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Every time a message goes out to one person who is a member of my lists
(who has a uchicago.edu address), I see in the Postfix log what looks like
it should be a bounce:

Dec 9 15:00:45 xen1 postfix/smtpd[3315]: connect from relay01.uchicago.edu[128.135.12.136]
Dec 9 15:00:47 xen1 postfix/smtpd[3315]: DD9174F021A: client=relay01.uchicago.edu[128.135.12.136]
Dec 9 15:00:47 xen1 postfix/cleanup[3318]: DD9174F021A: message-id=<200612092004.AHW20671 at uchicago.edu>
Dec 9 15:00:48 xen1 postfix/qmgr[1276]: DD9174F021A: from=<>, sizeP89, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Dec 9 15:00:48 xen1 postfix/smtpd[3315]: disconnect from relay01.uchicago.edu[128.135.12.136]
Dec 9 15:00:48 xen1 postfix/local[3319]: DD9174F021A: to=<partyhats-bounces at xen1.xcski.com>, orig_to=<partyhats-bounces at list.xcski.com>, relay=local, delay=3, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces partyhats)
Dec 9 15:00:48 xen1 postfix/qmgr[1276]: DD9174F021A: removed

But then I don't see any mention of a bounce being recieved from her in
the mailman logs. Is there some way to see if this is a bounce or if
there are bounces being recieved from her? I've tried sending her direct
mail, and it doesn't bounce. And she hasn't complained about missing any
messages from the mailing list.

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  • Mark Sapiro at Dec 9, 2006 at 10:42 pm

    Paul Tomblin wrote:
    Every time a message goes out to one person who is a member of my lists
    (who has a uchicago.edu address), I see in the Postfix log what looks like
    it should be a bounce:

    Dec 9 15:00:45 xen1 postfix/smtpd[3315]: connect from relay01.uchicago.edu[128.135.12.136]
    Dec 9 15:00:47 xen1 postfix/smtpd[3315]: DD9174F021A: client=relay01.uchicago.edu[128.135.12.136]
    Dec 9 15:00:47 xen1 postfix/cleanup[3318]: DD9174F021A: message-id=<200612092004.AHW20671 at uchicago.edu>
    Dec 9 15:00:48 xen1 postfix/qmgr[1276]: DD9174F021A: from=<>, sizeP89, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Dec 9 15:00:48 xen1 postfix/smtpd[3315]: disconnect from relay01.uchicago.edu[128.135.12.136]
    Dec 9 15:00:48 xen1 postfix/local[3319]: DD9174F021A: to=<partyhats-bounces at xen1.xcski.com>, orig_to=<partyhats-bounces at list.xcski.com>, relay=local, delay=3, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces partyhats)
    Dec 9 15:00:48 xen1 postfix/qmgr[1276]: DD9174F021A: removed

    But then I don't see any mention of a bounce being recieved from her in
    the mailman logs. Is there some way to see if this is a bounce or if
    there are bounces being recieved from her? I've tried sending her direct
    mail, and it doesn't bounce. And she hasn't complained about missing any
    messages from the mailing list.

    There are a few possibilities. First is
    bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner set to Yes for the list. If
    not, and the bounce is not recognized as such, it will be silently
    discarded.

    Another possibility is the bounce is recognized, but because of
    aliasing or forwarding or ? at the recipients end the address in the
    bounce is not identically the same (except for case) as her subscribed
    address. In this case the recognized bounce for a non-list-member is
    silently discarded.

    Yet another possibility is the DSN is a delay, not a failure so no
    bounce is recorded.

    If you really want to see the DSN, temporarily change the alias for
    partyhats-bounces to go to you rather than to Mailman.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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