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Mailman stopped sending messages sometime within the last 24 hours for
reason it's keeping a secret.

Mailman 2.1.4
Postfix
Python 2.3

On a SuSE Linix I think 2.6.5-7.145 is correct version.

I have validated everything in
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&fileúq03.014.htp is
right. And it looks like it is. On locks I only have the master-lock
which seems to valid, well it was there after I stopped and started
mailman using mailmanctl. I even rebooted the server and still not
working.

Below are the logs that I could find, it seems like it might have
stopped around 11:57 today. Anyone have an idea what to check or what
might be wrong?

John


Error log
Apr 06 13:35:33 2006 (22593) Bad URL specification: None
Apr 18 16:42:22 2006 (26356) admin.py access for non-existent list:
<your_list_here
May 08 10:18:40 2006 (19472) admin.py access for non-existent list:
<listname>
May 09 13:07:21 2006 (23336) admin.py access for non-existent list:
iec-l
May 09 13:32:05 2006 (23423) admin.py access for non-existent list:
iec-l
May 09 13:32:06 2006 (23425) admin.py access for non-existent list:
iec-l
May 09 13:32:06 2006 (23426) admin.py access for non-existent list:
iec-l
May 12 15:20:27 2006 (1029) admin.py access for non-existent list:
hmsf-l
May 17 12:59:17 2006 (5968) No such list "iec-l":

Post log

May 15 19:15:11 2006 (5581) post to withdraw-l from
informix at graceland.edu, size558,
message-id=<200605160015.TAA10938 at leto.graceland.edu>, success
May 15 22:34:26 2006 (5581) post to cpsc3330-l from
farnham at graceland.edu, size“57,
message-id=<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00867A47C at athena.graceland.ed
u>, success
May 15 23:47:35 2006 (5581) post to deceased-l from
informix at graceland.edu, size067,
message-id=<200605160447.XAA11624 at leto.graceland.edu>, success
May 16 00:18:10 2006 (5581) post to cpsc3330-l from
farnham at graceland.edu, size‡98,
message-id=<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00867A47E at athena.graceland.ed
u>, success
May 16 08:13:04 2006 (5581) post to artf-l from templetn at graceland.edu,
size308,
message-id=<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00A40B1D4 at athena.graceland.ed
u>, success
May 16 08:43:07 2006 (5581) post to busdiv-l from prine at graceland.edu,
size105,
message-id=<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00A494BFA at athena.graceland.ed
u>, success
May 16 09:02:30 2006 (5581) post to indp-l from hofheins at graceland.edu,
size`50,
message-id=<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B003C5FE1E at athena.graceland.ed
u>, success
May 16 09:03:22 2006 (5581) post to cac-l from teverett at graceland.edu,
sizeˆ28,
message-id=<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00513A3CA at athena.graceland.ed
u>, success
May 16 09:10:53 2006 (5581) post to cac-l from lighthil at graceland.edu,
size339,
message-id=<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00B15D4C0 at athena.graceland.ed
u>, success

Dec 18 01:22:06 2005 (5580) NewsRunner qrunner started.
Dec 18 01:22:06 2005 (5581) OutgoingRunner qrunner started.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5576) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5576) ArchRunner qrunner exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5577) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5577) BounceRunner qrunner exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5578) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5578) CommandRunner qrunner exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5579) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5579) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5580) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5580) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5581) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5581) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5582) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5582) VirginRunner qrunner exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5583) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
Stopping.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5583) RetryRunner qrunner exiting.
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5580, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1)
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5581, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1)
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5582, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1)
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5583, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1)
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5579, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1)
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5577, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5578, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1)
May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 5576, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1)

