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Wanted to get feedback on Oracle's new Exadata! Larry must love all
those CPU cores $$. Will have to wait and see on how this plays out as
compared to a traditional SAN/ NAS. Can't imagine to have another
footprint just for Oracle alone!
On 9/22/08, steve montgomerie wrote:
Hello,
We're using OEL 4.5 with 10.2.0.4 in a 4 node primary / single node standby
config.

I'm trying to place nice with GRID control but it's not working! I create a
copy of the db
using the DG interface in GRID, FTP to the new location and then use the
GRID to
add a physical standby using the backup copy I just took. It rolls right
along, restoring files
and when gets close to the end it fails on 'create standby' throwing

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Error: ORA-16532 (ORA-16532)
Text: Data Guard broker configuration does not exist

it looks to me that it creates the dg config on one node and does
not for the the remaining three nodes on the primary.

I have a SR open - just holding out hope that someone might have run in
to this before.

steve
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  • John Kanagaraj at Sep 25, 2008 at 3:18 pm
    I was laughing inside when Larry mentioned that this was his first
    hardware/software product. Anyone remeber the failed nCube and Network
    Computer products?

    I believe the name is a one up on Tera-data (exa vs tera)

    "Wait and see"

    John
    On 9/24/08, Raj wrote:
    Wanted to get feedback on Oracle's new Exadata! Larry must love all
    those CPU cores $$. Will have to wait and see on how this plays out as
    compared to a traditional SAN/ NAS. Can't imagine to have another
    footprint just for Oracle alone!


    On 9/22/08, steve montgomerie wrote:
    Hello,
    We're using OEL 4.5 with 10.2.0.4 in a 4 node primary / single node
    standby
    config.

    I'm trying to place nice with GRID control but it's not working! I create
    a
    copy of the db
    using the DG interface in GRID, FTP to the new location and then use the
    GRID to
    add a physical standby using the backup copy I just took. It rolls right
    along, restoring files
    and when gets close to the end it fails on 'create standby' throwing

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Error: ORA-16532 (ORA-16532)
    Text: Data Guard broker configuration does not exist

    it looks to me that it creates the dg config on one node and does
    not for the the remaining three nodes on the primary.

    I have a SR open - just holding out hope that someone might have run in
    to this before.

    steve
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  • LS Cheng at Sep 25, 2008 at 3:24 pm
    http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/09/25/exadata_oracle_appliance/

    seems the third try

    Cheers

    --
    LSC
    On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM, John Kanagaraj wrote:

    I was laughing inside when Larry mentioned that this was his first
    hardware/software product. Anyone remeber the failed nCube and Network
    Computer products?

    I believe the name is a one up on Tera-data (exa vs tera)

    "Wait and see"

    John

    On 9/24/08, Raj wrote:
    Wanted to get feedback on Oracle's new Exadata! Larry must love all
    those CPU cores $$. Will have to wait and see on how this plays out as
    compared to a traditional SAN/ NAS. Can't imagine to have another
    footprint just for Oracle alone!


    On 9/22/08, steve montgomerie wrote:
    Hello,
    We're using OEL 4.5 with 10.2.0.4 in a 4 node primary / single node
    standby
    config.

    I'm trying to place nice with GRID control but it's not working! I
    create
    a
    copy of the db
    using the DG interface in GRID, FTP to the new location and then use the
    GRID to
    add a physical standby using the backup copy I just took. It rolls right
    along, restoring files
    and when gets close to the end it fails on 'create standby' throwing

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Error: ORA-16532 (ORA-16532)
    Text: Data Guard broker configuration does not exist

    it looks to me that it creates the dg config on one node and does
    not for the the remaining three nodes on the primary.

    I have a SR open - just holding out hope that someone might have run in
    to this before.

    steve
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  • Yechiel Adar at Oct 3, 2008 at 7:45 am
    One statement caught my eye:
    "Ellison said the system passes query results between the storage and
    the server - rather than the full disk blocks"

    It seems that the storage know about the internal structure of oracle
    and do the query on the table and return the result set, lets say for
    each table, and then Oracle just do the set combination to give the
    resulting set to the user.
    This splits the work between the two components and allow for speed boost.

