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I built and installed mailman stable 2.1.5
installed with postfix (I can't locate version, but it's recent)

list creation works and also with a virtual domain.

However, when I try and subscribe an address, two confirmation requests come
through. they have different hashes and my mail log shows two different emails
(so it's definatly mailman doing something twice)
They are both confirmation requests for the same list and are identical apart
from hash and message-id in the header

message-ids taken from mail log are as follows.

mailman.2.1113351781.27710.announce at example.com

followed 1 second later by

mailman.3.1113351781.27710.announce at example.com

Can any anybody work out what I broke or is broken.

Many thnaks

Rob

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  • Rob Shepherd at Apr 13, 2005 at 2:08 pm

    Jim Tittsler wrote:
    On Apr 13, 2005, at 20:21, Rob Shepherd wrote:

    However, when I try and subscribe an address, two confirmation
    requests come through. they have different hashes and my mail log
    shows two different emails
    (so it's definatly mailman doing something twice)

    Do you get two confirmation mails if you subscribe from the web interface?

    (If it is only when trying to subscribe via email, I'd look for
    broken/superfluous aliases.)
    OK then first off I apologise, I was sending "subscribe" to announce-request and
    not announce-join. Now it sends only with the correct address.

    However if I follow the link to confirm and then hit "cancel my subscription
    request"

    I get a "we're sorry, we've hit a bug" page.

    Who do I send this to? I don't want to post it verbatim here, because it
    contains my system information.

    Can I send it to a Human?

    Thanks

    Rob

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    * Rob Shepherd,
    * University Of Wales, Bangor,
    * School of Informatics,
    * Dean Street,
    * Bangor,
    * Gwynedd, UK /\ /\
    * LL57 1UT / \/ \ /\
    * --------------/---/ \--\----
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  • Jim Tittsler at Apr 13, 2005 at 3:13 pm

    On Apr 13, 2005, at 23:08, Rob Shepherd wrote:

    Jim Tittsler wrote:
    On Apr 13, 2005, at 20:21, Rob Shepherd wrote:
    However, when I try and subscribe an address, two confirmation
    requests come through. they have different hashes and my mail log
    shows two different emails
    (so it's definatly mailman doing something twice)
    Do you get two confirmation mails if you subscribe from the web
    interface?
    (If it is only when trying to subscribe via email, I'd look for
    broken/superfluous aliases.)
    OK then first off I apologise, I was sending "subscribe" to
    announce-request and not announce-join. Now it sends only with the
    correct address.
    I think there is something else going on, because the -request address
    should work. I'd suggest double checking your aliases.
    (~mailman/bin/genaliases can generate the proper list for you.)
    However if I follow the link to confirm and then hit "cancel my
    subscription request"

    I get a "we're sorry, we've hit a bug" page.
    That is a known bug in Mailman 2.1.5. A patch is available:

    <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?
    funcÞtail&aid45909&group_id3&atid00103>
    or you can upgrade to the Mailman 2.1.6beta version where it has
    already been fixed.

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  • Rob Shepherd at Apr 13, 2005 at 5:32 pm

    Jim Tittsler wrote:
    On Apr 13, 2005, at 23:08, Rob Shepherd wrote:

    Jim Tittsler wrote:
    On Apr 13, 2005, at 20:21, Rob Shepherd wrote:

    However, when I try and subscribe an address, two confirmation
    requests come through. they have different hashes and my mail log
    shows two different emails
    (so it's definatly mailman doing something twice)
    Do you get two confirmation mails if you subscribe from the web
    interface?
    (If it is only when trying to subscribe via email, I'd look for
    broken/superfluous aliases.)

    OK then first off I apologise, I was sending "subscribe" to
    announce-request and not announce-join. Now it sends only with the
    correct address.

    I think there is something else going on, because the -request address
    should work. I'd suggest double checking your aliases.
    (~mailman/bin/genaliases can generate the proper list for you.)
    Thanks very much for your assistance Jim, much appreciated.

    genaliases produces the same files as before.

    This problem happens if I send to a virtual list (normal postfix virtual mail
    works fine) or if I send to a non virtual alias.

    From postfix's logs I see in both occurences postfix expands the alisases
    properly and delivers to command just the once.

    NOTE: if I post subscribe to -subscribe or -join it works fine ( just the one post )
    However if I post subscribe to -request it send to different confirmation emails.


    I remembered the "owner-request-special" conf for postfix and checked that; it
    says "no", as it should.

    I am under the impression that if it "should" work but doesn't then there may be
    other gremlins waiting to act but maybe not identify themselves in such an
    obvious manner next time.....

    before I try and trace the problem would you recommend I may as well upgrade.

    How "beta" is 2.1.6beta? Any reports of using it in a production environment?

    Will it be easy to upgrade to stable once it is released?

    Many thanks.

    Rob

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    /**
    * Rob Shepherd,
    * University Of Wales, Bangor,
    * School of Informatics,
    * Dean Street,
    * Bangor,
    * Gwynedd, UK /\ /\
    * LL57 1UT / \/ \ /\
    * --------------/---/ \--\----
    */
  • Jim Tittsler at Apr 14, 2005 at 3:02 am

    On Apr 14, 2005, at 02:32, Rob Shepherd wrote:

    before I try and trace the problem would you recommend I may as well
    upgrade.

    How "beta" is 2.1.6beta? Any reports of using it in a production
    environment?
    It fixes some of the known problems with 2.1.5, and adds only a few new
    features. I think it is an improvement, but there haven't been a *lot*
    of reports of people successfully using it showing up on the mailing
    list... but no howls of pain either.

    I can't imagine that it will change the problem you are seeing however.
    Will it be easy to upgrade to stable once it is released?
    Yes. The usual configure, make, make install dance should work.

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