All,

We really need an "about 9.0" two-sided color flyer design. Note that
this does not need to be fact-heavy; last year's 8.4 design was mostly
pictures and a little bit of text.

We can do a professional illustrator or photographs if required; please
sketch these in your design and we can fill them in.

It would be strongly preferred if you could use open source tools
(Inkscape, Scribus, etc.) if possible, as it would make the flyer more
accessible to translators. But don't make doing so a gating factor.

And we could use it soon!

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  • Selena Deckelmann at Aug 8, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
    All,

    We really need an "about 9.0" two-sided color flyer design.  Note that
    this does not need to be fact-heavy; last year's 8.4 design was mostly
    pictures and a little bit of text.
    BTW - Gabrielle worked on some features fliers. I think she uploaded
    them to the wiki. That could be a starting point for something.

    -selena
  • Rob Napier at Aug 8, 2010 at 8:31 pm
    Let me know if you'd like me to do it. I'd be using InDesign but would be happy to set up multiple language versions if you can supply the translations.

    Getting the translations done is more problematic than doing the layout.

    To make changes later, any pdf editor would do the job.

    Whoever does it, I suggest that the direction I took with the intro to the features list on the wiki be adopted for the brochure: professional but able to be understood by people who don't have in-depth knowledge of PostgreSQL.


    Rob Napier

    www.oncetechnologies.com

    On 09/08/2010, at 5:40 AM, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
    On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
    All,

    We really need an "about 9.0" two-sided color flyer design. Note that
    this does not need to be fact-heavy; last year's 8.4 design was mostly
    pictures and a little bit of text.
    BTW - Gabrielle worked on some features fliers. I think she uploaded
    them to the wiki. That could be a starting point for something.

    -selena


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  • Josh Berkus at Aug 8, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    On 8/8/10 1:30 PM, Rob Napier wrote:
    Let me know if you'd like me to do it. I'd be using InDesign but would be happy to set up multiple language versions if you can supply the translations.
    Sure. Please start by sketching an idea rather than spending a lot of
    time in indesign. We'll want to discuss ideas a bunch.

    Ideally, I'd like to have ideas from several people.

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  • Rob Napier at Aug 9, 2010 at 10:16 pm
    Marketing 101

    What is the Unique Selling Proposition that PostgreSQL 9.0 makes?

    As a potential user What's in it for me?

    What are the key Features and their associated Advantages and Benefits?

    Who is the target market?

    Do we focus on true believers or do we target non-believers?

    What is the competitive position?

    Rob Napier
    Managing Director
    once:technologies

    www.oncetechnologies.com

    On 09/08/2010, at 7:07 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
    On 8/8/10 1:30 PM, Rob Napier wrote:
    Let me know if you'd like me to do it. I'd be using InDesign but would be happy to set up multiple language versions if you can supply the translations.
    Sure. Please start by sketching an idea rather than spending a lot of
    time in indesign. We'll want to discuss ideas a bunch.

    Ideally, I'd like to have ideas from several people.

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  • Josh Berkus at Aug 9, 2010 at 10:47 pm
    Rob,
    What is the Unique Selling Proposition that PostgreSQL 9.0 makes?
    Binary Replication plus more features than any other OSDB.
    As a potential user What's in it for me?
    Features for your specific use case, whatever it is.
    What are the key Features and their associated Advantages and Benefits?
    Discussed on this list ad nauseum. I think we were going with "Binary
    replication + too many to list". Or we could go with the features we
    have quotes around.
    Who is the target market?

    Do we focus on true believers or do we target non-believers?
    Non-believers, but people who are looking at their database options.
    "If you tried PostgreSQL before, maybe it's time to try it again."
    What is the competitive position?
    Better than any other OSDB. Neck-and-neck with the top proprietary DBs.


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  • Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum at Aug 9, 2010 at 8:40 am
    Hi,
    On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:30:12 +1000 Rob Napier wrote:

    Getting the translations done is more problematic than doing the
    layout.
    I can help with the german translation. This should also cover austria
    and parts of switzerland.


    Bye

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  • Stéphane A. Schildknecht at Aug 13, 2010 at 10:19 am

    Le 09/08/2010 10:40, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum a écrit :

    Hi,
    On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:30:12 +1000 Rob Napier wrote:

    Getting the translations done is more problematic than doing the
    layout.
    I can help with the german translation. This should also cover austria
    and parts of switzerland.
    Same here with french translation.

