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Mailman 2.1.10.

We have a list that is sending the moderator daily a message about pending
requests. When the moderator clicks on the admin link, Mailman shows no pending
requests. However, there is a pending.pck file in the directory of the list on
the Mailman server. Here are the contents:

[----- start pickle file -----]
<----- start object 1 ----->
{ '15540c1c834bfb99ef20a9621a0437c182b4d5ef': ('H', 31),
'1e79ecd565fa5e2349bdeec5f41506560f8a7104': ( 'E',

'corporate_reporting_finance',

'anthony.smith at pfes.nt.gov.au'),
'37ec39382577ef6007a990a63c9eadd48c8b2fb5': ( 'E',

'corporate_reporting_finance',

'di.trimble at powerwater.com.au'),
'46dd36aa9b2098c04413916363b9f70153420587': ( 'E',

'corporate_reporting_finance',

'karen.ross at powerwater.com.au'),
'4e4faa7381d3b9dd50943813c8b39f2c15a0f888': ('H', 26),
'6f13dd1779f3ba010efdeb561f203dd59e1015ed': ('H', 25),
'720da6f23ef531826a3ded71d7f074e3af5aedb3': ('H', 21),
'b7801bf76362de4aa4ac6d2db9f1cfab6e8c8b51': ( 'E',

'corporate_reporting_finance',

'michaela.martins at batchelor.edu.au'),
'ca468272da6d506f17983c18576835a1117d8354': ( 'E',

'corporate_reporting_finance',

'beverly.whitter at batchelor.edu.au'),
'eff52942711894f6c3210e00d62357d0eb42a1d8': ( 'E',

'corporate_reporting_finance',

'oddette.dacosta at pfes.nt.gov.au'),
'evictions': { '15540c1c834bfb99ef20a9621a0437c182b4d5ef':
1223691481.6416359,
'1e79ecd565fa5e2349bdeec5f41506560f8a7104':
1223606953.9437859,
'37ec39382577ef6007a990a63c9eadd48c8b2fb5':
1223606953.5659289,
'46dd36aa9b2098c04413916363b9f70153420587':
1223606954.17202,
'4e4faa7381d3b9dd50943813c8b39f2c15a0f888':
1223680324.9617939,
'6f13dd1779f3ba010efdeb561f203dd59e1015ed':
1223677576.544651,
'720da6f23ef531826a3ded71d7f074e3af5aedb3':
1223606023.4145031,
'b7801bf76362de4aa4ac6d2db9f1cfab6e8c8b51':
1223606050.2751639,
'ca468272da6d506f17983c18576835a1117d8354':
1223606952.789958,
'eff52942711894f6c3210e00d62357d0eb42a1d8':
1223606953.7517281},
'version': 2}
[----- end pickle file -----]

The date on the file is October 8. Why is there nothing showing on the web
interface? How can this be cleaned up/fixed?

Regards,

Alan Rubin
Technician Unix
DCS Midrange Services
Phone: +61 (08) 8999 6814
Fax: +61 (08) 8999 7493
e-Mail: alan.rubin at nt.gov.au

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  • Mark Sapiro at Oct 9, 2008 at 12:45 am

    Alan.Rubin at nt.gov.au wrote:
    Mailman 2.1.10.

    We have a list that is sending the moderator daily a message about pending
    requests. When the moderator clicks on the admin link, Mailman shows no pending
    requests. However, there is a pending.pck file in the directory of the list on
    the Mailman server. Here are the contents:

    [----- start pickle file -----]
    <----- start object 1 ----->
    { '15540c1c834bfb99ef20a9621a0437c182b4d5ef': ('H', 31),
    '1e79ecd565fa5e2349bdeec5f41506560f8a7104': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'anthony.smith at pfes.nt.gov.au'),
    '37ec39382577ef6007a990a63c9eadd48c8b2fb5': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'di.trimble at powerwater.com.au'),
    '46dd36aa9b2098c04413916363b9f70153420587': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'karen.ross at powerwater.com.au'),
    '4e4faa7381d3b9dd50943813c8b39f2c15a0f888': ('H', 26),
    '6f13dd1779f3ba010efdeb561f203dd59e1015ed': ('H', 25),
    '720da6f23ef531826a3ded71d7f074e3af5aedb3': ('H', 21),
    'b7801bf76362de4aa4ac6d2db9f1cfab6e8c8b51': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'michaela.martins at batchelor.edu.au'),
    'ca468272da6d506f17983c18576835a1117d8354': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'beverly.whitter at batchelor.edu.au'),
    'eff52942711894f6c3210e00d62357d0eb42a1d8': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'oddette.dacosta at pfes.nt.gov.au'),
    'evictions': { '15540c1c834bfb99ef20a9621a0437c182b4d5ef':
    1223691481.6416359,
    '1e79ecd565fa5e2349bdeec5f41506560f8a7104':
    1223606953.9437859,
    '37ec39382577ef6007a990a63c9eadd48c8b2fb5':
    1223606953.5659289,
    '46dd36aa9b2098c04413916363b9f70153420587':
    1223606954.17202,
    '4e4faa7381d3b9dd50943813c8b39f2c15a0f888':
    1223680324.9617939,
    '6f13dd1779f3ba010efdeb561f203dd59e1015ed':
    1223677576.544651,
    '720da6f23ef531826a3ded71d7f074e3af5aedb3':
    1223606023.4145031,
    'b7801bf76362de4aa4ac6d2db9f1cfab6e8c8b51':
    1223606050.2751639,
    'ca468272da6d506f17983c18576835a1117d8354':
    1223606952.789958,
    'eff52942711894f6c3210e00d62357d0eb42a1d8':
    1223606953.7517281},
    'version': 2}
    [----- end pickle file -----]

    The date on the file is October 8. Why is there nothing showing on the web
    interface? How can this be cleaned up/fixed?

    The pending.pck has nothing to do with the "n moderator requests" email
    or the requests in the admindb interface. The file that contains those
    is request.pck.

    pending.pck is used by 'confirm' to process confirmations. The 'H'
    entries in that file are held messages, but they may have been dealt
    with otherwise. The 'E' entries are delivery disabled by bounce
    re-enables. the evictions dictionary is expiration times. See
    http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/list_pending> for a script that will
    show you all that 'interpreted'.

    If you are getting daily "n moderator requests" emails and there is
    nothing in the admindb interface, the emails are coming from some
    other test, backup, whatever installation that is still running a
    daily cron/checkdbs.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Alan Rubin at Oct 9, 2008 at 1:37 am
    Mark,

    Cron runs checkdbs every morning at 8AM, but I am an owner of a few of these
    lists and I don't get moderator pending notices every day if there is nothing to
    do. Is this an option to set in the individual list configuration?

    # At 8AM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests.
    # They are less likely to ignore these reminders if they're mailed
    # early in the morning, but of course, this is local time... ;)
    0 8 * * * /opt/csw/bin/python -S /export/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs

    Here's the notice they are receiving. It says 1 request waiting but nothing is
    listed when they go to the web page.

    The Corporate_Reporting_Finance at lists.nt.gov.au mailing list has 1
    request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

    http://lists.nt.gov.au/mailman/admindb/corporate_reporting_finance

    Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of
    pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.


    Regards,

    Alan Rubin
    Technician Unix
    DCS Midrange Services
    Phone: +61 (08) 8999 6814
    Fax: +61 (08) 8999 7493
    e-Mail: alan.rubin at nt.gov.au



    Mark Sapiro
    <mark at msapiro.net>
    Sent by: To
    mailman-users-bounc Alan.Rubin at nt.gov.au,
    es+alan.rubin=nt.go mailman-users at python.org
    v.au at python.org cc

    Subject
    09/10/2008 10:15 AM Re: [Mailman-Users] pending request
    problem










    Alan.Rubin at nt.gov.au wrote:
    Mailman 2.1.10.

    We have a list that is sending the moderator daily a message about pending
    requests. When the moderator clicks on the admin link, Mailman shows no pending
    requests. However, there is a pending.pck file in the directory of the list on
    the Mailman server. Here are the contents:

    [----- start pickle file -----]
    <----- start object 1 ----->
    { '15540c1c834bfb99ef20a9621a0437c182b4d5ef': ('H', 31),
    '1e79ecd565fa5e2349bdeec5f41506560f8a7104': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'anthony.smith at pfes.nt.gov.au'),
    '37ec39382577ef6007a990a63c9eadd48c8b2fb5': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'di.trimble at powerwater.com.au'),
    '46dd36aa9b2098c04413916363b9f70153420587': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'karen.ross at powerwater.com.au'),
    '4e4faa7381d3b9dd50943813c8b39f2c15a0f888': ('H', 26),
    '6f13dd1779f3ba010efdeb561f203dd59e1015ed': ('H', 25),
    '720da6f23ef531826a3ded71d7f074e3af5aedb3': ('H', 21),
    'b7801bf76362de4aa4ac6d2db9f1cfab6e8c8b51': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'michaela.martins at batchelor.edu.au'),
    'ca468272da6d506f17983c18576835a1117d8354': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'beverly.whitter at batchelor.edu.au'),
    'eff52942711894f6c3210e00d62357d0eb42a1d8': ( 'E',

