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Hi,

I have a special need for "group of emails" management, I need mailman users
help to tell me if mailman matches my needs

1) Group definition

A group is composed of members, if an email is sent to a group, all people
from the group receive it

2) Subscription policy

I want an administrator to be the only central person to be able to
register/unregister someone in a group
I have no need for subscription initiated by the user

3) Group composition

As an administrator I would like to be able to register a user in a group, but
I'd like also to put a group in another group

4) Accessibility policy

Let's say I have created groups A,B and C
As an admin I would like to be able to set the 3 following policies

group A policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group A
group B policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group B
group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C

Thanks for your help

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  • Hilton J Ralphs at Apr 18, 2004 at 8:40 pm

    Quoting Thomas Carri? <thocar at free.fr>:

    1) Group definition
    A group is composed of members, if an email is sent to a group, all people
    from the group receive it - can do
    2) Subscription policy
    I want an administrator to be the only central person to be able to
    register/unregister someone in a group
    I have no need for subscription initiated by the user
    - no problem
    3) Group composition
    As an administrator I would like to be able to register a user in a group,
    but I'd like also to put a group in another group
    - Um, not sure about this.
    4) Accessibility policy
    Let's say I have created groups A,B and C
    As an admin I would like to be able to set the 3 following policies

    group A policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group A - yes
    group B policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group B
    - not by group, but you may have to add users from 'A' to the 'List of non-
    member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted' in
    group 'B's list.
    group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C
    - yes but they would have to subscribe

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers
    Hilton Ralphs
  • Tim Faircloth at Apr 19, 2004 at 2:33 pm

    At 04:40 PM 4/18/2004, you wrote:
    Quoting Thomas Carri? <thocar at free.fr>:
    group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C
    - yes but they would have to subscribe
    not neccessarily. there's an option under Subscription rules/sender
    filters about what to do with non-member posts... "allow", "hold",
    "reject", "discard"

    /tim
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  • Hilton J Ralphs (THiNK) at Apr 19, 2004 at 4:45 pm
    You're right Tim, there's an option under "General posting
    filters" where you can allow 'the whole world' to post
    unrestricted.

    Thanks
    Cheers
    Hilton

    -----Original Message-----
    From: mailman-users-bounces at python.org
    [mailto:mailman-users-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim
    Faircloth
    At 04:40 PM 4/18/2004, you wrote:
    Quoting Thomas Carri? <thocar at free.fr>:
    group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to
    group C
    - yes but they would have to subscribe
    not neccessarily. there's an option under Subscription
    rules/sender
    filters about what to do with non-member posts... "allow",
    "hold",
    "reject", "discard"

    /tim
    --
  • Mailman-Users at Apr 19, 2004 at 4:52 pm
    You're right Tim, there's an option under "General posting
    filters" where you can allow 'the whole world' to post
    unrestricted.

    Thanks
    Cheers
    Hilton

    -----Original Message-----
    From: mailman-users-bounces at python.org
    [mailto:mailman-users-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim
    Faircloth
    At 04:40 PM 4/18/2004, you wrote:
    Quoting Thomas Carri? <thocar at free.fr>:
    group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to
    group C
    - yes but they would have to subscribe
    not neccessarily. there's an option under Subscription
    rules/sender
    filters about what to do with non-member posts... "allow",
    "hold",
    "reject", "discard"

    /tim
    --
  • Hilton J Ralphs at Apr 19, 2004 at 5:34 am

    Quoting Thomas Carri? <thocar at free.fr>:

    1) Group definition
    A group is composed of members, if an email is sent to a group, all people
    from the group receive it - can do
    2) Subscription policy
    I want an administrator to be the only central person to be able to
    register/unregister someone in a group
    I have no need for subscription initiated by the user
    - no problem
    3) Group composition
    As an administrator I would like to be able to register a user in a group,
    but I'd like also to put a group in another group
    - Um, not sure about this.
    4) Accessibility policy
    Let's say I have created groups A,B and C
    As an admin I would like to be able to set the 3 following policies

    group A policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group A - yes
    group B policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group B
    - not by group, but you may have to add users from 'A' to the 'List of non-
    member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted' in
    group 'B's list.
    group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C
    - yes but they would have to subscribe

    Hope this helps.

