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Here is a message I posted last summer asking for an
educational category. I'm reposting in response to
the recent request for such posts.

I'm new to PAUSE posting. When reading the script
upload example, I saw the category of fun/educational.
I have two questions about that.

1. Do these categories exist?

2. Does the slash mean two seperate categories?

Here's what I would like to submit:
A script which simulates assembly language for
teachers who want to teach a little assembly language
programming without having to use a full blown
assembler. Mine is in Perl so it even crosses
platforms.

Since I see no educational category on the actual CPAN
index, I'm assuming there is no such category. I
would like to suggest that we create one.

The script in question implements a simple 20
statement assembler which has some of the flavor of
assembly without requiring an intense semester's work
to write complete programs. I'm teaching occasionally
now and find that colleges don't require assembly any
more. That's not a big loss to the resume, but no
knowledge of addressing modes and hand rolled arrays
seems a pity to me. With the small assembler I can
give a two week unit on assembly. This explains
arrays and computing with binary operations. The idea
is to build intuition and understanding.

Let me know what you think.

Phil Crow


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  • Jacob Kenner at Feb 5, 2002 at 10:58 pm

    On 5 Feb at 16:11 Phil Crow wrote:
    The script in question implements a simple 20 statement assembler
    which has some of the flavor of assembly without requiring an intense
    semester's work to write complete programs.
    Your program sounds like a great educational teaching aid for computer
    science. Instead of the top level Education, should it be housed in a
    sub-category to Education?
    Education : Programming
    Education : ComputerScience
    or something similiar?

    ~jacob
    --
    Self-knowledge is always bad news.
  • John Lenton at Feb 6, 2002 at 2:58 pm

    On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 04:54:10PM -0600, Jacob Kenner wrote:
    On 5 Feb at 16:11 Phil Crow wrote:
    The script in question implements a simple 20 statement assembler
    which has some of the flavor of assembly without requiring an intense
    semester's work to write complete programs.
    Your program sounds like a great educational teaching aid for computer
    science. Instead of the top level Education, should it be housed in a
    sub-category to Education?
    Education : Programming
    Education : ComputerScience
    or something similiar?
    Education::Programming::Assembler ?

    john "depth first" lenton

    --
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    I selected E5 ... but I didn't hear "Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs"!
  • Ed Beroset at Feb 6, 2002 at 3:17 pm
    Maybe if the purpose of the Perl script was to help someone learn
    something, the category might be better as Educational::ComputerScience or
    even ComputerAssistedInstruction::ComputerScience. A category named
    Education might for example, contain such things as a Perl script to
    calculate grade point averages, or a script to help students find a college
    or university to match their preferences and interests.

    And that brings to mind an idea for a new script -- one that generates
    useful and unambiguous category names based on a free-form text description
    of the script. Maybe Library of Congress book categorizations could be
    used as an input...

    Ed
  • Phil Crow at Feb 6, 2002 at 9:05 pm

    --- Ed Beroset wrote:
    Maybe if the purpose of the Perl script was to help
    someone learn
    something, the category might be better as
    Educational::ComputerScience or
    even ComputerAssistedInstruction::ComputerScience.
    A category named
    I like Educational::ComputerScience. It seems
    intuitive and not too long.
    Education might for example, contain such things as
    a Perl script to
    calculate grade point averages, or a script to help
    students find a college
    or university to match their preferences and
    interests.
    For grade caluculations I might like something more
    like TeacherHelpers. In fact, I have a simple grade
    book which would fit well in that category. Let this
    be my request for that category too.

    p.s. Ed - sorry for the repost
    All - Thanks for reviving this mailing list.

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  • John Lenton at Feb 7, 2002 at 2:14 pm

    On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 01:05:08PM -0800, Phil Crow wrote:

    For grade caluculations I might like something more
    like TeacherHelpers. In fact, I have a simple grade
    book which would fit well in that category. Let this
    be my request for that category too.
    Maybe Teaching ? Thus scripts that are educational, i.e. scripts
    that teach by themselves, would go in Education, while aids for
    teaching such as gradebooks would go in Teaching. Lastly Learning
    could field aids for students?

    --
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    Funcionara mejor si lo enchufas.
  • Jacob Kenner at Feb 7, 2002 at 7:23 pm

    On 7 Feb at 08:11 John Lenton wrote:
    Maybe Teaching ? Thus scripts that are educational, i.e. scripts
    that teach by themselves, would go in Education, while aids for
    teaching such as gradebooks would go in Teaching. Lastly Learning
    could field aids for students?
    I agree with these groupings.

    --
    "H*","6a61636f62406361757361746976652e6e6574"
  • Phil Crow at Feb 13, 2002 at 8:43 pm
    After some nice discussion it appears we have reached
    an acceptable name for scripts to teach programming:
    Educational::ComputerScience

    Kurt, can you set up the category?

    Thanks.

    Phil

    p.s. I'm not sure if I'm seeing any new categories
    when I hit the scripts page. The new RevisionControl
    category doesn't appear any more, though I'm sure it
    once did.

    --- Phil Crow wrote:
    --- Ed Beroset wrote:
    Maybe if the purpose of the Perl script was to help
    someone learn
    something, the category might be better as
    Educational::ComputerScience or
    even ComputerAssistedInstruction::ComputerScience.
    A category named
    I like Educational::ComputerScience. It seems
    intuitive and not too long.

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  • Chris at Feb 13, 2002 at 9:00 pm

    Phil Crow wrote:
    After some nice discussion it appears we have reached
    an acceptable name for scripts to teach programming:
    Educational::ComputerScience

    Kurt, can you set up the category?

    Thanks.

    Phil

    p.s. I'm not sure if I'm seeing any new categories
    when I hit the scripts page. The new RevisionControl
    category doesn't appear any more, though I'm sure it
    once did.

    --- Phil Crow wrote:
    --- Ed Beroset wrote:
    Maybe if the purpose of the Perl script was to help
    someone learn
    something, the category might be better as
    Educational::ComputerScience or
    even ComputerAssistedInstruction::ComputerScience.

    A category named
    I like Educational::ComputerScience. It seems
    intuitive and not too long.

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    Can one point me to the scripts page?

    TIA!
  • Kurt D. Starsinic at Feb 14, 2002 at 1:06 am

    On Feb 13, Phil Crow wrote:
    After some nice discussion it appears we have reached
    an acceptable name for scripts to teach programming:
    Educational::ComputerScience

    Kurt, can you set up the category?
    Done.

    - Kurt
  • Kurt D. Starsinic at Feb 14, 2002 at 1:09 am

    On Feb 13, Phil Crow wrote:

    After some nice discussion it appears we have reached
    an acceptable name for scripts to teach programming:
    Educational::ComputerScience

    Kurt, can you set up the category?

    Thanks.

    Phil

    p.s. I'm not sure if I'm seeing any new categories
    when I hit the scripts page. The new RevisionControl
    category doesn't appear any more, though I'm sure it
    once did.
    That's VersionControl, and it contains no scripts, so it won't
    appear.

    - Kurt

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