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All,

In spite of previous assurances to the contrary, my web host
(webserve.ca) has just told me that they have a maximum 500 per hour
mail generation rate, and that there's "nothing they can do" to change
that (which I presume is rubbish). I have questioned them about
alternatives, and they have become resolutely non-responsive. I host
several email lists on my server, one of which is a legitimate farmers'
market email list that is almost at 500.

Is there a way to get GNU mailman to batch or parcel mailouts to comply
with this policy? I ran into this problem before, and it seemed that
Mailman simply gave up on the whole mailout, archived the mail, and
moved on. GNU Mailman in the webserve.ca plan that I have is managed by
Cpanel.

Thanks,

- Henrik

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  • Brian Carpenter at Oct 18, 2007 at 1:28 pm
    Hi Henrik:

    My suggestion is to move your lists to another provider. We do not impose
    hourly limits on our mailman clients. You can find out more about our
    mailman service at http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html.

    Kind regards,
    Brian Carpenter
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    EMWD - Executive Officer

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    Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web host has hourly mailout limits

    All,

    In spite of previous assurances to the contrary, my web host
    (webserve.ca) has just told me that they have a maximum 500 per hour
    mail generation rate, and that there's "nothing they can do" to change
    that (which I presume is rubbish). I have questioned them about
    alternatives, and they have become resolutely non-responsive. I host
    several email lists on my server, one of which is a legitimate farmers'
    market email list that is almost at 500.

    Is there a way to get GNU mailman to batch or parcel mailouts to comply
    with this policy? I ran into this problem before, and it seemed that
    Mailman simply gave up on the whole mailout, archived the mail, and
    moved on. GNU Mailman in the webserve.ca plan that I have is managed by
    Cpanel.

    Thanks,

    - Henrik

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  • Brian Luria at Oct 18, 2007 at 1:59 pm
    Henrik,

    Ran into this problem recently with my own host. Mark and I have discussed.
    (bluehost.com)
    Assuming you're in the same situation I am in - which is likely.
    My domain is hosted on a shared server - in other words the company has a
    server with something like 300 to 400 domains hosted on it. On that server,
    there is a single mailman installation and we all share that installation.
    For this reason, sometimes I'll send a message and it doesn't go out for 15
    minutes or longer. This is presumably because it is sitting in que waiting
    for anyone else on the servers messages to go out.

    So, many of the code specific recommendations made on this forum don't apply
    to us because we dont truly have access to the mailman install.

    As far as the 500 limit, I am in a similar situation - fortunately my lists
    arent quite as large as yours. The limit is NOT a mailman limitation, but,
    something ... i.e. a 'policy' from the hosting company - perhaps a SPAM
    control measure, etc. Could it be increased? probably - I would try asking
    for higher level tech support and ultimately an admin.

    There are other hosting recommendations:
    <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.017.htp>
    <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-August/058158.html>

    However many of these are a bit more expensive that a shared solution such
    as I use ($100/yr vs. $600/yr), but, you do get what you pay for.
    On 10/18/07, Henrik wrote:

    All,

    In spite of previous assurances to the contrary, my web host
    (webserve.ca) has just told me that they have a maximum 500 per hour
    mail generation rate, and that there's "nothing they can do" to change
    that (which I presume is rubbish). I have questioned them about
    alternatives, and they have become resolutely non-responsive. I host
    several email lists on my server, one of which is a legitimate farmers'
    market email list that is almost at 500.

    Is there a way to get GNU mailman to batch or parcel mailouts to comply
    with this policy? I ran into this problem before, and it seemed that
    Mailman simply gave up on the whole mailout, archived the mail, and
    moved on. GNU Mailman in the webserve.ca plan that I have is managed by
    Cpanel.

    Thanks,

    - Henrik

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  • Mark Sapiro at Oct 18, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    Henrik wrote:
    Is there a way to get GNU mailman to batch or parcel mailouts to comply
    with this policy? I ran into this problem before, and it seemed that
    Mailman simply gave up on the whole mailout, archived the mail, and
    moved on. GNU Mailman in the webserve.ca plan that I have is managed by
    Cpanel.

    The short answer is No, particularly in a hosted situation.

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