    Adar Yechiel
    Rechovot, Israel

    LS Cheng wrote:
    http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/09/25/exadata_oracle_appliance/


    seems the third try

    Cheers

    --
    LSC

    On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM, John Kanagaraj
    wrote:
    I was laughing inside when Larry mentioned that this was his first
    hardware/software product. Anyone remeber the failed nCube and Network
    Computer products?

    I believe the name is a one up on Tera-data (exa vs tera)

    "Wait and see"

    John


    On 9/24/08, Raj
    wrote:
    Wanted to get feedback on Oracle's new Exadata! Larry must love all
    those CPU cores $$. Will have to wait and see on how this plays out as
    compared to a traditional SAN/ NAS. Can't imagine to have another
    footprint just for Oracle alone!



    On 9/22/08, steve montgomerie
    wrote:
    Hello,
    We're using OEL 4.5 with 10.2.0.4 <http://10.2.0.4> in a 4 node
    primary / single node
    standby
    config.

    I'm trying to place nice with GRID control but it's not
    working! I create
    a
    copy of the db
    using the DG interface in GRID, FTP to the new location and
    then use the
    GRID to
    add a physical standby using the backup copy I just took. It
    rolls right
    along, restoring files
    and when gets close to the end it fails on 'create standby'
    throwing
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Error: ORA-16532 (ORA-16532)
    Text: Data Guard broker configuration does not exist

    it looks to me that it creates the dg config on one node and does
    not for the the remaining three nodes on the primary.

    I have a SR open - just holding out hope that someone might
    have run in
    to this before.

    steve
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  • Rich Jesse at Sep 25, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    I believe the name is a one up on Tera-data (exa vs tera)
    Two up -- don't forget the lowly peta!

    Unscientific kneejerk Google searching seems to find "older" pages
    referencing "petadata", but "exadata" seem to be within the past day (go
    figure). Maybe petadata was already taken or just not futuristic enough...

    Rich
  • Niall Litchfield at Sep 25, 2008 at 4:47 pm
    Perhaps, he just meant the first this millenium... Raw Iron wasn't a
    staggering success either and seems to be an almost identical idea ten years
    down the road. Of course the implementation may be fantastic and the tech
    maybe great, but it's not even the first database appliance he's announced
    let alone hardware/software product.

    Niall
    On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM, John Kanagaraj wrote:

    I was laughing inside when Larry mentioned that this was his first
    hardware/software product. Anyone remeber the failed nCube and Network
    Computer products?

    I believe the name is a one up on Tera-data (exa vs tera)

    "Wait and see"

    John

    On 9/24/08, Raj wrote:
    Wanted to get feedback on Oracle's new Exadata! Larry must love all
    those CPU cores $$. Will have to wait and see on how this plays out as
    compared to a traditional SAN/ NAS. Can't imagine to have another
    footprint just for Oracle alone!


    On 9/22/08, steve montgomerie wrote:
    Hello,
    We're using OEL 4.5 with 10.2.0.4 in a 4 node primary / single node
    standby
    config.

    I'm trying to place nice with GRID control but it's not working! I
    create
    a
    copy of the db
    using the DG interface in GRID, FTP to the new location and then use the
    GRID to
    add a physical standby using the backup copy I just took. It rolls right
    along, restoring files
    and when gets close to the end it fails on 'create standby' throwing

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Error: ORA-16532 (ORA-16532)
    Text: Data Guard broker configuration does not exist

    it looks to me that it creates the dg config on one node and does
    not for the the remaining three nodes on the primary.

    I have a SR open - just holding out hope that someone might have run in
    to this before.

    steve
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  • Keith Moore at Sep 25, 2008 at 7:02 pm
    First of all, I haven't read everything about Exadata and I don't think they
    are telling us everything about the architecture but...

