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Greetings. I've just started transmissions on my first Mailman-hosted
direct participation list, and I've noticed a couple of oddities, both
likely the result of configuration issues.

- Attempts to approve or reject moderated postings via e-mail
fail. The reason is obvious -- the message header subject
simply says that attention is required, while the actual submitted
message is buried deep within. Message replies go back
to list-owner, without apparently triggering any further
processing by mailman relating to the approval (or rejection).
Is a configuration problem indicated?

- When a user replies to a message such as:
Subject: [List] topic

The resulting reply subject header is:
Subject: Re: [List] topic

rather than:

Subject: [List] Re: [List] topic

Is this the expected behavior? I had assumed that the list name
would always appear immediately after Subject:.

Thanks much.

--Lauren--
Lauren Weinstein
lauren at pfir.org or lauren at vortex.com or lauren at eepi.org
Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
http://www.pfir.org/lauren
Co-Founder, PFIR
- People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
Co-Founder, EEPI
- Electronic Entertainment Policy Initiative - http://www.eepi.org
Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com
Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy
Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com

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  • Mark Sapiro at Apr 7, 2005 at 1:35 am

    Lauren Weinstein wrote:
    Greetings. I've just started transmissions on my first Mailman-hosted
    direct participation list, and I've noticed a couple of oddities, both
    likely the result of configuration issues.

    - Attempts to approve or reject moderated postings via e-mail
    fail. The reason is obvious -- the message header subject
    simply says that attention is required, while the actual submitted
    message is buried deep within. Message replies go back
    to list-owner, without apparently triggering any further
    processing by mailman relating to the approval (or rejection).
    Is a configuration problem indicated?
    You need to reply to the embedded message or simply craft a new message
    To: the listname-request address with Subject: confirm whatever the
    token in the subject of the embedded message/rfc822 part is.

    Then add Approved: list_password as a header or as the first body line
    of the reply if you want to approve the message, or don't add the
    Approved: if you want to discard the message.

    If you're MUA is sufficiently mime aware, you can just open the
    message/rfc822 sub part and reply to it, but not all MUAs will do this
    or do it correctly.
    - When a user replies to a message such as:
    Subject: [List] topic

    The resulting reply subject header is:
    Subject: Re: [List] topic

    rather than:

    Subject: [List] Re: [List] topic

    Is this the expected behavior? I had assumed that the list name
    would always appear immediately after Subject:.
    In Mailman versions through 2.1.5, if [List] or whatever the subject
    prefix is is anywhere in the subject, it will just be left where it is
    and not repeated.

    This optionally changes in 2.1.6 where if you set OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING =
    No in mm_cfg.py, the existing prefix will always be moved to the
    beginning of the Subject:

    --
    Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan
  • Mark Sapiro at Apr 7, 2005 at 2:05 am

    Lauren Weinstein wrote:
    By the way, I just wanted to say how incredibly useful I'm
    finding Mailman. It was a bit of work to convert over from
    my ancient, hand-cranked Majordomo systems, but it was worth it.

    While I think of it, is there any way for me to cause the full text
    of submissions to be returned to senders when the moderator rejects?
    Sometimes only a small issue caused the rejection, and it would be
    nice to give the author the message back so that they could easily
    modify and resubmit if they don't have a copy around already.
    Currently, the only way I know to do this is to edit the approval
    message and then forward it back to the original poster. Note that the
    "todo" list for futre implementation at http://www.list.org/todo.html
    contains both of the following:

    # Allow the moderator to edit posts being held for approval (make it
    evident, either through a header or other means that the message was
    edited by the moderator).
    # New moderation choice: annotate and send to author for resubmittal.
    Or just be able to annotate the message for multiple moderator
    scenarios.

    --
    Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> The highway is for gamblers,
    San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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