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Hi, all.
I find that I'm not able to post to a specific Mailman list running
Mailman 2.1B2. If I post from an address at Utoronto.ca, using a rogers.com
SMTP server, everything is fine. If I post from a Gmail address using the
Gmail SMTP server, I get headers in the message body and messages with no
subject. I think this might be a problem with the Gmail implementation of
Domain Keys, but am not sure. I am receiving and sending with Outlook 2003,
but the choice of mail client sending doesn't seem to matter to the result.
Below, I have a message sent from the utoronto.ca address and another sent
from the gmail.com address. Both messages contain the same subject and body
text, both were sent from the same client and computer, both were sent to
the same list, and both were received from that list on the same computer
and client, so the only variable I can think of is the SMTP server used to
send them. Would anyone know why this is happening?
Aman

Message from utoronto.ca address, this message arrived properly. The headers
and body are separated from each other and the rest of this message by blank
lines. Otherwise, they are unaltered.
Headers

Delivered-To: aman.singer at gmail.com
Received: by 10.78.194.14 with SMTP id r14cs332128huf;
Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:38:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.67.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr18712268ugl.1168295938259;
Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:38:58 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es>
Received: from llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (llla207-a.servidoresdns.net
[217.76.128.98])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i39si40279072ugd.2007.01.08.14.38.53;
Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:38:58 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 217.76.128.98 is neither permitted nor
denied by best guess record for domain of
msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es)
Received: from llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1])
by llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP
id D0A212A5EE5; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:38:52 +0100 (CET)
X-Original-To: codefactory.es.msp_mailing at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net
Delivered-To: codefactory.es.msp_mailing at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net
Received: from llsa730-a01.servidoresdns.net (llsa730-a01.servidoresdns.net
[82.223.190.24])
by llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C702A3828
for <codefactory.es.msp_mailing at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net>;
Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:38:51 +0100 (CET)
Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by smtp-01.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D7335067
for <codefactory.es.msp_mailing at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net>;
Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:38:51 +0100 (CET)
Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com
(smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com
[206.190.36.80])
by smtp-01.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 78B9335236
for <msp_mailing at codefactory.es>; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:38:47 +0100
(CET)
Received: (qmail 71508 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2007 22:38:45 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO appdesk) (facable at [email protected]
with
login)
by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2007 22:38:45 -0000
X-YMail-OSG:
O.8d490VM1l7s8LGGrb4dW_w3M7j204TaSYLYviBZ4.tLf0BtT_UfXujwmGU020sOg--
From: "Aman Singer" <aman.singer at utoronto.ca>
To: <msp_mailing at codefactory.es>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:40:09 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
Thread-Index: AcczdfOHXLydKqITQraUGi8f0BOPRg==
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
Message-Id: <20070108223847.78B9335236 at smtp-01.servidoresdns.net>
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.704 tagged_above=0.01 required=5
tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID
X-Spam-Score: 1.704
X-Spam-Tests: InternalSpamCheck
X-Spam-Level: *
Subject: [Mobile Speak Pocket] Test
X-BeenThere: msp_mailing at codefactory.es
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2
Precedence: bulk
Sender: msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es
Errors-To: msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es

Body

Testing 123. This is a test of the Mailman list.

[Note: If you wish to post your reply to the list, use the "Reply All",
rather than the "Reply", option of your email client.]
_______________________________________________
msp_mailing list
msp_mailing at codefactory.es
http://list.codefactory.es/mailman/listinfo/codefactory.es.msp_mailing

Message from gmail.com address, this message arrived with part of the header
in the body of the message. That is, it arrived badly. The headers and body
are separated from each other and the rest of this message by blank lines.
Otherwise, they are unaltered.
Headers

Delivered-To: aman.singer at gmail.com
Received: by 10.78.194.14 with SMTP id r14cs332746huf;
Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:50:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.67.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr18721597ugl.1168296599969;
Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:49:59 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es>
Received: from llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (llla207-a.servidoresdns.net
[217.76.128.98])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id u1si27989941uge.2007.01.08.14.49.55;
Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:49:59 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 217.76.128.98 is neither permitted nor
denied by best guess record for domain of
msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es)
DomainKey-Status: bad format
Received: from llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1])
by llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP
id BD83A2A5ED5; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:49:54 +0100 (CET)
X-Original-To: codefactory.es.msp_mailing at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net
Delivered-To: codefactory.es.msp_mailing at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net
Received: from llsa730-a01.servidoresdns.net (llsa730-a01.servidoresdns.net
[82.223.190.24])
by llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2607C2953AD
for <codefactory.es.msp_mailing at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net>;
Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:49:53 +0100 (CET)
Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by smtp-01.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082A7352EE
for <codefactory.es.msp_mailing at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net>;
Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:49:53 +0100 (CET)
Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com
[64.233.162.239])
by smtp-01.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC0B35362
for <msp_mailing at codefactory.es>; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:49:49 +0100
(CET)
Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id z6so2315842nzd
for <msp_mailing at codefactory.es>;
Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:49:48 -0800 (PST)
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=beta; d=gmail.com;
Message-Id: <20070108224954.BD83A2A5ED5 at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:49:54 +0100 (CET)
From: msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es
To: undisclosed-recipients:;