    - --
    Stéphane Schildknecht
  • Gabrielle at Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
    On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
    All,

    We really need an "about 9.0" two-sided color flyer design.  Note that
    this does not need to be fact-heavy; last year's 8.4 design was mostly
    pictures and a little bit of text.
    BTW - Gabrielle worked on some features fliers. I think she uploaded
    them to the wiki. That could be a starting point for something.
    Yep - quick & dirty lists for OSCON. They are in the "Flyers"
    section: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Flyers

    Can I request that the final product of this goes on the wiki as well,
    so we can print them out if we need them locally?

    Thanks!

    gabrielle
  • Rob Napier at Aug 12, 2010 at 10:14 pm
    I can make time to work on this over the weekend. Who else wants to be involved? For me to do it, I would have to get it done and signed off on the weekend as I have a full dance card next week.

    If there is someone else who wants to do it, that's fine with me.

    Rob Napier
    Managing Director
    once:technologies

    www.oncetechnologies.com

    On 13/08/2010, at 3:39 AM, gabrielle wrote:

    On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Selena Deckelmann
    wrote:
    On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
    All,

    We really need an "about 9.0" two-sided color flyer design. Note that
    this does not need to be fact-heavy; last year's 8.4 design was mostly
    pictures and a little bit of text.
    BTW - Gabrielle worked on some features fliers. I think she uploaded
    them to the wiki. That could be a starting point for something.
    Yep - quick & dirty lists for OSCON. They are in the "Flyers"
    section: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Flyers

    Can I request that the final product of this goes on the wiki as well,
    so we can print them out if we need them locally?

    Thanks!

    gabrielle

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  • Selena Deckelmann at Aug 12, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Rob Napier wrote:
    I can make time to work on this over the weekend. Who else wants to be involved? For me to do it, I would have to get it done and signed off on the weekend as I have a full dance card next week.
    Would be great if you could put something out there in Illustrator (or
    whatever) and publish the source files so that others could build on
    it.

    Personally, I don't have free time this weekend to participate, but
    could put in some hours next week if I had something to build on.

    -selena
  • Joshua D. Drake at Aug 12, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:15 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
    On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Rob Napier wrote:
    I can make time to work on this over the weekend. Who else wants to be involved? For me to do it, I would have to get it done and signed off on the weekend as I have a full dance card next week.
    Would be great if you could put something out there in Illustrator (or
    whatever) and publish the source files so that others could build on
    it.
    We have illustrator files to the old one we used to use.... 4-5 pager?
    Personally, I don't have free time this weekend to participate, but
    could put in some hours next week if I had something to build on.

    -selena

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  • Josh Berkus at Aug 12, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    We have illustrator files to the old one we used to use.... 4-5 pager?
    You're thinking of something completely different. This is a PostgreSQL
    9.0 Flyer, not a "PostgreSQL Business Case" brochure.

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  • Josh Berkus at Aug 28, 2010 at 8:33 pm
    So? Anyone have any ideas, rough drafts, etc?

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  • Damien clochard at Sep 13, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Le 28/08/2010 22:33, Josh Berkus a écrit :
    So? Anyone have any ideas, rough drafts, etc?
    Here's my modest crontibution :

    http://nawak.taadeem.net/flyer_pg90.azur.draft1.pdf

    it's a A6 Format and two colors only. so that it will pretty easy and
    cheap to print it massively :)

    There's still lots of work to but the big ideas are here :

    * a funny picture on the Front which draws attention to main
    information (i.e "PG 9.0 is out")
    * 5 key features on the Back with twitter-like descriptions (200
    characters max. ).
    * a little bit of teasing in the 6th item ;-)
    * and finally the focus on the url where we want people to go

    Quickly i've chosen the 5 following items : HS, SR, 64bit win, inplace
    upgrade and grant/revoke on schema . Of course that can be discussed,
    i'm just the designer here.

