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Boston city council public notices of council committees public hearings like
the human rights committee are distributed by email formatted in microsoft
software like .doc

a. How might a listserver type archive of the notices be set up so that
forwarding the notices as they are will appear in the listserver archive in
readable text ?...

b. Does the mailman listserver software automatically convert .doc ?...

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  • Brad Knowles at Jul 17, 2004 at 8:56 am

    At 1:50 AM -0400 2004-07-17, Don Saklad wrote:

    a. How might a listserver type archive of the notices be set up so that
    forwarding the notices as they are will appear in the listserver
    archive in
    readable text ?...
    They'd have to be converted from .doc to a text format that is
    more readable.
    b. Does the mailman listserver software automatically convert .doc ?...
    No. Mailman uses the text-mode browser called "lynx" to make an
    attempt to convert HTML-formatted documents into a readable text
    format, if you configure it to convert HTML. It does not attempt to
    perform any other kind of conversion. This is something that you
    would need to do yourself.

    --
    Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles at skynet.be>

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
    temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

    -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
    Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

    SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
  • Don Saklad at Jul 17, 2004 at 9:22 am
    Thank you Brad Knowles !

    ...not being a programmer, how could it get set up so that anyone and
    everyone might read the current and archived public notices of
    council committees public hearings ?...


    Here's an example of contrary Boston city council's
    public records that city of boston city council offices are
    not willing to make available on the web with the full text
    of the public document nor by email formatted in plain text ASCII

    This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
    this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

    ------_=_NextPart_000_01C46398.58386048
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C46398.58386048"


    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C46398.58386048
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"

    Please note in addition to the Human Rights Committee notice attached,
    earlier a hearing notice on Docket #0265 scheduled for Wednesday July 7 was
    sent. Previously announced for 6:00pm It is know scheduled for 1:00 pm


    REVISED COUNCIL CALENDAR ATTACHED


    Cheryl Rankin
    City Council
    617 635-3040



    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C46398.58386048
    Content-Type: text/html;
    charset="iso-8859-1"

    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
    <HTML><HEAD>
    <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">


    <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
    <BODY style="COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Bradley Hand ITC"
    hb_focus_attach="true">
    <DIV><SPAN classH9560820-06072004><STRONG>Please note in addition to &nbsp;the
    Human Rights Committee notice attached, earlier a hearing notice on Docket #0265
    scheduled for Wednesday&nbsp; July 7 was sent</STRONG>.&nbsp; <FONT
    color=#ff0000 size=4><STRONG>Previously announced for 6:00pm It is know
    scheduled for 1:00 pm</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN classH9560820-06072004><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000
    size=4></FONT></STRONG></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN classH9560820-06072004><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000
    size=4></FONT></STRONG></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN classH9560820-06072004><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4>REVISED
    COUNCIL CALENDAR ATTACHED</FONT></STRONG></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2><STRONG>Cheryl Rankin</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2><STRONG>City Council</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2><STRONG>617 635-3040</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <P></P></BODY></HTML>

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    name="Doc1_.doc"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
    Content-Disposition: attachment;
    filename="Doc1_.doc"

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    name="notice1.doc"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
    Content-Disposition: attachment;
    filename="notice1.doc"

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    Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
    Content-Disposition: attachment;
    filename="070504r.doc"

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  • Brad Knowles at Jul 17, 2004 at 1:10 pm

    At 5:22 AM -0400 2004-07-17, Don Saklad wrote:

    Here's an example of contrary Boston city council's
    public records that city of boston city council offices are
    not willing to make available on the web with the full text
    of the public document nor by email formatted in plain text ASCII
    Note that there are some freely available programs to convert
    Microsoft Word documents to HTML and other forms. For example, see
    the program "wv", <http://freshmeat.net/projects/wv/>. You could use
    programs like this (or StarOffice) to do the conversion and then post
    the resulting documents to the mailing list.

    It shouldn't be too hard to work up a way to automatically pull
    down the latest documents, convert them, and then post the
    conversions (or the links to the conversions) to the mailing list.


    However, all this would need to be done outside of Mailman.
    There are no facilities within the current version to execute
    arbitrary format conversion programs (such as wv), and I think this
    would represent a serious security risk if someone tried to add the
    feature. Supporting simple automated HTML conversion via lynx is
    potentially dangerous enough, I don't think anyone would want to go
    beyond that.

    --
    Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles at skynet.be>

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
    temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

    -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
    Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

    SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
  • Don Saklad at Jul 18, 2004 at 2:00 am
    It would not be too hard for a programmer !

    Where would there be anyone who might set it up ?...
  • Daniel Powell at Jul 20, 2004 at 12:04 pm
    I tried copying the pck files and managed to just fubar up the config
    for the mailman list where it thought it was the same as the other list
    that I copied from.

    i did an rmlist -a mailman
    stopped the mailman services
    newlist mailman
    start mailman services

    at 8 AM this morning. I got the message still

    The Mailman at paleale.networkgeek.org mailing list has -1 request(s)
    waiting for your consideration at:

    http://paleale.networkgeek.org/mailman/admindb/mailman

    Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of

    wtf

    Its a special list so I cant go check on it, I can't configure it at all. This is driving me BATTY.


    --Daniel Powell
    pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.

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