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So you say that you don't have the time to answer my questions?
Given the fact that this is an open source project I think it is pretty
reasonable to know that where is the development happening.
I will refrain from replying to your personal comments, they have nothing
to do with the topic brought up here, I would be happy if you could also do
the same.

To summarize, I just find it weird what you did here, not informing the
team that you are "freezing" the code in svn, that you move the development
from svn.php.net, and when asked to what is happening, and what is the
plan, you simply won't answer those questions.

I think that those changes can be seen as the development of peclweb isn't
part of the php.net project anymore:
- it is developed outside of the php infrastructure
- it has it's own ACL, where the former contributors have no commit access
- the changes aren't peer reviewed(sent to the mailing list) anymore.
etc.

I don't mind those changes if peclweb is your personal project, but I was
in the belief that it is part of the php project.

ps: cross-posting to internals, as I think this issue needs more visibility.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:

tyrael,

it is really nice and shiny to see you posting everywhere about
everything but there are times to chat and to work.

When it is ready to move the wiki will be updated accordingly and we
really do not need to waste our precious free time to argue with you,
unless you actually do something in this area (and not leaving in the
middle of the work like the last time) thanks.

Cheers,
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
Hi Pierre,

Could you elaborate on this?
See previous mail on the list. peclweb as of now is frozen and won't
change ever.

By "frozen" and "won't change ever" you referring to the svn
repo(web/pecl/trunk), right?
That means the the development of http://pecl.php.net/ will happen
elsewhere, right?
I mean it is highly unlikely that the development on the site itself will be
frozen (it would no sense, and as I noticed you working on the site on
github).

So if the development is active, but the svn repo is abadoned, my questions
are still not answered:
Whats the roadmap then?
Will you keep the peclweb development
there(https://github.com/pierrejoye/peclweb), or you will merge the changes
back to svn.php.net, or maybe move that repo under http://github.com/php ?
As I said, the wiki should be updated to reflect this, and it should
describe how can one contribute to the development of peclweb, as now it
will be different than the other sites.

Tyrael


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  • Johannes Schlüter at Dec 7, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 14:11 +0100, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
    So you say that you don't have the time to answer my questions?
    Given the fact that this is an open source project I think it is pretty
    reasonable to know that where is the development happening.
    I will refrain from replying to your personal comments, they have nothing
    to do with the topic brought up here, I would be happy if you could also do
    the same.

    To summarize, I just find it weird what you did here, not informing the
    team that you are "freezing" the code in svn, that you move the development
    from svn.php.net, and when asked to what is happening, and what is the
    plan, you simply won't answer those questions.

    I think that those changes can be seen as the development of peclweb isn't
    part of the php.net project anymore:
    - it is developed outside of the php infrastructure
    - it has it's own ACL, where the former contributors have no commit access
    - the changes aren't peer reviewed(sent to the mailing list) anymore.
    etc.

    I don't mind those changes if peclweb is your personal project, but I was
    in the belief that it is part of the php project.
    I didn't follow this closely as I was told not to "waste my time on
    peclweb" when I did some minor updates in August 2010.

    But I agree: Major changes should be announced on the list. Additionally
    I find it strange when single parts move to git, while there is a
    migration project going on. I think this should happen in a similar way
    for all repos not each part in a different way.

    Additionally it seems that https://github.com/pierrejoye/peclweb/ seems
    to be owned by a single person, not the php user on github.

    johannes
    ps: cross-posting to internals, as I think this issue needs more visibility.
    On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:

    tyrael,

    it is really nice and shiny to see you posting everywhere about
    everything but there are times to chat and to work.

    When it is ready to move the wiki will be updated accordingly and we
    really do not need to waste our precious free time to argue with you,
    unless you actually do something in this area (and not leaving in the
    middle of the work like the last time) thanks.

    Cheers,
    On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:


    On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
    Hi Pierre,

    Could you elaborate on this?
    See previous mail on the list. peclweb as of now is frozen and won't
    change ever.

    By "frozen" and "won't change ever" you referring to the svn
    repo(web/pecl/trunk), right?
    That means the the development of http://pecl.php.net/ will happen
    elsewhere, right?
    I mean it is highly unlikely that the development on the site itself will be
    frozen (it would no sense, and as I noticed you working on the site on
    github).

    So if the development is active, but the svn repo is abadoned, my questions
    are still not answered:
    Whats the roadmap then?
    Will you keep the peclweb development
    there(https://github.com/pierrejoye/peclweb), or you will merge the changes
    back to svn.php.net, or maybe move that repo under http://github.com/php ?
    As I said, the wiki should be updated to reflect this, and it should
    describe how can one contribute to the development of peclweb, as now it
    will be different than the other sites.

    Tyrael


    --
    Pierre

    @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org

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    PECL CVS Mailing List
    To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
  • Pierre Joye at Dec 7, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    again, it was told, many times.



    2011/12/7 Johannes Schlüter <johannes@schlueters.de>:
    I didn't follow this closely as I was told not to "waste my time on
    peclweb" when I did some minor updates in August 2010.

    But I agree: Major changes should be announced on the list. Additionally
    I find it strange when single parts move to git, while there is a
    migration project going on. I think this should happen in a similar way
    for all repos not each part in a different way.

    Additionally it seems that https://github.com/pierrejoye/peclweb/ seems
    to be owned by a single person, not the php user on github.
    no, two persons, two persons doing the work, finally. And A couple
    more are coming.

    I never heard of a php user on github either. So...

    Anyway, again so much noises for nothing instead of getting things done.

    Cheers,
  • Christopher Jones at Dec 7, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    On 12/07/2011 05:45 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
    again, it was told, many times.
    Hi Pierre,

    Searching (via Thunderbird's not so excellent search) didn't
    immediately give any obvious hits (in your many emails!) Maybe that
    was at the bottom of some other message? So, with genuine respect, do
    you mind reposting some info about the plans & status?

    Thanks

    Chris



    2011/12/7 Johannes Schlüter<johannes@schlueters.de>:
    I didn't follow this closely as I was told not to "waste my time on
    peclweb" when I did some minor updates in August 2010.

    But I agree: Major changes should be announced on the list. Additionally
    I find it strange when single parts move to git, while there is a
    migration project going on. I think this should happen in a similar way
    for all repos not each part in a different way.

    Additionally it seems that https://github.com/pierrejoye/peclweb/ seems
    to be owned by a single person, not the php user on github.
    no, two persons, two persons doing the work, finally. And A couple
    more are coming.

    I never heard of a php user on github either. So...

    Anyway, again so much noises for nothing instead of getting things done.

    Cheers,
    --
    Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com
    Tel: +1 650 506 8630
    Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/
  • Hannes Magnusson at Dec 13, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 19:45, Christopher Jones wrote:

    On 12/07/2011 05:45 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:

    again, it was told, many times.

    Hi Pierre,

    Searching (via Thunderbird's not so excellent search) didn't
    immediately give any obvious hits (in your many emails!)  Maybe that
    was at the bottom of some other message?  So, with genuine respect, do
    you mind reposting some info about the plans & status?

    I'm curious too..
    Is the peclweb code owned by you Pierre on github really the most
    up2date centralized copy of peclweb?
    I don't remember any such headsup, and people are working on migrating
    everything in one go to git õ,Õ why did you move it to github?

    -Hannes

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