    'corporate_reporting_finance',

    'oddette.dacosta at pfes.nt.gov.au'),
    'evictions': { '15540c1c834bfb99ef20a9621a0437c182b4d5ef':
    1223691481.6416359,
    '1e79ecd565fa5e2349bdeec5f41506560f8a7104':
    1223606953.9437859,
    '37ec39382577ef6007a990a63c9eadd48c8b2fb5':
    1223606953.5659289,
    '46dd36aa9b2098c04413916363b9f70153420587':
    1223606954.17202,
    '4e4faa7381d3b9dd50943813c8b39f2c15a0f888':
    1223680324.9617939,
    '6f13dd1779f3ba010efdeb561f203dd59e1015ed':
    1223677576.544651,
    '720da6f23ef531826a3ded71d7f074e3af5aedb3':
    1223606023.4145031,
    'b7801bf76362de4aa4ac6d2db9f1cfab6e8c8b51':
    1223606050.2751639,
    'ca468272da6d506f17983c18576835a1117d8354':
    1223606952.789958,
    'eff52942711894f6c3210e00d62357d0eb42a1d8':
    1223606953.7517281},
    'version': 2}
    [----- end pickle file -----]

    The date on the file is October 8. Why is there nothing showing on the web
    interface? How can this be cleaned up/fixed?

    The pending.pck has nothing to do with the "n moderator requests" email
    or the requests in the admindb interface. The file that contains those
    is request.pck.

    pending.pck is used by 'confirm' to process confirmations. The 'H'
    entries in that file are held messages, but they may have been dealt
    with otherwise. The 'E' entries are delivery disabled by bounce
    re-enables. the evictions dictionary is expiration times. See
    http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/list_pending> for a script that will
    show you all that 'interpreted'.

    If you are getting daily "n moderator requests" emails and there is
    nothing in the admindb interface, the emails are coming from some
    other test, backup, whatever installation that is still running a
    daily cron/checkdbs.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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  • Mark Sapiro at Oct 9, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Alan.Rubin at nt.gov.au wrote:
    Cron runs checkdbs every morning at 8AM, but I am an owner of a few of these
    lists and I don't get moderator pending notices every day if there is nothing to
    do. Is this an option to set in the individual list configuration?

    # At 8AM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests.
    # They are less likely to ignore these reminders if they're mailed
    # early in the morning, but of course, this is local time... ;)
    0 8 * * * /opt/csw/bin/python -S /export/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs

    I am suggesting that these notices are coming from a different
    cron/checkdbs, possibly even on a different machine being run by a
    different crontab. (There is no list config setting.)

    Here's the notice they are receiving. It says 1 request waiting but nothing is
    listed when they go to the web page.

    The Corporate_Reporting_Finance at lists.nt.gov.au mailing list has 1
    request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

    http://lists.nt.gov.au/mailman/admindb/corporate_reporting_finance

    Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of
    pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.

    Look at the chain of Received: headers in this message to find what
    machine it originates from. Then find the mailman installation on that
    machine that it's coming from. E.g.

    find / -name corporate_reporting_finance

    I am sure that you will find this notice is not being sent from
    /export/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs on the
    'lists.nt.gov.au'(150.191.80.112) box.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Alan Rubin at Oct 9, 2008 at 10:16 pm
    Mark,

    I don't see how that is likely. I'd be very surprised if there was another
    mailman server in this environment.


    corporate_reporting
    _finance-bounces at li
    sts.nt.gov.au To
    Sent by: corporate_reporting_finance-owner at list
    mailman-bounces at lis s.nt.gov.au
    ts.nt.gov.au cc

    Subject
    09/10/2008 08:00 AM 1 Corporate_Reporting_Finance
    moderator request(s) waiting









    I'm not sure if the above will paste properly into this email, but the simple
    headers indicate the sender as being @ lists.nt.gov.au.