Body


h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-e
ncoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id;


b=AOMwVoy14SDxt+7bDsRLIs+8jijdH406+iCOFHjsjDJPFswngLkUj2cDRsdTouLEt4JvlSn9bj
G063TFNbGvDAOjOa+L69lJqHZD1M7sflW42hSe66YUZReLbNmYX4SWn8Tvi1hFhg7jBb77bNqyfL
z2iDbdnvAlG46ARa21cYA=
Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr49813476pyk.1168296587810;
Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:49:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from appdesk ( [64.229.169.146])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a79sm38675295pye.2007.01.08.14.49.46;
Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:49:47 -0800 (PST)
From: "Aman Singer" <aman.singer at gmail.com>
To: <msp_mailing at codefactory.es>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:51:26 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
Thread-Index: Acczd4cIlaI/0xIeSkiPufyyHZ394g==
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
Message-ID: <45a2ca8b.556027e6.7a3c.ffffe7f1 at mx.google.com>
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.024 tagged_above=0.01 required=5 tests=RCVD_BY_IP
X-Spam-Score: 0.024
X-Spam-Tests: InternalSpamCheck
X-Spam-Level:
Subject: [Mobile Speak Pocket] Test
X-BeenThere: msp_mailing at codefactory.es
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2
Precedence: bulk
Sender: msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es
Errors-To: msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es

Testing 123. This is a test of the Mailman list.

[Note: If you wish to post your reply to the list, use the "Reply All",
rather than the "Reply", option of your email client.]
_______________________________________________
msp_mailing list
msp_mailing at codefactory.es
http://list.codefactory.es/mailman/listinfo/codefactory.es.msp_mailing

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  • Mark Sapiro at Jan 9, 2007 at 12:15 am ⇧

    Aman Singer wrote:

    I find that I'm not able to post to a specific Mailman list running
    Mailman 2.1B2.

    Over 4 years old. Current release is 2.1.9. Is there some reason why
    you can't upgrade?

    If I post from an address at Utoronto.ca, using a rogers.com
    SMTP server, everything is fine. If I post from a Gmail address using the
    Gmail SMTP server, I get headers in the message body and messages with no
    subject. I think this might be a problem with the Gmail implementation of
    Domain Keys, but am not sure. I am receiving and sending with Outlook 2003,
    but the choice of mail client sending doesn't seem to matter to the result.
    How about the choice of mail client reading the resultant post?

    Below, I have a message sent from the utoronto.ca address and another sent
    from the gmail.com address. Both messages contain the same subject and body
    text, both were sent from the same client and computer, both were sent to
    the same list, and both were received from that list on the same computer
    and client, so the only variable I can think of is the SMTP server used to
    send them. Would anyone know why this is happening?

    First message snipped.

    Message from gmail.com address, this message arrived with part of the header
    in the body of the message. That is, it arrived badly. The headers and body
    are separated from each other and the rest of this message by blank lines.
    Otherwise, they are unaltered.
    Headers <snip>
    DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
    s=beta; d=gmail.com;

    The next 4 headers have been inserted along with blank lines in the
    middle of the DomainKey-Signature: header. This is presumably because
    something inserted a blank line at this point terminating the headers.

    Message-Id: <20070108224954.BD83A2A5ED5 at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net>
    Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:49:54 +0100 (CET)
    From: msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es
    To: undisclosed-recipients:;

    Body


    h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-e
    ncoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id;


    b=AOMwVoy14SDxt+7bDsRLIs+8jijdH406+iCOFHjsjDJPFswngLkUj2cDRsdTouLEt4JvlSn9bj
    G063TFNbGvDAOjOa+L69lJqHZD1M7sflW42hSe66YUZReLbNmYX4SWn8Tvi1hFhg7jBb77bNqyfL
    z2iDbdnvAlG46ARa21cYA=

    It is difficult to tell from the 'folding' and 'refolding' what the
    original acrtually looked like.


    <snip>
    X-BeenThere: msp_mailing at codefactory.es
    X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2
    Precedence: bulk
    Sender: msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es
    Errors-To: msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es

    The above 5 headers were inserted by Mailman immediately before SMTP
    delivery. At this point, The headers above had not yet been munged.
    Thus, my best guess is that it is some MTA between Mailman and you
    that is corrupting the DomainKey-Signature: header.

    Judging from the headers
    Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 217.76.128.98 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of msp_mailing-bounces at codefactory.es)
    DomainKey-Status: bad format
    Received: from llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
    by llla207-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP
    id BD83A2A5ED5; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:49:54 +0100 (CET)
    and the fact that the added Date: and Message-ID: headers are
    Message-Id: <20070108224954.BD83A2A5ED5 at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net>
    Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:49:54 +0100 (CET)
    (same timestamp and messade-id host name)

    I think the Postfix at llla207-a.servidoresdns.net may be responsible
    for munging the DomainKey-Signature:, or it may just be the first MTA
    that detected it, and llsa730-a01.servidoresdns.net may have done it.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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