    If you like this design, please give me :

    - the 5 key features we want to advertize
    - a char(200) description for each item
    - the url where we want people to go

    and of course, any comment on the design, colours, layout is more than
    welcome :)

    And i'll try to provide a final version before monday. I'm working with
    scribus 1.3.5 and i'll put the source files on wiki.postgresql.org under
    CC-BY-NC-SA licence

    Regards,

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  • Markus Wanner at Sep 14, 2010 at 12:31 pm
    Salut Damien,
    On 09/13/2010 05:05 PM, damien clochard wrote:
    http://nawak.taadeem.net/flyer_pg90.azur.draft1.pdf
    Very nice, thanks for sharing this.
    * a funny picture on the Front which draws attention to main
    information (i.e "PG 9.0 is out")
    I like the general idea, it certainly draws attention. But what's
    sticking out of the elephant shadow's proboscis at the very left?

    Otherwise, I like the simplicity of the flyer. I'd even vote for less
    words and more space at the borders of the second page.

    The font may not quite fulfill the "simplicity" idea. At least I find it
    somewhat hard to read.

    Regards

    Markus
  • Gabrielle at Sep 14, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Markus Wanner wrote:
    I like the general idea, it certainly draws attention. But what's sticking
    out of the elephant shadow's proboscis at the very left?
    Tusks, I bet.
    The font may not quite fulfill the "simplicity" idea. At least I find it
    somewhat hard to read.
    Agreed.

    Good stuff, Damien!

    gabrielle
  • Damien clochard at Sep 30, 2010 at 11:57 am

    Le 13/09/2010 17:05, damien clochard a écrit :
    Le 28/08/2010 22:33, Josh Berkus a écrit :
    So? Anyone have any ideas, rough drafts, etc?
    Here's a new version :

    http://nawak.taadeem.net/flyer_pg90.azur.draft2.pdf

    I added content from the "what's new" wiki page. Proofreading is more
    than welcome !

    I changed the font to Trebuchet which is more classic...

    Source files and scribus version are on the pg.fr git repo :

    http://github.com/postgresqlfr/pgfr_materials/tree/master/advocacy/flyers/9.0/en/
  • Josh Berkus at Oct 5, 2010 at 12:07 am

    This is looking pretty darned good. I'd like to improve some of the
    text formatting, though.

    Also, what do people think of the slogan "PostgreSQL's Great Leap
    Forwards"? It's been used a couple of times, but I'm concerned about
    offending Chinese and Chinese-American members of our community. How
    about, instead:

    PostgreSQL 9: Replication Made Easy (from the t-shirt)

    PostgreSQL Reloaded

    On Cloud 9 With PostgreSQL 9

    PostgreSQL Formula No. 9

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  • Selena Deckelmann at Oct 5, 2010 at 12:09 am

    On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:


    PostgreSQL 9: Replication Made Easy (from the t-shirt)
    Of those suggested, I like this one, especially paired with the shirt logo.

    -selena
  • Magnus Hagander at Oct 5, 2010 at 8:47 am

    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:07, Josh Berkus wrote:
    Here's a new version :

    http://nawak.taadeem.net/flyer_pg90.azur.draft2.pdf
    This is looking pretty darned good.  I'd like to improve some of the
    text formatting, though.
    Agreed.

    Once notice though - flyers generated like that can't be used
    commercially in any way (NC on the CC license). Does that mean they
    can't be handed out at a commercial conference? By vendors? To
    commercial customers?

    Also, what do people think of the slogan "PostgreSQL's Great Leap
    Forwards"?  It's been used a couple of times, but I'm concerned about
    offending Chinese and Chinese-American members of our community.  How
    Wow, I don't even understand why it would be offensive. But I don't
    doubt you when you say so. (feel free to explain off-list, but it's
    very much off-topic on list, I think)

    about, instead:

    PostgreSQL 9: Replication Made Easy (from the t-shirt)

    PostgreSQL Reloaded

    On Cloud 9 With PostgreSQL 9

    PostgreSQL Formula No. 9
    FWIW, I don't like any of those :(
  • Greg Smith at Oct 5, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Magnus Hagander wrote:
    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:07, Josh Berkus wrote:

    Also, what do people think of the slogan "PostgreSQL's Great Leap
    Forwards"? It's been used a couple of times, but I'm concerned about
    offending Chinese and Chinese-American members of our community. How
    Wow, I don't even understand why it would be offensive. But I don't
    doubt you when you say so. (feel free to explain off-list, but it's
    very much off-topic on list, I think)
    The explanation is pretty quick: the first paragraph of
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward tells why it's really
    not a good slogan to use. Lots of bad sentiment attached to that
    particular phrase. I like "Replication Made Easy" too.

