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Hi,

Wondered if anyone can tell me if I've misunderstood something here. I am able
to insert unicode data into nvarchar2 and get back what was inserted but same
code with nchar column does not work.

OCI version is 10.1.0.2
Database is Oracle 10.2 on Linux
Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
(Unicode)
This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i686-linux
DBD::Oracle 1.16.

#!/disk2/martin/perl/bin/perl
use charnames ':full';
use DBI;
use Encode;
use DBD::Oracle qw( :ora_types ORA_OCI SQLCS_NCHAR );
use Devel::Peek;

if ( $] < 5.008) {
print "Need at least Perl 5.8\n";
exit 1;
}
binmode(STDOUT, ":utf8");

print "<html><head>";
print q|<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">|;
print "<title>test</title></head><body>\n";

$ENV{'ORACLE_HOME'} = '/home/oracle/product/10.1.0/db_2';
$ENV{'NLS_NCHAR'} = 'AL32UTF8';
my $dbh = DBI->connect('dbi:Oracle:tentwo.testing', 'xxx', 'yyy');
$dbh->{ChopBlanks} = 1;
print "OCI version is ", ORA_OCI, "\n";
print "ora_can_unicode = ", $dbh->ora_can_unicode, "\n";
if (!($dbh->ora_can_unicode & 1)) {
print "Database does not support UNICODE\n";
exit 1;
}
my $paramsH = $dbh->ora_nls_parameters();
printf "Database $ora_server_version CHAR set is %s (%s), NCHAR set is %s
(%s)\n",
$paramsH->{NLS_CHARACTERSET},
$dbh->ora_can_unicode & 2 ? "Unicode" : "Non-Unicode",
$paramsH->{NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET},
$dbh->ora_can_unicode & 1 ? "Unicode" : "Non-Unicode";
eval {
$dbh->do('drop table martin');
};
# NOTE nchar does not work!!!! (why?)
$dbh->do('create table martin (a nvarchar2(256))');
my $sql = "insert into martin values (?)";
my $x = "\N{EURO SIGN}\x{20ac}\N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH ACUTE}";
$x .= chr(0x20ac);
print "is_utf8 returns ", utf8::is_utf8($x), "\n";
print "valid returns ", utf8::valid($x), "\n";
my $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
$sth->bind_param(1, $x, {ora_csform => SQLCS_NCHAR});
$sth->execute();
$sql = "select a from martin";
$sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
$sth->execute;
while(my @row = $sth->fetchrow_array) {
print "valid on returned string returns ", utf8::valid($row[0]), "\n";
#$_ = decode("utf8", $_) foreach @row;
print $row[0], "\n";
print unpack("H*", $row[0]), "\n";
print Dump(@row[0]);
}
$sth->finish;
$dbh->disconnect();

Output is:

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>test</title></head><body>
OCI version is 10.1.0.2
ora_can_unicode = 1
Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
(Unicode)
is_utf8 returns 1
valid returns 1
valid on returned string returns 1
<utf8 data here - snipped from email>
e282ace282acc381e282ac
SV = PV(0x82a3efc) at 0x82e5b48
REFCNT = 1
FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
PV = 0x8361bb0 "\342\202\254\342\202\254\303\201\342\202\254"\0 [UTF8
"\x{20ac}\x{20ac}\x{c1}\x{20ac}"]
CUR = 11
LEN = 12
</body></html>

UTF-8 data output with Devel::Peek Dump looks fine.

A simple change to create the table with nchar instead of nvarchar2
outputs:

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>test</title></head><body>
OCI version is 10.1.0.2
ora_can_unicode = 1
Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
(Unicode)
is_utf8 returns 1
valid returns 1
valid on returned string returns 1
<utf8 data here snipped from email>
3f3f413f
SV = PV(0x82a3efc) at 0x82e5c3c
REFCNT = 1
FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
PV = 0x8361cc0 "??A?"\0 [UTF8 "??A?"]
CUR = 4
LEN = 5
</body></html>

Devel::Peek Dump output looks nothing like what I expected.

Also, do I have to use {ora_csform => SQLCS_NCHAR}? Does not seem to work in
either case if I don't.

And one final thing. If I change $x containing the UTF-8 data to insert and run
$sth->execute again it inserts the original data again and not the changed $x.
I've not confirmed this yet with other drivers, but I am /fairly/ sure with
DBD::ODBC you don't have to call bind_param again if the bound data is changed.

Thanks.

