I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to subscribe
to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I have missed
any that would be helpful please say.

I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
@400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
@400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
<j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
@400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
@400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
@400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
@400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
@400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

Which contain:
From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
id 17pPLd-00055v-00
for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10 +0100
Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
Subject: test
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

test
-------------------------------//E-oF

AND

{s
-----------------------------//E-of

I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing whoami) I get
this

# At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests
0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
#
# Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
delivery.
0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
#
# 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
#
# Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out
# if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now,
# or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
/home/mailman/cron/gate_news
#
# At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only
# turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
# GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
#
# Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
* * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

I look in the cron logs:

Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
(/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
/usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
(/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
/usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
(/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
(/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
Think thats it.........

I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not getting any
messages.........

HELP!

Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system as
suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key words
qmail and bsd.

Cheers
John Wards
SportNetwork.net

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  • John Wards at Sep 12, 2002 at 4:01 pm
    Hmmm sorry if anyone got this twice.....I had to send it again as I never
    got it through......

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I have missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10 +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing whoami) I get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not getting any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net


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  • John Wards at Sep 13, 2002 at 8:22 am
    Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it is
    impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone please recomend
    another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have hunted and
    hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to emails like
    this!

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I have missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10 +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing whoami) I get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not getting any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net


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  • Jon Carnes at Sep 13, 2002 at 2:36 pm
    So is the problem that the mail is simply sitting in the Mailman queue
    directory without being delivered?

    Try running qrunner by hand:
    su - mailman
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    Check your qmail log files before and after running the above. Do the
    same with your mailman log files.

    Good Luck

    Jon Carnes
    ===
    On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 04:22, John Wards wrote:
    Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it is
    impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone please recomend
    another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have hunted and
    hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to emails like
    this!

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I have missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10 +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing whoami) I get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not getting any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net


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  • John Wards at Sep 13, 2002 at 2:58 pm
    I do this:
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron qrunner

    I get this out!

    ??crontab.in
    ^
    SyntaxError: invalid syntax

    Any clues?
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    So is the problem that the mail is simply sitting in the Mailman queue
    directory without being delivered?

    Try running qrunner by hand:
    su - mailman
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    Check your qmail log files before and after running the above. Do the
    same with your mailman log files.

    Good Luck

    Jon Carnes
    ===
    On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 04:22, John Wards wrote:
    Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it is
    impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone please
    recomend
    another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have hunted and
    hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to emails like
    this!

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I have missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002
    08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10 +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing whoami) I
    get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one
    out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right
    now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not
    getting
    any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key
    words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net


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  • Ron Jarrell at Sep 13, 2002 at 2:59 pm

    At 03:58 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
    I do this:
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron qrunner

    I get this out!

    ??crontab.in
    ^
    SyntaxError: invalid syntax

    Any clues?

    Yea... Re-read the example below and fix your typo :-). There's no space
    between cron and qrunner, it's a slash... You told it to run a directory,
    and python is finding the internal binary format of the directory entries
    to be not very understandable as source code.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    So is the problem that the mail is simply sitting in the Mailman queue
    directory without being delivered?

    Try running qrunner by hand:
    su - mailman
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    Check your qmail log files before and after running the above. Do the
    same with your mailman log files.

    Good Luck

    Jon Carnes
    ===
    On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 04:22, John Wards wrote:
    Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it is
    impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone please
    recomend
    another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have hunted and
    hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to emails like
    this!

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I have missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002
    08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10 +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing whoami) I
    get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one
    out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right
    now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not
    getting
    any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key
    words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net


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  • John Wards at Sep 13, 2002 at 3:09 pm
    ooooooops.......sorry about that

    Re did it and got this this time:

    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 276, in ?
    lock.lock(timeout=0.5)
    File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
    self.__write()
    File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
    fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
    IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
    '/home/mailman/locks/qrunner.lock.www.sportnetwork.net.19751'

    elp!
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ron Jarrell" <jarrell at vt.edu>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:59 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    At 03:58 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
    I do this:
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron qrunner

    I get this out!

    ??crontab.in
    ^
    SyntaxError: invalid syntax

    Any clues?

    Yea... Re-read the example below and fix your typo :-). There's no space
    between cron and qrunner, it's a slash... You told it to run a directory,
    and python is finding the internal binary format of the directory entries
    to be not very understandable as source code.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    So is the problem that the mail is simply sitting in the Mailman queue
    directory without being delivered?

    Try running qrunner by hand:
    su - mailman
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    Check your qmail log files before and after running the above. Do the
    same with your mailman log files.