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  • Raymond O'Donnell at Oct 5, 2010 at 10:29 am

    On 05/10/2010 11:22, Greg Smith wrote:
    Magnus Hagander wrote:
    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:07, Josh Berkus wrote:
    Also, what do people think of the slogan "PostgreSQL's Great Leap
    Forwards"? It's been used a couple of times, but I'm concerned about
    offending Chinese and Chinese-American members of our community. How
    Wow, I don't even understand why it would be offensive. But I don't
    doubt you when you say so. (feel free to explain off-list, but it's
    very much off-topic on list, I think)
    The explanation is pretty quick: the first paragraph of
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward tells why it's really
    not a good slogan to use. Lots of bad sentiment attached to that
    particular phrase. I like "Replication Made Easy" too.
    +1 on not using "Great Leap Forward".

    I like "PostgreSQL Reloaded" - but I'm a Matrix fan. :-)

    Ray.

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  • Thom Brown at Oct 5, 2010 at 10:31 am

    On 5 October 2010 11:29, Raymond O'Donnell wrote:
    On 05/10/2010 11:22, Greg Smith wrote:

    Magnus Hagander wrote:
    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:07, Josh Berkus wrote:

    Also, what do people think of the slogan "PostgreSQL's Great Leap
    Forwards"? It's been used a couple of times, but I'm concerned about
    offending Chinese and Chinese-American members of our community. How
    Wow, I don't even understand why it would be offensive. But I don't
    doubt you when you say so. (feel free to explain off-list, but it's
    very much off-topic on list, I think)
    The explanation is pretty quick: the first paragraph of
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward tells why it's really
    not a good slogan to use. Lots of bad sentiment attached to that
    particular phrase. I like "Replication Made Easy" too.
    +1 on not using "Great Leap Forward".

    I like "PostgreSQL Reloaded" - but I'm a Matrix fan. :-)
    And it's a prelude to a PostgreSQL Revolution ;)

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  • Peter Eisentraut at Oct 5, 2010 at 11:37 am

    On tis, 2010-10-05 at 11:30 +0100, Thom Brown wrote:
    +1 on not using "Great Leap Forward".

    I like "PostgreSQL Reloaded" - but I'm a Matrix fan. :-)
    And it's a prelude to a PostgreSQL Revolution ;)
    The revolution was before the Great Leap Forward. The next steps would
    be the Cultural Revolution and One Project, Two Systems.
  • Greg Sabino Mullane at Oct 5, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    I like "PostgreSQL Reloaded" - but I'm a Matrix fan. :-)
    And it's a prelude to a PostgreSQL Revolution ;)
    - -1 to both. Why would we want people to think our product got
    more confusing, inconsistent, and poorly written with each
    release? :)

    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.

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  • Thom Brown at Oct 5, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    On 5 October 2010 14:42, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
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    I like "PostgreSQL Reloaded" - but I'm a Matrix fan. :-)
    And it's a prelude to a PostgreSQL Revolution ;)
    - -1 to both. Why would we want people to think our product got
    more confusing, inconsistent, and poorly written with each
    release? :)

    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.
    Replication Out Of The Box?

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  • Kevin Grittner at Oct 5, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    "Greg Sabino Mullane" wrote:

    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.
    How about?:

    PostgreSQL -> Wired

    PostgreSQL -- Stand by, It's Hot!

    Streaming to What's Hot!

    -Kevin
  • Guillaume Lelarge at Oct 5, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Le 05/10/2010 15:48, Kevin Grittner a écrit :
    "Greg Sabino Mullane" wrote:
    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.
    How about?:

    PostgreSQL -> Wired -1
    PostgreSQL -- Stand by, It's Hot!
    Love this one.
    Streaming to What's Hot!
    Interesting, but less cooler than the previous one.
  • Korry Douglas at Oct 5, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.
    How about?:
    PostgreSQL - the best chance at replication that most geeks will ever
    get


    -- Korry
  • Selena Deckelmann at Oct 5, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Korry Douglas wrote:
    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.
    How about?:
    PostgreSQL - the best chance at replication that most geeks will ever get
    Har har. But not really true.

    Made a wiki page to hold inspiration:

    http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/AttemptsAtSlogans

    I didn't add them all. Feel free to add more!