    Cheers
    Hilton Ralphs
  • Lloyd F. Tennison at Apr 20, 2004 at 3:39 am
    From: Thomas Carri? <thocar at free.fr>
    To: mailman-users at python.org
    Date sent: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:21:07 +0200
    Subject: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ?
    Send reply to: thocar at free.fr
    <mailto:mailman-users-request at python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
    <mailto:mailman-users-request at python.org?subject=subscribe>
    Hi,

    I have a special need for "group of emails" management, I need mailman users
    help to tell me if mailman matches my needs

    1) Group definition

    A group is composed of members, if an email is sent to a group, all people
    from the group receive it
    Yes, no problem.
    2) Subscription policy

    I want an administrator to be the only central person to be able to
    register/unregister someone in a group
    I have no need for subscription initiated by the user
    Yes, no problem - option for it.

    3) Group composition

    As an administrator I would like to be able to register a user in a group, but
    I'd like also to put a group in another group
    I believe that can be down using the umbrella function. Seach the
    archives for more info on that.
    4) Accessibility policy

    Let's say I have created groups A,B and C
    As an admin I would like to be able to set the 3 following policies

    group A policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group A
    group B policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group B
    group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C
    I think the only way is to have separate lists. Someone else correct
    me if I am wrong.


    Thanks.

    Lloyd F. Tennison
    lloyd_tennison at whoever.com

    No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message.
    However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily
    inconvenienced.
  • Agrevet at Apr 22, 2004 at 5:47 am
    Yes, but doesn't that really weaken the security of the list which is the
    whole point for using Mailman in the first place, (the point being to protect the
    list from being highjacked by spoofers, etc.)???

    Alice G.
    Paris, France

    Dans un e-mail dat? du 4/21/2004 7:21:22 PM Romance Daylight Time,
    hilton at think.co.za a ?crit :
    Sujet : RE: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ?
    Date : 4/21/2004 7:21:22 PM Romance Daylight Time
    De : hilton at think.co.za
    A : tpf at canes.gsw.edu, mailman-users at python.org
    Envoy? via Internet



    You're right Tim, there's an option under "General posting
    filters" where you can allow 'the whole world' to post
    unrestricted.

    Thanks
    Cheers
    Hilton

    -----Original Message-----
    From: mailman-users-bounces at python.org
    [mailto:mailman-users-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim
    Faircloth
    At 04:40 PM 4/18/2004, you wrote:
    Quoting Thomas Carri? <thocar at free.fr>:
    group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to
    group C
    - yes but they would have to subscribe
    not neccessarily. there's an option under Subscription
    rules/sender
    filters about what to do with non-member posts... "allow",
    "hold",
    "reject", "discard"

    /tim
    --


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  • Rob Hackney at Apr 29, 2004 at 3:11 pm
    I've been asked to look into mass emailing software for my company.
    At present, we use a 3rd party to send html formatted emails to
    subscribed users and also offer an unsub link.
    I did look at Lyris Listmanager which was good but far too expensive.
    I need the program to do the following:
    send out html formatted emails to a list of subscribed users
    disallow replies to the from email address.
    create an auto unsub
    manage bounces/ non-deliverables

    I'd like to be able to track the messages tho this isn't strictly
    necessary.

    I have told my boss that I think postfix + mailman can do this
    (oh yeah did I say I have to do this at 0 cost ;-)
    Am I right? I've just installed mailman and am currently configuring
    and testing it but don't want to waste my time if it is not suitable.
    My main concern is sending out the emails and making sure that this
    isn't a group to reply to.
    One other thing: this will need to work on a network which currently
    has an ms exch server handling out two domains;
    dom1.co.uk
    dom2.co.uk
    It is vital that the email comes from newsletters at dom2.co.uk
    This is currently an exch mailbox.
    thanks



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