SMTP log
May 15 23:47:35 2006 (5581) <200605160447.XAA11624 at leto.graceland.edu>
smtp for 11 recips, completed in 0.139 seconds
May 16 00:15:25 2006 (5581)
<mailman.1341.1147756524.5579.liberty-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.094 seconds
May 16 00:18:10 2006 (5581)
<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00867A47E at athena.graceland.edu> smtp for
13 recips, completed in 0.144 seconds
May 16 03:44:45 2006 (5581)
<mailman.1342.1147769083.5579.liberty-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.077 seconds
May 16 04:26:34 2006 (5581)
<mailman.1343.1147771593.5579.liberty-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.090 seconds
May 16 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.0.1147784401.11277.liberty-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.125 seconds
May 16 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.1.1147784401.11277.vp-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.065 seconds
May 16 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.2.1147784401.11277.radio-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.090 seconds
May 16 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.3.1147784401.11277.bom-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.079 seconds
May 16 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.4.1147784401.11277.stu_charge-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.093 seconds
May 16 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.5.1147784401.11277.gusupport-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.092 seconds
May 16 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.6.1147784401.11277.iecf-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.098 seconds
May 16 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.7.1147784401.11277.gusports-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.079 seconds
May 16 08:00:04 2006 (5581)
<mailman.8.1147784401.11277.busdiv-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.084 seconds
May 16 08:00:04 2006 (5581)
<mailman.9.1147784401.11277.ecouncil-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.110 seconds
May 16 08:13:04 2006 (5581)
<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00A40B1D4 at athena.graceland.edu> smtp for
18 recips, completed in 0.150 seconds
May 16 08:43:07 2006 (5581)
<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00A494BFA at athena.graceland.edu> smtp for
17 recips, completed in 0.213 seconds
May 16 09:02:30 2006 (5581)
<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B003C5FE1E at athena.graceland.edu> smtp for
65 recips, completed in 0.239 seconds
May 16 09:03:22 2006 (5581)
<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00513A3CA at athena.graceland.edu> smtp for
11 recips, completed in 0.073 seconds
May 16 09:10:53 2006 (5581)
<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00B15D4C0 at athena.graceland.edu> smtp for
11 recips, completed in 0.128 seconds
May 17 08:00:02 2006 (5581)
<mailman.0.1147870800.13840.liberty-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.121 seconds
May 17 08:00:02 2006 (5581)
<mailman.1.1147870800.13840.vp-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.056 seconds
May 17 08:00:02 2006 (5581)
<mailman.2.1147870800.13840.radio-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.084 seconds
May 17 08:00:02 2006 (5581)
<mailman.3.1147870800.13840.bom-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.121 seconds
May 17 08:00:02 2006 (5581)
<mailman.4.1147870800.13840.stu_charge-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.073 seconds
May 17 08:00:02 2006 (5581)
<mailman.5.1147870800.13840.gusupport-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.084 seconds
May 17 08:00:02 2006 (5581)
<mailman.6.1147870801.13840.iecf-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.122 seconds
May 17 08:00:02 2006 (5581)
<mailman.7.1147870801.13840.gusports-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.062 seconds
May 17 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.8.1147870801.13840.busdiv-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.104 seconds
May 17 08:00:03 2006 (5581)
<mailman.9.1147870801.13840.ecouncil-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.092 seconds
May 17 09:12:16 2006 (5581)
<mailman.0.1147875135.14011.todd-l at loki.graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.115 seconds
May 17 09:12:39 2006 (5581)
<mailman.0.1147875157.14018.todd-l at loki.graceland.edu> smtp for 1
recips, completed in 0.058 seconds
May 17 12:16:14 2006 (5199)
<mailman.0.1147886172.5859.alert-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
completed in 0.211 seconds
May 17 12:16:14 2006 (5199)
<mailman.1.1147886172.5859.alert-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 2 recips,
completed in 0.045 seconds

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  • Mark Sapiro at May 17, 2006 at 11:36 pm

    John Adamski wrote:
    Mailman stopped sending messages sometime within the last 24 hours for
    reason it's keeping a secret.

    Mailman 2.1.4
    Postfix
    Python 2.3

    On a SuSE Linix I think 2.6.5-7.145 is correct version.

    I have validated everything in
    http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&fileúq03.014.htp is
    right. And it looks like it is. On locks I only have the master-lock
    which seems to valid, well it was there after I stopped and started
    mailman using mailmanctl. I even rebooted the server and still not
    working.

    Below are the logs that I could find, it seems like it might have
    stopped around 11:57 today. Anyone have an idea what to check or what
    might be wrong?