Martin
--
Martin J. Evans
Easysoft Ltd, UK
Development

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  • Martin Evans at Jul 18, 2005 at 5:41 pm
    Please ignore the bind_param/execute part of my email - I was being an
    idiot. Would still like opinions on the rest of it though.

    Martin

    Quoting "Martin J. Evans" <[email protected]>:
    Hi,

    Wondered if anyone can tell me if I've misunderstood something here. I am
    able
    to insert unicode data into nvarchar2 and get back what was inserted but
    same
    code with nchar column does not work.

    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    Database is Oracle 10.2 on Linux
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i686-linux
    DBD::Oracle 1.16.

    #!/disk2/martin/perl/bin/perl
    use charnames ':full';
    use DBI;
    use Encode;
    use DBD::Oracle qw( :ora_types ORA_OCI SQLCS_NCHAR );
    use Devel::Peek;

    if ( $] < 5.008) {
    print "Need at least Perl 5.8\n";
    exit 1;
    }
    binmode(STDOUT, ":utf8");

    print "<html><head>";
    print q|<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">|;
    print "<title>test</title></head><body>\n";

    $ENV{'ORACLE_HOME'} = '/home/oracle/product/10.1.0/db_2';
    $ENV{'NLS_NCHAR'} = 'AL32UTF8';
    my $dbh = DBI->connect('dbi:Oracle:tentwo.testing', 'xxx', 'yyy');
    $dbh->{ChopBlanks} = 1;
    print "OCI version is ", ORA_OCI, "\n";
    print "ora_can_unicode = ", $dbh->ora_can_unicode, "\n";
    if (!($dbh->ora_can_unicode & 1)) {
    print "Database does not support UNICODE\n";
    exit 1;
    }
    my $paramsH = $dbh->ora_nls_parameters();
    printf "Database $ora_server_version CHAR set is %s (%s), NCHAR set is %s
    (%s)\n",
    $paramsH->{NLS_CHARACTERSET},
    $dbh->ora_can_unicode & 2 ? "Unicode" : "Non-Unicode",
    $paramsH->{NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET},
    $dbh->ora_can_unicode & 1 ? "Unicode" : "Non-Unicode";
    eval {
    $dbh->do('drop table martin');
    };
    # NOTE nchar does not work!!!! (why?)
    $dbh->do('create table martin (a nvarchar2(256))');
    my $sql = "insert into martin values (?)";
    my $x = "\N{EURO SIGN}\x{20ac}\N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH ACUTE}";
    $x .= chr(0x20ac);
    print "is_utf8 returns ", utf8::is_utf8($x), "\n";
    print "valid returns ", utf8::valid($x), "\n";
    my $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
    $sth->bind_param(1, $x, {ora_csform => SQLCS_NCHAR});
    $sth->execute();
    $sql = "select a from martin";
    $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
    $sth->execute;
    while(my @row = $sth->fetchrow_array) {
    print "valid on returned string returns ", utf8::valid($row[0]), "\n";
    #$_ = decode("utf8", $_) foreach @row;
    print $row[0], "\n";
    print unpack("H*", $row[0]), "\n";
    print Dump(@row[0]);
    }
    $sth->finish;
    $dbh->disconnect();

    Output is:

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
    content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>test</title></head><body>
    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    ora_can_unicode = 1
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    is_utf8 returns 1
    valid returns 1
    valid on returned string returns 1
    <utf8 data here - snipped from email>
    e282ace282acc381e282ac
    SV = PV(0x82a3efc) at 0x82e5b48
    REFCNT = 1
    FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
    PV = 0x8361bb0 "\342\202\254\342\202\254\303\201\342\202\254"\0 [UTF8
    "\x{20ac}\x{20ac}\x{c1}\x{20ac}"]
    CUR = 11
    LEN = 12
    </body></html>

    UTF-8 data output with Devel::Peek Dump looks fine.

    A simple change to create the table with nchar instead of nvarchar2
    outputs:

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
    content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>test</title></head><body>
    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    ora_can_unicode = 1
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    is_utf8 returns 1
    valid returns 1
    valid on returned string returns 1
    <utf8 data here snipped from email>
    3f3f413f
    SV = PV(0x82a3efc) at 0x82e5c3c
    REFCNT = 1
    FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
    PV = 0x8361cc0 "??A?"\0 [UTF8 "??A?"]
    CUR = 4
    LEN = 5
    </body></html>

    Devel::Peek Dump output looks nothing like what I expected.

