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I've got some fairly high-traffic mailing lists (sunmanagers, with ~3K
members, sunhelp with ~1K, and 3 or 4 others with ~500 members).

Upgraded to Python 2.0 this morning, and recompiled/reinstalled
mailman 2.0.3 along with it (had already been running this version,
but I figure recompiling/installing it along with the new python
wouldnt hurt). I started getting a lot *more* of these in
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner than normal:

Mar 23 10:47:06 2001 (29208) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 10:48:03 2001 (29234) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 10:49:01 2001 (29246) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 10:50:04 2001 (29272) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 10:51:02 2001 (29300) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 10:52:02 2001 (29313) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 10:53:03 2001 (29325) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 10:54:02 2001 (29336) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 10:55:03 2001 (29381) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 11:01:03 2001 (29527) Could not acquire qrunner lock

At this point, I looked at the crontab, and changed the qrunner
line to this (I figured it was trying too often):

# Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
1,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner

Now, I'm seeing this in qrunner:

Mar 23 11:15:03 2001 (29811) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/
32cc45c1b567ea4a21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32cc45c1b567ea4a
21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560.db'
Mar 23 11:30:04 2001 (199) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 11:45:02 2001 (426) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32
cc45c1b567ea4a21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32cc45c1b567ea4a
21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560.db'
Mar 23 12:01:04 2001 (784) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 12:15:02 2001 (1043) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/3
2cc45c1b567ea4a21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32cc45c1b567ea4a
21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560.db'
Mar 23 12:30:04 2001 (1422) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Mar 23 12:45:02 2001 (1644) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/3
2cc45c1b567ea4a21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32cc45c1b567ea4a
21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560.db'

Mail is getting through, although sometimes mail I sent to a small list
(< 100 members) might take 5-6 hours to arrive - and this is to my account
on the *local machine*. Any suggestions? Seems I've been seeing these
delays since upgrading > 2.0.1.

MTA is Sendmail 8.11.x, local delivery agent for local mail is procmail.
OS is Solaris 8, on a 300Mhz SPARC AXe-based machine with 128MB of RAM,
and plenty of drive space.

Thanks.

Bill

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mrbill at mrbill.net
Austin, TX

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  • Dave Klingler at Mar 23, 2001 at 7:10 pm
    Sounds like you've got some permissions set wrong, Bill. Having qrunner
    run once a minute works pretty well, btw. It keeps the queue small and the
    overhead is minimal.

    Dave Klingler
    I've got some fairly high-traffic mailing lists (sunmanagers, with ~3K
    members, sunhelp with ~1K, and 3 or 4 others with ~500 members).

    Upgraded to Python 2.0 this morning, and recompiled/reinstalled
    mailman 2.0.3 along with it (had already been running this version,
    but I figure recompiling/installing it along with the new python
    wouldnt hurt). I started getting a lot *more* of these in
    /usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner than normal:

    Mar 23 10:47:06 2001 (29208) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 10:48:03 2001 (29234) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 10:49:01 2001 (29246) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 10:50:04 2001 (29272) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 10:51:02 2001 (29300) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 10:52:02 2001 (29313) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 10:53:03 2001 (29325) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 10:54:02 2001 (29336) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 10:55:03 2001 (29381) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 11:01:03 2001 (29527) Could not acquire qrunner lock

    At this point, I looked at the crontab, and changed the qrunner
    line to this (I figured it was trying too often):

    # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
    1,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner

    Now, I'm seeing this in qrunner:

    Mar 23 11:15:03 2001 (29811) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/
    32cc45c1b567ea4a21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560
    [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32cc45c1b567ea4a
    21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560.db'
    Mar 23 11:30:04 2001 (199) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 11:45:02 2001 (426) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32
    cc45c1b567ea4a21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560
    [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32cc45c1b567ea4a
    21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560.db'
    Mar 23 12:01:04 2001 (784) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 12:15:02 2001 (1043) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/3
    2cc45c1b567ea4a21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560
    [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32cc45c1b567ea4a
    21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560.db'
    Mar 23 12:30:04 2001 (1422) Could not acquire qrunner lock
    Mar 23 12:45:02 2001 (1644) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/3
    2cc45c1b567ea4a21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560
    [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/32cc45c1b567ea4a
    21478ea362d26fe7cfae5560.db'

    Mail is getting through, although sometimes mail I sent to a small list
    (< 100 members) might take 5-6 hours to arrive - and this is to my account
    on the *local machine*. Any suggestions? Seems I've been seeing these
    delays since upgrading > 2.0.1.

    MTA is Sendmail 8.11.x, local delivery agent for local mail is procmail.
    OS is Solaris 8, on a 300Mhz SPARC AXe-based machine with 128MB of RAM,
    and plenty of drive space.

    Thanks.

    Bill

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    Bill Bradford
    mrbill at mrbill.net
    Austin, TX

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