    Good Luck

    Jon Carnes
    ===
    On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 04:22, John Wards wrote:
    Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it is
    impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone please
    recomend
    another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have hunted
    and
    hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to emails
    like
    this!

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I
    have
    missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002
    08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10
    +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing
    whoami) I
    get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending
    requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as
    threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this
    one
    out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on
    right
    now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of
    polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not
    getting
    any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system
    as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key
    words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net


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  • Ron Jarrell at Sep 13, 2002 at 3:16 pm
    You've screwed your permissions up (or ran some portion of mailman as the
    wrong user - accidentally running stuff as root can do it, because most of
    mailman runs as mailman.)

    qrunner can't write it's lock file, so you're queue isn't running.

    run /home/mailman/bin/check_perms and see what it bitches about. You'll
    probably end up running it as root with the "-f" option to fix things. You
    might need to run it more than once in a row, until it stops complaining
    about things.
    At 04:09 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
    ooooooops.......sorry about that

    Re did it and got this this time:

    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 276, in ?
    lock.lock(timeout=0.5)
    File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
    self.__write()
    File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
    fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
    IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
    '/home/mailman/locks/qrunner.lock.www.sportnetwork.net.19751'

    elp!
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ron Jarrell" <jarrell at vt.edu>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:59 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    At 03:58 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
    I do this:
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron qrunner

    I get this out!

    ??crontab.in
    ^
    SyntaxError: invalid syntax

    Any clues?

    Yea... Re-read the example below and fix your typo :-). There's no space
    between cron and qrunner, it's a slash... You told it to run a directory,
    and python is finding the internal binary format of the directory entries
    to be not very understandable as source code.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    So is the problem that the mail is simply sitting in the Mailman queue
    directory without being delivered?

    Try running qrunner by hand:
    su - mailman
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    Check your qmail log files before and after running the above. Do the
    same with your mailman log files.

    Good Luck

    Jon Carnes
    ===
    On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 04:22, John Wards wrote:
    Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it is
    impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone please
    recomend
    another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have hunted
    and
    hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to emails
    like
    this!

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I
    have
    missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002
    08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10
    +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing
    whoami) I
    get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending
    requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as
    threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this
    one
    out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on
    right
    now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of
    polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not
    getting
    any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system
    as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key
    words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
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  • John Wards at Sep 13, 2002 at 3:37 pm
    Hmmm right I run and re run check_perms and it cam up with some problems to
    begin with but i fixed them and its not coming up with any more. I am still
    getting the error message when i run the qrunner as mail man.

    A stab in the dark made me run it as root and it work fine.

    Now is there any big problem running the cron jobs as root?

    Cheers
    John
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ron Jarrell" <jarrell at vt.edu>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:16 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    You've screwed your permissions up (or ran some portion of mailman as the
    wrong user - accidentally running stuff as root can do it, because most of
    mailman runs as mailman.)

    qrunner can't write it's lock file, so you're queue isn't running.

    run /home/mailman/bin/check_perms and see what it bitches about. You'll
    probably end up running it as root with the "-f" option to fix things. You
    might need to run it more than once in a row, until it stops complaining
    about things.
    At 04:09 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
    ooooooops.......sorry about that

    Re did it and got this this time:

    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 276, in ?
    lock.lock(timeout=0.5)
    File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
    self.__write()
    File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
    fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
    IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
    '/home/mailman/locks/qrunner.lock.www.sportnetwork.net.19751'

    elp!
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ron Jarrell" <jarrell at vt.edu>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:59 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    At 03:58 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
    I do this:
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron qrunner

    I get this out!

    ??crontab.in
    ^
    SyntaxError: invalid syntax

    Any clues?

    Yea... Re-read the example below and fix your typo :-). There's no
    space
    between cron and qrunner, it's a slash... You told it to run a
    directory,
    and python is finding the internal binary format of the directory
    entries
    to be not very understandable as source code.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    So is the problem that the mail is simply sitting in the Mailman
    queue
    directory without being delivered?

    Try running qrunner by hand:
    su - mailman
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    Check your qmail log files before and after running the above. Do
    the
    same with your mailman log files.

    Good Luck

    Jon Carnes
    ===
    On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 04:22, John Wards wrote:
    Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it
    is
    impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone
    please
    recomend
    another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have
    hunted
    and
    hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to
    emails
    like
    this!

