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  • Brad Knowles at Aug 16, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    On 8/16/07, wrote:

    I will be out of the office beginning on Friday, August 17th and will
    return to the office on Monday, August 27th. I will be checking email
    only occasionally. If this is an emergency, you can leave a voicemail
    at 212-924-9081. Otherwise, I will respond to your email when I return
    to the office on 8/27.
    Your out-of-office auto-reply went out to the entire mailing list.
    This is not appropriate.

    I've set you to NOMAIL and moderated, and when you get back in the
    office you can come talk to us about the problems your auto-responder
    has caused -- please send a note to postmaster at python.org. If we can
    be convinced that this problem will not recur, we will allow you to
    be unmoderated and to start receiving mail again from the list.

    And yes, I did mean for a copy of this response to be posted to the
    list as well.
    Thanks,
    Nick Bogaty

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  • Dawn Kolb at Aug 16, 2007 at 11:35 pm
    Am I missing something? What problems did his auto-responder cause? I just
    want to know in case I forget to disable any lists that I am on. Or is it
    something specific to him because he is a co-moderator of this list?

    Dawn Kolb
    On 8/16/07, Brad Knowles wrote:
    On 8/16/07, wrote:

    I will be out of the office beginning on Friday, August 17th and will
    return to the office on Monday, August 27th. I will be checking email
    only occasionally. If this is an emergency, you can leave a voicemail
    at 212-924-9081. Otherwise, I will respond to your email when I return
    to the office on 8/27.
    Your out-of-office auto-reply went out to the entire mailing list.
    This is not appropriate.

    I've set you to NOMAIL and moderated, and when you get back in the
    office you can come talk to us about the problems your auto-responder
    has caused -- please send a note to postmaster at python.org. If we can
    be convinced that this problem will not recur, we will allow you to
    be unmoderated and to start receiving mail again from the list.

    And yes, I did mean for a copy of this response to be posted to the
    list as well.
    Thanks,
    Nick Bogaty

    --
    Nick Bogaty
    Executive Director
    International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)
    nbogaty at idpf.org
    www.idpf.org
    (212) 924-9081 direct
    (212) 208-0978 fax
  • Brad Knowles at Aug 17, 2007 at 4:08 am

    On 8/16/07, Dawn Kolb wrote:

    Am I missing something? What problems did his auto-responder cause?
    Everyone on the list got a copy. All auto-responders should be set
    up so that they do not respond to any list traffic.

    He's a digest user, so if he were to see another digest, he'd
    generate another auto-response to the whole list. If he weren't a
    digest user, he'd be generating an auto-response for every single
    post to the list -- including all of his own auto-responses. Imagine
    if two such people were on the list, so that they both replied to all
    posts on the list, including the auto-responses from the other guy.

    That's one of the quickest possible ways to kill a mailing list, and
    to bury all the mailing list recipients with hundreds of thousands or
    millions of copies of the same damn stupid auto-response.
    I just
    want to know in case I forget to disable any lists that I am on. Or is it
    something specific to him because he is a co-moderator of this list?
    He's not the co-moderator, I am.

    And I kill subscriptions from people with bad auto-responders, with
    extreme prejudice.

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