    John


    Error log
    <nothing relevant>
    Post log
    <last post>
    May 16 09:10:53 2006 (5581) post to cac-l from lighthil at graceland.edu,
    size339,
    message-id=<EA9B1801BA3A584887D7D4AB70DC30B00B15D4C0 at athena.graceland.ed
    u>, success

    qrunner log ...
    Dec 18 01:22:06 2005 (5580) NewsRunner qrunner started.
    Dec 18 01:22:06 2005 (5581) OutgoingRunner qrunner started.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5576) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
    Stopping.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5576) ArchRunner qrunner exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5577) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
    Stopping.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5577) BounceRunner qrunner exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5578) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
    Stopping.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5578) CommandRunner qrunner exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5579) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
    Stopping.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5579) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5580) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
    Stopping.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5580) NewsRunner qrunner exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5581) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
    Stopping.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5581) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5582) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
    Stopping.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5582) VirginRunner qrunner exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5583) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM.
    Stopping.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5583) RetryRunner qrunner exiting.
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
    (pid: 5580, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1)
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
    (pid: 5581, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1)
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
    (pid: 5582, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1)
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
    (pid: 5583, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1)
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
    (pid: 5579, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1)
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
    (pid: 5577, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
    (pid: 5578, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1)
    May 17 11:57:34 2006 (5575) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
    (pid: 5576, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1)

    The runners all received SIGTERM - from what/where is the question.

    Presumably, there are more entries from your stop/start/reboot.
    SMTP log
    <old messages through>
    May 17 09:12:39 2006 (5581)
    <mailman.0.1147875157.14018.todd-l at loki.graceland.edu> smtp for 1
    recips, completed in 0.058 seconds
    And these (an owner notification?) are apparently subsequent to
    restarting the queue runners.
    May 17 12:16:14 2006 (5199)
    <mailman.0.1147886172.5859.alert-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 1 recips,
    completed in 0.211 seconds
    May 17 12:16:14 2006 (5199)
    <mailman.1.1147886172.5859.alert-l at graceland.edu> smtp for 2 recips,
    completed in 0.045 seconds
    Is your MTA delivering to Mailman? Check the Postfix logs.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • John Adamski at May 30, 2006 at 2:49 pm
    I believe I found the cause of the problem; SMTPHOST = 'localhost' in
    mm_cfg.py was commented out and a line with the fully qualified server
    name as added. Switching which was commented out fix the problem. I
    must have done that when trying to resolve the Exchange sending issue.
    Or one of my co-workers was trying to help me out. Either way I am now
    getting the correct number of recips in the smtp log file. I got 50
    recips on a test email to a list that has 50 members, before the switch
    would only get 1 recips.

    Now I get to go have fun getting umbrella list working here. Woohoo.

    Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions.

    John


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro at value.net]
    Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:34 PM
    To: John Adamski; mailman-users at python.org
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] list stop sending - no changes to server
    ormailman in months

    John Adamski wrote:
    The post & SMTP logs seem to indicate it got the email and sent it ok,
    but its not getting there. Exchange logs seem to indicate it got the
    email from mailman and is sending it.


    Where can I go to verify who,what,when mailman sent a email. I don't
    know mailman's internals so not sure if it generates a email per
    memeber on a list or sends a email with all member on one email. So
    not sure what I should be looking for to resolve this issue.

    Mailman's 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs will tell you about delivery
    to the outgoing smtp server. If there is an entry in the 'smtp' log of
    the form '%(msg_message-id)s smtp to %(listname)s for %(#recips)d
    recips, completed in %(time).3f seconds' and no entry in the
    'smtp-failure' log, Mailman has successfully transferred the message
    to the outgoing MTA. If bounces are subsequently returned, they will
    be noted in the 'bounce' log if bounce processing is enabled.

    As far as how Mailman delivers, this depends on a number of things. The
    basic controls are Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py options SMTP_MAX_RCPTS
    (default 500) and SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION (default 0). These
    defaults say messages should be delivered to the MTA in chunks with a
    maximum of 500 recipients per chunk and as many chunks as necessary
    with one connect to the server. SMTP_MAX_RCPTS adjusts the chunk size,
    and if SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION is > 0, after that many chunks
    are sent, Mailman will close the SMTP connection and re-open it for
    the next chunk.

    VERP and personalization will reduce the chunk size to 1 - i.e., each
    recipient will be sent to individually.

    In any case, there will be only one 'smtp' log entry for a successful
    message send indicating the total #recips and time, regardless of how
    many chunks are sent.

    See the Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py settings for VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL and
    OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION and the list's personalize setting
    if OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes.

    As far as resolving the issue, the problem seems to be out of Mailman's
    hands based on what you say about the post and smtp logs. You may be
    able to work around the issue by mm_cfg.py settings like for example

    SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 5
    SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 1

    but this may not help depending on what the actual problem is.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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