    -selena
  • Joshua D. Drake at Oct 5, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 07:32 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Korry Douglas
    wrote:
    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.
    How about?:
    PostgreSQL - the best chance at replication that most geeks will ever get
    Har har. But not really true.
    Which is exactly why it is very funny. It is a stereotype we could
    exploit.

    JD
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  • Joshua D. Drake at Oct 5, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    Hello,

    For the tag line, we may want to consider something that is *not*
    directly about replication. This is not to disparage all the hard work
    that has gone into the feature but it is a first release and has some
    significant draw backs that make it useful only for a small subset of
    workloads.

    We don't want to over-hype something just to have it come back at us.

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  • Magnus Hagander at Oct 5, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 18:07, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
    Hello,

    For the tag line, we may want to consider something that is *not*
    directly about replication. This is not to disparage all the hard work
    that has gone into the feature but it is a first release and has some
    significant draw backs that make it useful only for a small subset of
    workloads.

    We don't want to over-hype something just to have it come back at us.
    +1!
  • Chris Browne at Oct 5, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    "Kevin Grittner" writes:
    "Greg Sabino Mullane" wrote:
    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.
    How about?:

    PostgreSQL -> Wired

    PostgreSQL -- Stand by, It's Hot!

    Streaming to What's Hot!
    I remember a similar discussion not vastly long ago that headed down
    into the gutter...

    <http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-advocacy/2010-01/msg00177.php>
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  • Selena Deckelmann at Oct 5, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Chris Browne wrote:

    I remember a similar discussion not vastly long ago that headed down
    into the gutter...
    Yeah, let's not go there.

    Please add more slogans to the wiki!

    http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/AttemptsAtSlogans

    -selena
  • Josh Berkus at Oct 5, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Yeah, let's not go there.

    Please add more slogans to the wiki!

    http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/AttemptsAtSlogans
    Of course, it now occurs to me that none of these slogans match the picture.

    Perhaps we should use:

    "Why Leading Geeks Rely On PostgreSQL 9"

    ... or similar.

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  • Bruce Momjian at Oct 19, 2010 at 3:21 am

    Kevin Grittner wrote:
    "Greg Sabino Mullane" wrote:
    Replication Made Easy is the best of the bunch, although I think
    we could do better than that.
    How about?: ...
    PostgreSQL -- Stand by, It's Hot!
    +1 on creativity for this one, and I can think of some nice images.

    --
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    EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

    + It's impossible for everything to be true. +
  • Chris Browne at Oct 5, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    Thom Brown writes:
    On 5 October 2010 11:29, Raymond O'Donnell wrote:
    On 05/10/2010 11:22, Greg Smith wrote:
    I like "PostgreSQL Reloaded" - but I'm a Matrix fan. :-)
    And it's a prelude to a PostgreSQL Revolution ;)
    "I forgot how good that movie was."

    "Too bad they never made any sequels."

    "True."

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  • Peter Eisentraut at Oct 5, 2010 at 11:29 am

    On tis, 2010-10-05 at 06:22 -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
    I like "Replication Made Easy" too.
    How about "Replication Made Possible" instead? Save "Easy" for version
    9.2.
  • Thom Brown at Oct 5, 2010 at 11:35 am

    On 5 October 2010 12:29, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
    On tis, 2010-10-05 at 06:22 -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
    I like "Replication Made Easy" too.
    How about "Replication Made Possible" instead?  Save "Easy" for version
    9.2.
    Replication was possible before though. Saying it's "possible"
    suggests it's not necessarily straightforward to set up."

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  • Magnus Hagander at Oct 5, 2010 at 11:37 am

    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 13:33, Thom Brown wrote:
    On 5 October 2010 12:29, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
    On tis, 2010-10-05 at 06:22 -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
    I like "Replication Made Easy" too.
    How about "Replication Made Possible" instead?  Save "Easy" for version
    9.2.
    Replication was possible before though.  Saying it's "possible"
    suggests it's not necessarily straightforward to set up."
    It's not necessarily easy now, and it was not necessarily non-easy
    before. It depends very much on the situation...
  • Damien at Oct 5, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Magnus Hagander a écrit :
    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:07, Josh Berkus wrote:
    Here's a new version :

    http://nawak.taadeem.net/flyer_pg90.azur.draft2.pdf
    This is looking pretty darned good. I'd like to improve some of the
    text formatting, though.
    Agreed.