    It looks to me like a response to competition from companies like Neteeza and
    other database appliances. Neteeza is massively parallel with share nothing
    data. Think of 200 single processor servers with a single disk each. Each
    server handles 1/200th of the data. It's more complicated than that of course
    but that's the general idea. Good for processing massive amounts of data.

    Looks like Oracle is using massively parallel RAC to accomplish something
    similar. I also saw something about separate storage arrays but not sure what
    exactly that all means.

    I'll be interested in seeing more architectural details.

    Keith
    Perhaps, he just meant the first this millenium... Raw Iron wasn't a
    staggering success either and seems to be an almost identical idea ten years
    down the road. Of course the implementation may be fantastic and the tech
    maybe great, but it's not even the first database appliance he's announced
    let alone hardware/software product.

    Niall
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  • Bill Ferguson at Sep 25, 2008 at 7:08 pm
  • Crisler, Jon at Sep 26, 2008 at 2:41 am
    This explanation seems like what DB2 for Unix does already.

    -----Original Message-----
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    On Behalf Of Keith Moore
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    First of all, I haven't read everything about Exadata and I don't think
    they
    are telling us everything about the architecture but...

    It looks to me like a response to competition from companies like
    Neteeza and
    other database appliances. Neteeza is massively parallel with share
    nothing
    data. Think of 200 single processor servers with a single disk each.
    Each
    server handles 1/200th of the data. It's more complicated than that of
    course
    but that's the general idea. Good for processing massive amounts of
    data.

    Looks like Oracle is using massively parallel RAC to accomplish
    something
    similar. I also saw something about separate storage arrays but not sure
    what
    exactly that all means.

    I'll be interested in seeing more architectural details.

    Keith
    Perhaps, he just meant the first this millenium... Raw Iron wasn't a
    staggering success either and seems to be an almost identical idea ten years
    down the road. Of course the implementation may be fantastic and the tech
    maybe great, but it's not even the first database appliance he's announced
    let alone hardware/software product.

    Niall
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  • Mkb at Oct 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm
    Original Message ----

    One statement caught my eye:
    "Ellison said the system
    passes query results between the storage and the server - rather than
    the full disk blocks"

    It seems that the storage know about the internal structure of oracle
    and do the query on the table and return the result set, lets say for
    each table, and then Oracle just do the set combination to give the
    resulting set to the user.
    This splits the work between the two components and allow for speed
    boost.

    Adar Yechiel
    Rechovot, Israel

    Seems like a hybrid between a shared nothing and shared disk architecture to me. Some of the intelligence is now in the storage layer.

    I wonder how this compares to a shared nothing approach? It would seem to me that this approach would be a little more flexible than a pure shared nothing since I assume you can add storage and the RDBMS engine as needed without much reconfiguration.
  • Hrishy at Oct 3, 2008 at 2:42 pm
    Hi

    This is exactly what Netezza does.wherein the SPU (snippet processing unit) passes the results back to the database server.

    regards
    Hrishy
    On Fri, 3/10/08, mkb wrote:

    From: mkb
    Subject: Re: Larry's keynote at OOW 08
    To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
    Cc: adar666_at_inter.net.il
    Date: Friday, 3 October, 2008, 3:27 PM
    ----- Original Message ----

    One statement caught my eye:
    "Ellison said the system
    passes query results between the storage and the server -
    rather than
    the full disk blocks"

    It seems that the storage know about the internal structure
    of oracle
    and do the query on the table and return the result set,
    lets say for
    each table, and then Oracle just do the set combination to
    give the
    resulting set to the user.
    This splits the work between the two components and allow
    for speed
    boost.

    Adar Yechiel
    Rechovot, Israel
    ----------------

    Seems like a hybrid between a shared nothing and shared
    disk architecture to me. Some of the intelligence is now in
    the storage layer.

    I wonder how this compares to a shared nothing approach?
    It would seem to me that this approach would be a little
    more flexible than a pure shared nothing since I assume you
    can add storage and the RDBMS engine as needed without much
    reconfiguration.

    --
    mohammed


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