    Also, do I have to use {ora_csform => SQLCS_NCHAR}? Does not seem to work in
    either case if I don't.

    And one final thing. If I change $x containing the UTF-8 data to insert and
    run
    $sth->execute again it inserts the original data again and not the changed
    $x.
    I've not confirmed this yet with other drivers, but I am /fairly/ sure with
    DBD::ODBC you don't have to call bind_param again if the bound data is
    changed.

    Thanks.

    Martin
    --
    Martin J. Evans
    Easysoft Ltd, UK
    Development

  • Martin J. Evans at Jul 19, 2005 at 12:50 pm
    Hi,

    I have some further information on my problem. The insertion of UTF-8 data into
    nchar seems to work like it does for nvarchar2; it appears it is the selecting
    from nchar fields that is not returning the data inserted. I have verified this
    by inserting the same data into nchar and nvarchar fields and reading it via
    Oracle's ODBC driver in MS Access - where it looks fine. But, retrieving it in
    Perl does not display the same results.

    Martin
    --
    Martin J. Evans
    Easysoft Ltd, UK
    Development

    On 18-Jul-2005 Martin J. Evans wrote:
    Hi,

    Wondered if anyone can tell me if I've misunderstood something here. I am
    able
    to insert unicode data into nvarchar2 and get back what was inserted but same
    code with nchar column does not work.

    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    Database is Oracle 10.2 on Linux
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i686-linux
    DBD::Oracle 1.16.

    #!/disk2/martin/perl/bin/perl
    use charnames ':full';
    use DBI;
    use Encode;
    use DBD::Oracle qw( :ora_types ORA_OCI SQLCS_NCHAR );
    use Devel::Peek;

    if ( $] < 5.008) {
    print "Need at least Perl 5.8\n";
    exit 1;
    }
    binmode(STDOUT, ":utf8");

    print "<html><head>";
    print q|<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">|;
    print "<title>test</title></head><body>\n";

    $ENV{'ORACLE_HOME'} = '/home/oracle/product/10.1.0/db_2';
    $ENV{'NLS_NCHAR'} = 'AL32UTF8';
    my $dbh = DBI->connect('dbi:Oracle:tentwo.testing', 'xxx', 'yyy');
    $dbh->{ChopBlanks} = 1;
    print "OCI version is ", ORA_OCI, "\n";
    print "ora_can_unicode = ", $dbh->ora_can_unicode, "\n";
    if (!($dbh->ora_can_unicode & 1)) {
    print "Database does not support UNICODE\n";
    exit 1;
    }
    my $paramsH = $dbh->ora_nls_parameters();
    printf "Database $ora_server_version CHAR set is %s (%s), NCHAR set is %s
    (%s)\n",
    $paramsH->{NLS_CHARACTERSET},
    $dbh->ora_can_unicode & 2 ? "Unicode" : "Non-Unicode",
    $paramsH->{NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET},
    $dbh->ora_can_unicode & 1 ? "Unicode" : "Non-Unicode";
    eval {
    $dbh->do('drop table martin');
    };
    # NOTE nchar does not work!!!! (why?)
    $dbh->do('create table martin (a nvarchar2(256))');
    my $sql = "insert into martin values (?)";
    my $x = "\N{EURO SIGN}\x{20ac}\N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH ACUTE}";
    $x .= chr(0x20ac);
    print "is_utf8 returns ", utf8::is_utf8($x), "\n";
    print "valid returns ", utf8::valid($x), "\n";
    my $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
    $sth->bind_param(1, $x, {ora_csform => SQLCS_NCHAR});
    $sth->execute();
    $sql = "select a from martin";
    $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
    $sth->execute;
    while(my @row = $sth->fetchrow_array) {
    print "valid on returned string returns ", utf8::valid($row[0]), "\n";
    #$_ = decode("utf8", $_) foreach @row;
    print $row[0], "\n";
    print unpack("H*", $row[0]), "\n";
    print Dump(@row[0]);
    }
    $sth->finish;
    $dbh->disconnect();

    Output is:

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
    content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>test</title></head><body>
    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    ora_can_unicode = 1
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    is_utf8 returns 1
    valid returns 1
    valid on returned string returns 1
    <utf8 data here - snipped from email>
    e282ace282acc381e282ac
    SV = PV(0x82a3efc) at 0x82e5b48
    REFCNT = 1
    FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
    PV = 0x8361bb0 "\342\202\254\342\202\254\303\201\342\202\254"\0 [UTF8
    "\x{20ac}\x{20ac}\x{c1}\x{20ac}"]
    CUR = 11
    LEN = 12
    </body></html>

    UTF-8 data output with Devel::Peek Dump looks fine.

