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I am receiving an apache forbidden page when I try to access my archives
after moving my lists to a new server. My old server was 2.1.8 ? new server
is running 2.1.9 and using the same domain name.

Everything is working correctly except the archives...

/etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf has appropriate piper alias
--- cut here ---
Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
<Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public>
Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
--- end cut here ---

- Permissions on public archives directory is drwxrwsr-x with symlinks to
private lists
- Permissions on private archives directory is drwxrws--x with directories
below as drwxrwsr-x
- Files within the private folder are world readable with -rw-rw-r--
- I ran the bin/arch script (/usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch listname
archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox)
- I ran the withlist script to verify permissions are correct (./withlist -l
-r fix_url listname)

Don't know what else to try. Haven't found anything in the FAQ or the
Mailman archives. I have tried reading the documentation labyrinth but that
hasn't helped so far - I'm thinking I need a new direction, a new path to
follow - been looking at this too long...

Looking for some help at this point.

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  • Mark Sapiro at Apr 13, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Lars Olson wrote:
    I am receiving an apache forbidden page when I try to access my archives
    after moving my lists to a new server. My old server was 2.1.8 ? new server
    is running 2.1.9 and using the same domain name.

    Everything is working correctly except the archives...

    /etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf has appropriate piper alias
    --- cut here ---
    Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
    <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public>
    Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks
    AllowOverride None
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
    </Directory>
    --- end cut here ---

    - Permissions on public archives directory is drwxrwsr-x with symlinks to
    private lists
    - Permissions on private archives directory is drwxrws--x with directories

    That's good.

    below as drwxrwsr-x
    - Files within the private folder are world readable with -rw-rw-r--
    - I ran the bin/arch script (/usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch listname
    archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox)
    - I ran the withlist script to verify permissions are correct (./withlist -l
    -r fix_url listname)

    It's bin/check_perms that checks permissions. fix_url changes web and
    email host names for the list which chouldn't be necessary in your
    situation.

    Don't know what else to try. Haven't found anything in the FAQ or the
    Mailman archives. I have tried reading the documentation labyrinth but that
    hasn't helped so far - I'm thinking I need a new direction, a new path to
    follow - been looking at this too long...

    Looking for some help at this point.

    What is the error message in Apache's error_log?

    Is this a SELinux or other security manager issue?

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Lars Olson at Apr 15, 2009 at 2:10 am
    I am receiving an apache forbidden page when I try to access my archives
    after moving my lists to a new server. My old server was 2.1.8 - new server
    is running 2.1.9 and using the same domain name.

    Everything is working correctly except the archives...

    /etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf has appropriate piper alias
    --- cut here ---
    Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/
    <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public>
    Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks
    AllowOverride None
    Order allow,deny
    Allow from all
    </Directory>
    --- end cut here ---

    - Permissions on public archives directory is drwxrwsr-x with symlinks to
    private lists
    - Permissions on private archives directory is drwxrws--x with directories
    below as drwxrwsr-x
    - Files within the private folder are world readable with -rw-rw-r--
    - I ran the bin/arch script (/usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch listname
    archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox)
    - I ran the withlist script to verify permissions are correct (./withlist -l
    -r fix_url listname)

    Don't know what else to try. Haven't found anything in the FAQ or the
    Mailman archives. I have tried reading the documentation labyrinth but that
    hasn't helped so far - I'm thinking I need a new direction, a new path to
    follow - been looking at this too long...

    Looking for some help at this point.

    This email message has been scanned for viruses before being sent to you and
    found to be
    Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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  • Mark Sapiro at Apr 15, 2009 at 2:33 am

    Lars Olson wrote:
    I am receiving an apache forbidden page when I try to access my archives
    after moving my lists to a new server. My old server was 2.1.8 - new server
    is running 2.1.9 and using the same domain name.

    You posted the same issue to this list 4 days ago. My reply is at
    <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-April/065745.html>.

    Provide us with some new information and we may be able to help further.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Lars Olson at Apr 15, 2009 at 9:03 am
    Sorry about the dup post - I never did receive the original post or replies
    so I assumed it was lost...

    My error_log below
    [Tue Apr 14 23:22:14 2009] [error] [client 66.249.73.209] (13)Permission
    denied: access to /pipermail/whpnews/2006-February/author.html denied

    Looks like you nailed it with your comment about SELinux. I just ran
    setenforce 0 and tried again and was able to view the archive. Now the
    question is how do I fix the SELinux problem?


    -----Original Message-----

    Lars Olson wrote:
    I am receiving an apache forbidden page when I try to access my archives
    after moving my lists to a new server. My old server was 2.1.8 - new server
    is running 2.1.9 and using the same domain name.

    You posted the same issue to this list 4 days ago. My reply is at
    <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-April/065745.html>.

    Provide us with some new information and we may be able to help further.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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  • Mark Sapiro at Apr 15, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Lars Olson wrote:
    Looks like you nailed it with your comment about SELinux. I just ran
    setenforce 0 and tried again and was able to view the archive. Now the
    question is how do I fix the SELinux problem?

    Sorry, that's a SELinux question, not a Mailman question. I know
    essentially zero about SELinux.

    Are you running a RedHat Mailman package? If so, it has some changes[1]
    to make it more FHS compliant and SELinux friendly so you should be
    able to make it work. If this isn't the RedHat package, I don't have a
    clue.

    [1]
    <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2004-October/017343.html>

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    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Lars Olson at Apr 15, 2009 at 1:59 pm
    This is a Fedora RPM so I will try the Fedora forums.

    Thanks Mark.



    Lars Olson wrote:
    Looks like you nailed it with your comment about SELinux. I just ran
    setenforce 0 and tried again and was able to view the archive. Now the
    question is how do I fix the SELinux problem?
    Sorry, that's a SELinux question, not a Mailman question. I know
    essentially zero about SELinux.

    Are you running a RedHat Mailman package? If so, it has some changes[1]
    to make it more FHS compliant and SELinux friendly so you should be
    able to make it work. If this isn't the RedHat package, I don't have a
    clue.

    [1]
    <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2004-October/017343.htm
    l>

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