    Once notice though - flyers generated like that can't be used
    commercially in any way (NC on the CC license). Does that mean they
    can't be handed out at a commercial conference? By vendors? To
    commercial customers?
    BY-NC-SA is needed because the image itself is BY-NC-SA. If i had the
    choice i would have put it under BY-SA. I'm open to any other CC
    licensed media that could replace the current pictures.

    Anyway my understanding is that the purpose of this flyer is already
    "non commercial" because it advertise a new version a free software
    build by a community that doesn't have any commercial activities.

    So as a company you can distribute this document to your customers, the
    purpose of the flyer remains "non commercial"....

    What you can't do is modify the document to add your company logo or
    describe your company services inside the flyer. I'm not sur this is a
    problem, if it is i can release a BY-SA version of the flyer without the
    front image.


    Also, what do people think of the slogan "PostgreSQL's Great Leap
    Forwards"? It's been used a couple of times, but I'm concerned about
    offending Chinese and Chinese-American members of our community. How
    FTR, i found the expression "Great Leap Forward" in the "what's new"
    page on the wiki :

    http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/What%27s_new_in_PostgreSQL_9.0#Streaming_Replication

    I was also incomfortable with this expression so i removed the "Forward"
    in the flyer. I was thinking that it would then be closer the Neil's
    Armstrong "Great Leap for Mankind" but obviously it didn't work that way :)

    I'm ok to remove completely that expression and replace it by :

    "Streaming Replication is the second half of PostgreSQL's new redundancy
    system"

    Thanks for the comments and feedback !
  • Magnus Hagander at Oct 5, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 15:44, damien@dalibo.info wrote:
    Magnus Hagander a écrit :
    On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:07, Josh Berkus wrote:
    Here's a new version :

    http://nawak.taadeem.net/flyer_pg90.azur.draft2.pdf
    This is looking pretty darned good.  I'd like to improve some of the
    text formatting, though.
    Agreed.

    Once notice though - flyers generated like that can't be used
    commercially in any way (NC on the CC license). Does that mean they
    can't be handed out at a commercial conference? By vendors? To
    commercial customers?
    BY-NC-SA is needed because the image itself is BY-NC-SA. If i had the
    choice i would have put it under BY-SA. I'm open to any other CC
    licensed media that could replace the current pictures.
    Yes, I know - I'm just wondering if that's going to give us trouble.

    Anyway my understanding is that the purpose of this flyer is already
    "non commercial" because it advertise a new version a free software
    build by a community that doesn't have any commercial activities.

    So as a company you can distribute this document to your customers, the
    purpose of the flyer remains "non commercial"....

    What you can't do is modify the document to add your company logo or
    describe your company services inside the flyer. I'm not sur this is a
    problem, if it is i can release a BY-SA version of the flyer without the
    front image.
    I don't think that's a problem, actually, but we need to be very clear about it.
  • MattK at Oct 19, 2010 at 5:00 pm
    Anything but "On Cloud" - not everything needs to be about "The
    Cloud" ;)
  • Josh Berkus at Oct 19, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    On 10/19/10 9:53 AM, MattK wrote:
    Anything but "On Cloud" - not everything needs to be about "The
    Cloud" ;)
    Oh, great idea!

    "On Cloud 9 With Postgres 9"

    We'd need a new graphic, though ...

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  • David Fetter at Oct 20, 2010 at 8:06 am

    On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 03:59:30PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
    On 10/19/10 9:53 AM, MattK wrote:
    Anything but "On Cloud" - not everything needs to be about "The
    Cloud" ;)
    Oh, great idea!

    "On Cloud 9 With Postgres 9"

    We'd need a new graphic, though ...
    We could even have a little music to go with it. What could possibly
    be appropriate for a database with excellent access control?

    What indeed?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq3YdpB6N9M

    Cheers,
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  • Damien clochard at Oct 17, 2010 at 3:45 pm
    Hi guys,

    Here's the last revision :

    http://nawak.taadeem.net/fly_pg_90.azur.en.draft5.pdf

    Quick Changelog :

    * removed any reference to any "Leap" or whatsoever...
    * put "UNIQUE" in capitalized letters
    * added exclusion constraints in the last section
    * used the correct "Oracle Data Guard" name and added ® behind it
    * using small capitals for VACUUM FULL. looks nicer.
    * small fixes in the vertical alignment for the text blocks...

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