    A simple change to create the table with nchar instead of nvarchar2
    outputs:

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
    content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>test</title></head><body>
    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    ora_can_unicode = 1
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    is_utf8 returns 1
    valid returns 1
    valid on returned string returns 1
    <utf8 data here snipped from email>
    3f3f413f
    SV = PV(0x82a3efc) at 0x82e5c3c
    REFCNT = 1
    FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
    PV = 0x8361cc0 "??A?"\0 [UTF8 "??A?"]
    CUR = 4
    LEN = 5
    </body></html>

    Devel::Peek Dump output looks nothing like what I expected.

    Also, do I have to use {ora_csform => SQLCS_NCHAR}? Does not seem to work in
    either case if I don't.

    And one final thing. If I change $x containing the UTF-8 data to insert and
    run
    $sth->execute again it inserts the original data again and not the changed
    $x.
    I've not confirmed this yet with other drivers, but I am /fairly/ sure with
    DBD::ODBC you don't have to call bind_param again if the bound data is
    changed.

    Thanks.

    Martin
    --
    Martin J. Evans
    Easysoft Ltd, UK
    Development
  • Martin J. Evans at Jul 19, 2005 at 1:32 pm
    I seem to have identified the difference between selecting from nchar and
    nvarchar columns containing unicode data:

    for nvarchar:
    col 1: dbtype 1, scale 0, prec 512, nullok 1, name A
    : dbsize 512, char_used 1, char_size 256, csid 2000, csform 2, disize 512

    for ncahr:
    col 1: dbtype 96, scale 0, prec 512, nullok 1, name A
    : dbsize 512, char_used 1, char_size 256, csid 2000, csform 2, disize 512

    and for nvarchar, DBD::Oracle makes the call:

    calling OCIAttrSet OCI_ATTR_CHARSET_FORM with csform=2
    OCIAttrSet(83423a0,OCI_HTYPE_DEFINE,bfffed87,0,32,833c858)=SUCCESS

    If I change oci8.c around line 1316 which was:

    #ifdef OCI_ATTR_CHARSET_FORM
    if ( (fbh->dbtype == 1) ) { /* && (fbh->csform == SQLCS_NCHAR) &&
    CS_IS_UTF8(ncharsetid) ) { */
    /* ok... after doing what tim asked: setting SvUTF8 strictly based on csid
    8bit Nchar test was broken
    and this currently effectively just sets Attrs to the values in fhb ignoring
    ncharsetid altogether
    probably wrong
    */

    to:

    #ifdef OCI_ATTR_CHARSET_FORM
    if ( (fbh->dbtype == 1) || (fbh->csform == SQLCS_NCHAR)) {

    I seem to get my data back as I expected.

    I don't know much about DBD::Oracle so the comment in the code does
    not help me that much but it looks as though the code used to be
    fairly similar to how I changed it.

    So, my question now becomes, should I be able to store unicode data
    in an nchar (which I can with stock DBD::Oracle 1.16) and expect to be
    able to get it back again as unicode data? Is DBD::Oracle working
    correctly or should I have done something else?

    Martin

    --
    Martin J. Evans
    Easysoft Ltd, UK
    Development
    On 19-Jul-2005 Martin J. Evans wrote:
    Hi,

    I have some further information on my problem. The insertion of UTF-8 data
    into
    nchar seems to work like it does for nvarchar2; it appears it is the
    selecting
    from nchar fields that is not returning the data inserted. I have verified
    this
    by inserting the same data into nchar and nvarchar fields and reading it via
    Oracle's ODBC driver in MS Access - where it looks fine. But, retrieving it
    in
    Perl does not display the same results.

    Martin
    --
    Martin J. Evans
    Easysoft Ltd, UK
    Development

    On 18-Jul-2005 Martin J. Evans wrote:
    Hi,

    Wondered if anyone can tell me if I've misunderstood something here. I am
    able
    to insert unicode data into nvarchar2 and get back what was inserted but
    same
    code with nchar column does not work.

    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    Database is Oracle 10.2 on Linux
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i686-linux
    DBD::Oracle 1.16.

