 code sendmail[23558]: n419MSMH023558: Milter add: header: X-Scanned-By: milter-sender/0.55.730 (code.gnucash.org [204.107.200.65]); Fri, 01 May 2009 05:22:28 -0400
May 1 05:22:29 code sendmail[23563]: n419MSMH023558: to=<warlord at mit.edu>, delay�:00:01, xdelay�:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri3655, relay=w92-130-barracuda-1.mit.edu. [18.7.21.220], dsn=4.0.0, statÞferred: 421 too many connections
May 1 07:35:32 code sendmail[28794]: n419MSMH023558: to=<warlord at mit.edu>, delay:13:04, xdelay�:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri!3655, relay=m24-004-barracuda-3.mit.edu. [18.7.7.114], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as 366DA1A100B8)

--
Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/ PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH
warlord at MIT.EDU PGP key available

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  • Stephen J. Turnbull at May 2, 2009 at 4:31 am
    Derek Atkins writes:
    The sendmail log looks okay, up until it sends the message to me.
    Notice that the message does get into the 'mailman bounces mailman'
    input queue, but I don't see anything at that time in the mailman
    bounces log file.
    I would guess that "warlord" (or "mailman-owner") is the target of the
    mailman-loop address. So there's a loop somewhere, probably in the
    "mailman-bounces" address. If you've set your list owners to the
    mailman list or something like that, this might happen, I dunno.

    In our Mailman installation, the mailman-loop address is directed to a
    file rather than a person. Maybe Mailman changed policy in this
    regard at some point, and the new generated config directs to the
    owner rather than a file? Or perhaps Fedora, if you're using the
    Fedora configured Mailman.
  • Mark Sapiro at May 4, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Derek Atkins wrote:
    I recently migrated some mailing lists from a Fedora 7 system to a new
    system running Fedora 10. Ever since the migration I've received a ton
    of bounce messages into my personal email due to bounced mailing-list
    reminder messages. The bounce messages look pretty normal to me (an
    example is available at <http://www.ihtfp.org/mailman-bounce.txt>) so I
    don't understand why it's winding up in my personal inbox.

    See the post at
    <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-February/064911.html>
    for why this is happening and what to do about it.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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