Hi mailman-users,

I am a brand new Mailman 2.1.2 site administrator / list owner who has migrated
one old Majordomo mailing list and plans to create several additional lists.

One of my subscribers of my new Mailman list complained about missing a message
from Mailman. I had no idea there was a problem until she complained. I then
dug through my sendmail logs and saw that her remote MTA had transiently
returned a "Service unavailable" status.

I then went into Mailman and looked up the subscriber's info. Mailman had
dutifully incremented her bounce count to 1.0.

But I had absolutely no notification of any problems until the subscriber
complained, and that lack of notification is a big problem for these particular
mailing lists which are private with a small number of subscribers but feature
highly time-sensitive content.

For these mailing lists I am willing to have the list owner receive copies of
all MAILER-DAEMON etc bounce messages. Yet I cannot find any way in the
Mailman docs of accomplishing this (unless I have missed something). If I
disable automatic bounce processing, the docs say the MAILER-DAEMON messages
are still discarded, which doesn't help me.

Alternatively I would be happy to have Mailman just send the *first*
MAILER-DAEMON bounce message for a subscriber to the list owner.

Is there any tweaking I can do to either the automatic bounce processing
parameters or my aliases file that will get Mailman to promptly tell me when a
user is having a bounce problem? Yes, I could set the bounce score threshold
down to 0, but that's a little extreme since I don't really want the user's
subscription to be disabled at this point in order just to get a problem
notification about a bounce situation that would likely be merely transient for
my particular set of subscribers.

mark at bixby.org
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  • Michael dunston at Sep 10, 2003 at 4:58 pm
    I am running Mailman 2.1.1 on OSXS 10.2.6. I has been performing
    flawlessly for months and for some reason it has stopped delivery of
    mail to a single list. all of the other lists appear to be working
    fine. There are no stuck lockfiles and traceback message below was sent
    out this morning so I suspect there might be a relationship between the
    list not delivering mail and this error. Could this be the result of
    some sort of (possibly malformed) 'stuck' message somewhere? Any
    suggestions on where to look for more clues would be appreciated.

    Subject: [Mailman] Cron <mailman at server> /usr/bin/python -S
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 94, in ?
    File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 86, in main
    File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 60, in
    ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
    File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 123, in
    send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
    File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 303, in
    print >> plainmsg, msg.get_payload(decode=1)
    UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    -- Michael Dunston
    -- Music and Technology
    -- <http://www.music.vt.edu>
    -- Virginia Tech School of the Arts

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