    #!/disk2/martin/perl/bin/perl
    use charnames ':full';
    use DBI;
    use Encode;
    use DBD::Oracle qw( :ora_types ORA_OCI SQLCS_NCHAR );
    use Devel::Peek;

    if ( $] < 5.008) {
    print "Need at least Perl 5.8\n";
    exit 1;
    }
    binmode(STDOUT, ":utf8");

    print "<html><head>";
    print q|<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">|;
    print "<title>test</title></head><body>\n";

    $ENV{'ORACLE_HOME'} = '/home/oracle/product/10.1.0/db_2';
    $ENV{'NLS_NCHAR'} = 'AL32UTF8';
    my $dbh = DBI->connect('dbi:Oracle:tentwo.testing', 'xxx', 'yyy');
    $dbh->{ChopBlanks} = 1;
    print "OCI version is ", ORA_OCI, "\n";
    print "ora_can_unicode = ", $dbh->ora_can_unicode, "\n";
    if (!($dbh->ora_can_unicode & 1)) {
    print "Database does not support UNICODE\n";
    exit 1;
    }
    my $paramsH = $dbh->ora_nls_parameters();
    printf "Database $ora_server_version CHAR set is %s (%s), NCHAR set is %s
    (%s)\n",
    $paramsH->{NLS_CHARACTERSET},
    $dbh->ora_can_unicode & 2 ? "Unicode" : "Non-Unicode",
    $paramsH->{NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET},
    $dbh->ora_can_unicode & 1 ? "Unicode" : "Non-Unicode";
    eval {
    $dbh->do('drop table martin');
    };
    # NOTE nchar does not work!!!! (why?)
    $dbh->do('create table martin (a nvarchar2(256))');
    my $sql = "insert into martin values (?)";
    my $x = "\N{EURO SIGN}\x{20ac}\N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH ACUTE}";
    $x .= chr(0x20ac);
    print "is_utf8 returns ", utf8::is_utf8($x), "\n";
    print "valid returns ", utf8::valid($x), "\n";
    my $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
    $sth->bind_param(1, $x, {ora_csform => SQLCS_NCHAR});
    $sth->execute();
    $sql = "select a from martin";
    $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
    $sth->execute;
    while(my @row = $sth->fetchrow_array) {
    print "valid on returned string returns ", utf8::valid($row[0]), "\n";
    #$_ = decode("utf8", $_) foreach @row;
    print $row[0], "\n";
    print unpack("H*", $row[0]), "\n";
    print Dump(@row[0]);
    }
    $sth->finish;
    $dbh->disconnect();

    Output is:

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
    content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>test</title></head><body>
    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    ora_can_unicode = 1
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    is_utf8 returns 1
    valid returns 1
    valid on returned string returns 1
    <utf8 data here - snipped from email>
    e282ace282acc381e282ac
    SV = PV(0x82a3efc) at 0x82e5b48
    REFCNT = 1
    FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
    PV = 0x8361bb0 "\342\202\254\342\202\254\303\201\342\202\254"\0 [UTF8
    "\x{20ac}\x{20ac}\x{c1}\x{20ac}"]
    CUR = 11
    LEN = 12
    </body></html>

    UTF-8 data output with Devel::Peek Dump looks fine.

    A simple change to create the table with nchar instead of nvarchar2
    outputs:

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
    content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><title>test</title></head><body>
    OCI version is 10.1.0.2
    ora_can_unicode = 1
    Database CHAR set is WE8ISO8859P1 (Non-Unicode), NCHAR set is AL16UTF16
    (Unicode)
    is_utf8 returns 1
    valid returns 1
    valid on returned string returns 1
    <utf8 data here snipped from email>
    3f3f413f
    SV = PV(0x82a3efc) at 0x82e5c3c
    REFCNT = 1
    FLAGS = (POK,pPOK,UTF8)
    PV = 0x8361cc0 "??A?"\0 [UTF8 "??A?"]
    CUR = 4
    LEN = 5
    </body></html>

    Devel::Peek Dump output looks nothing like what I expected.

    Also, do I have to use {ora_csform => SQLCS_NCHAR}? Does not seem to work in
    either case if I don't.

    And one final thing. If I change $x containing the UTF-8 data to insert and
    run
    $sth->execute again it inserts the original data again and not the changed
    $x.
    I've not confirmed this yet with other drivers, but I am /fairly/ sure with
    DBD::ODBC you don't have to call bind_param again if the bound data is
    changed.

    Thanks.

    Martin
    --
    Martin J. Evans
    Easysoft Ltd, UK
    Development

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