    Regards,

    Alan Rubin
    Technician Unix
    DCS Midrange Services
    Phone: +61 (08) 8999 6814
    Fax: +61 (08) 8999 7493
    e-Mail: alan.rubin at nt.gov.au



    Mark Sapiro
    <mark at msapiro.net>
    Sent by: To
    mailman-users-bounc Alan.Rubin at nt.gov.au,
    es+alan.rubin=nt.go mailman-users at python.org
    v.au at python.org cc

    Subject
    10/10/2008 01:11 AM Re: [Mailman-Users] pending request
    problem










    Alan.Rubin at nt.gov.au wrote:
    Cron runs checkdbs every morning at 8AM, but I am an owner of a few of these
    lists and I don't get moderator pending notices every day if there is nothing to
    do. Is this an option to set in the individual list configuration?

    # At 8AM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests.
    # They are less likely to ignore these reminders if they're mailed
    # early in the morning, but of course, this is local time... ;)
    0 8 * * * /opt/csw/bin/python -S /export/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs

    I am suggesting that these notices are coming from a different
    cron/checkdbs, possibly even on a different machine being run by a
    different crontab. (There is no list config setting.)

    Here's the notice they are receiving. It says 1 request waiting but nothing is
    listed when they go to the web page.

    The Corporate_Reporting_Finance at lists.nt.gov.au mailing list has 1
    request(s) waiting for your consideration at:

    http://lists.nt.gov.au/mailman/admindb/corporate_reporting_finance

    Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of
    pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.

    Look at the chain of Received: headers in this message to find what
    machine it originates from. Then find the mailman installation on that
    machine that it's coming from. E.g.

    find / -name corporate_reporting_finance

    I am sure that you will find this notice is not being sent from
    /export/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs on the
    'lists.nt.gov.au'(150.191.80.112) box.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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  • Mark Sapiro at Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Alan.Rubin at nt.gov.au wrote:
    I don't see how that is likely. I'd be very surprised if there was another
    mailman server in this environment.

    Likely or not, that's always what turns out to be the reason for this
    problem.



    <snip>
    I'm not sure if the above will paste properly into this email, but the simple
    headers indicate the sender as being @ lists.nt.gov.au.
    You have to look at the full headers. I hav no idea how to do that in
    Lotus Notes, but you need to see the chain of Received: header which
    show the progress of the mail.

    For example, the Received: headers from the message to which I'm
    replying are:

    Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14])
    by sbh16.songbird.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23703690092
    for <mark at msapiro.net>; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:17:58 -0700 (PDT)
    Received: from bag.python.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
    by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170381E40AF
    for <mark at msapiro.net>; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:17:10 +0200 (CEST)
    X-Original-To: mailman-users at python.org
    Delivered-To: mailman-users at bag.python.org
    Received: from bag.python.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
    by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B391E400C
    for <mailman-users at python.org>; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:16:53 +0200 (CEST)
    X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003, No
    Received: from localhost (HELO bag.python.org) (127.0.0.1)
    by bag.python.org with SMTP; 10 Oct 2008 00:16:52 +0200
    X-policyd-weight: NOT_IN_ZEN_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
    NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gov. -
    helo: .emdch-mx22.nt.gov. - helo-domain: .gov.)
    FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2 <client 3.26.75.17>
    <helo=emdch-mx22.nt.gov.au> <from=alan.rubin at nt.gov.au>
    <to=mailman-users at python.org>, rate: -8.5
    Received: from emdch-mx22.nt.gov.au (emdch-mx22.nt.gov.au
    [203.26.75.17])
    by bag.python.org (Postfix) with SMTP
    for <mailman-users at python.org>; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:16:43 +0200 (CEST)
    Received: from emdch-sh3.nt.gov.au (emdch-sh13.nt.gov.au [155.205.6.43])
    by emdch-mx22.nt.gov.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6868FEFC1
    for <mailman-users at python.org>; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:46:41 +0930 (CST)
    Received: from EMDCH-SMTP.nt.gov.au (emdch-smtp.nt.gov.au [155.205.6.8])
    by emdch-sh3.nt.gov.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B787532
    for <mailman-users at python.org>; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:46:41 +0930 (CST)


    These say that the message originated at emdch-smtp.nt.gov.au
    [155.205.6.8] and passed through emdch-sh13.nt.gov.au [155.205.6.43]
    and bag.python.org (where it went through a few processes) on its way
    to my server at sbh16.songbird.com.

    We want to know where your "n requests" message originated.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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