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply
    to
    subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If
    I
    have
    missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to
    local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002
    08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002
    08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13
    +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk
    [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
    g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10
    +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing
    whoami) I
    get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending
    requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as
    threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password
    reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment
    this
    one
    out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going
    on
    right
    now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of
    polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * *
    /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file.
    Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python
    /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am
    not
    getting
    any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my
    system
    as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the
    key
    words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net


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  • Jon Carnes at Sep 15, 2002 at 3:42 am
    Sorry to be late in getting back. What you have found out is that BSD
    is much more secure than Linux with its filesystem. I believe there is
    a BSD readme that talks about how to set the rights properly. It may be
    that your Set GID does not work for the directories that Mailman needs
    to access as Mailman (or it may not work at all in your version of
    BSD). In particular is the problem with your locking directory. If you
    can set that to rights you are golden.

    Yes you could run the cron jobs as root for now, but that is a poor
    policy and could open you up to some vulnerabilities or exploits. None
    that I know of mind you, but I sure wouldn't advertise what server your
    lists were running on...

    Rather than run as root, I think I would modify the directories that
    Mailman needs to access and simply set them so that anyone had full
    rights over them. This is still bad, but a degree better than running
    Mailman as root...

    Good Luck - Jon Carnes
    On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 11:37, John Wards wrote:
    Hmmm right I run and re run check_perms and it cam up with some problems to
    begin with but i fixed them and its not coming up with any more. I am still
    getting the error message when i run the qrunner as mail man.

    A stab in the dark made me run it as root and it work fine.

    Now is there any big problem running the cron jobs as root?

    Cheers
    John
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ron Jarrell" <jarrell at vt.edu>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:16 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    You've screwed your permissions up (or ran some portion of mailman as the
    wrong user - accidentally running stuff as root can do it, because most of
    mailman runs as mailman.)

    qrunner can't write it's lock file, so you're queue isn't running.

    run /home/mailman/bin/check_perms and see what it bitches about. You'll
    probably end up running it as root with the "-f" option to fix things. You
    might need to run it more than once in a row, until it stops complaining
    about things.
    At 04:09 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
    ooooooops.......sorry about that

    Re did it and got this this time:

    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 276, in ?
    lock.lock(timeout=0.5)
    File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
    self.__write()
    File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
    fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
    IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
    '/home/mailman/locks/qrunner.lock.www.sportnetwork.net.19751'

    elp!
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ron Jarrell" <jarrell at vt.edu>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:59 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    At 03:58 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
    I do this:
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron qrunner

    I get this out!

    ??crontab.in
    ^
    SyntaxError: invalid syntax

    Any clues?

    Yea... Re-read the example below and fix your typo :-). There's no
    space
    between cron and qrunner, it's a slash... You told it to run a
    directory,
    and python is finding the internal binary format of the directory
    entries
    to be not very understandable as source code.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
    To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
    Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

    So is the problem that the mail is simply sitting in the Mailman
    queue
    directory without being delivered?

    Try running qrunner by hand:
    su - mailman
    /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    Check your qmail log files before and after running the above. Do
    the
    same with your mailman log files.

    Good Luck

    Jon Carnes
    ===
    On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 04:22, John Wards wrote:
    Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it
    is
    impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone
    please
    recomend
    another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have
    hunted
    and
    hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to
    emails
    like
    this!

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net

    I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply
    to
    subscribe
    to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If
    I
    have
    missed
    any that would be helpful please say.

    I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
    @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
    @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
    <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
    @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to
    local
    mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
    @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
    @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898

    I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:

    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
    8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db

    Which contain:
    From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
    Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
    Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002
    08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
    by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002
    08:32:03 -0000
    Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
    by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
    id 17pPLd-00055v-00
    for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13
    +0100
    Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk
    [194.222.172.210])
    by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id
    g8C8T8512838
    for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10
    +0100
    Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
    From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
    To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
    Subject: test
    Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    X-Priority: 3
    X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

    test
    -------------------------------//E-oF

    AND

    {s
    -----------------------------//E-of

    I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing
    whoami) I
    get
    this

    # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending
    requests
    0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
    #
    # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as
    threshhold
    delivery.
    0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
    #
    # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password
    reminders.
    0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
    #
    # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment
    this
    one
    out
    # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going
    on
    right
    now,
    # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of
    polling.
    0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * *
    /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
    #
    # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file.
    Only
    # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
    # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
    27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
    /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
    #
    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner

    I look in the cron logs:

    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
    /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/libexec/atrun)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
    /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
    Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
    (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
    Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
    Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
    (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)

    oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
    preline /usr/local/bin/python
    /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
    Think thats it.........

    I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am
    not
    getting
    any
    messages.........

    HELP!

    Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my
    system
    as
    suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the
    key
    words
    qmail and bsd.

    Cheers
    John Wards
    SportNetwork.net


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