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Hi,

I'm trying to move the lists and archives of an existing Mailman 2.1.8
installation to a new server with a newly installed 2.1.11 version. On
the old server, everything was kept under /opt/mailman-2.1.8, whereas on
the new one (due to disk space issues) the archives and lists should be
kept separately under /var/adm. Both of this is on HP-UX btw.

This is my configure-line for the new install:

/configure --prefix=/opt/mailman-2.1.11/ --with-mail-gid=mailman
--with-var-prefix=/var/adm/mailman

The install worked fine as far as I can see. I then moved over the
directories "archives", "lists" and "data" from the old server to the
new one and fixed the symbolic links within archives to point at the new
path.

If I now run /opt/mailman-2.1.11/bin/list_lists it finds all the
previously existing lists. check_perms also runs fine.

Problem: both http://newserver.url/mailman/listinfo and
http://newserver.url/mailman/admin say that there are no lists
installed. What can I do to see these lists in the web interface? Also,
shouldn't I be prompted for the old admin password at some point(where
is that kept)?

If there's any FAQ I've missed please be so kind as to point me to it,
I've spent several hours scouring the online docs as well as the list
archives but am still missing a solution.

Cheers,

Marc

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  • Adam McGreggor at Dec 8, 2008 at 2:28 am

    On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:03:15PM +0100, Marc Beyer wrote:
    Hi,

    I'm trying to move the lists and archives of an existing Mailman 2.1.8
    installation to a new server with a newly installed 2.1.11 version. On [...]
    If I now run /opt/mailman-2.1.11/bin/list_lists it finds all the
    previously existing lists. check_perms also runs fine.

    Problem: both http://newserver.url/mailman/listinfo and
    http://newserver.url/mailman/admin say that there are no lists
    installed. What can I do to see these lists in the web interface? Also,
    Have you
    (a) created the site-list on $NEW_INSTALL?
    (b) fixed-up the new hostname for the lists?
    (c) fixed-up the new URIs for the lists?

    -- those are the things I'd look at first.

    for (b), you might find bin/config_list setting host_name useful; for (c)
    you may find bin/withlist and fix_url useful.
    shouldn't I be prompted for the old admin password at some point(where
    is that kept)?
    When you visit a list's admin pages, yes. As for the admin password, data/adm.pw --
    re-settable via bin/mmsitepass

    --
    ``The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
    persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
    depends on the unreasonable man.'' (George Bernard Shaw)
  • Mark Sapiro at Dec 8, 2008 at 4:19 am

    Marc Beyer wrote:
    Problem: both http://newserver.url/mailman/listinfo and
    http://newserver.url/mailman/admin say that there are no lists
    installed. What can I do to see these lists in the web interface? Also,
    shouldn't I be prompted for the old admin password at some point(where
    is that kept)?

    If there's any FAQ I've missed please be so kind as to point me to it,
    I've spent several hours scouring the online docs as well as the list
    archives but am still missing a solution.

    See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/lYA9> for why the lists don't
    appear on the overview pages. (You should be able to get to the list
    at, e.g., http://newserver.url/mailman/listinfo/LISTNAME even though
    it doesn't appear.)

    What old admin password? The site password and list creator password
    are set in the new installation via bin/mmsitepass or you can port the
    old ones by moving data/adm.pw and/or data/creator.pw. Individual list
    admin and moderator passwords are in the respective
    lists/LISTNAME/config.pck files and moved with the lists.

    Note that since it appears the web host has changed, you will have many
    'more information about this list' URLs in the archives that point to
    the old host. The easy way to fix that, assuming all the
    archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox files are good, is to
    just run

    bin/arch --wipe

    on all the lists.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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