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Hi!
I don't know enough about Java, can someone describe the differences between
the way Tomcat works and OC4J works?
The first difference that comes into my mind is:

Tomcat:

1) you download the software
2) you install it
3) you use it

Oracle iAS

1) you download the software
2) you pay $$$ for the license
3) you try to install it
4) you fail and go to iAS administration training
5) you find out, that advanced administration is the course what you need
6) if lucky, you can go to advanced administration as well
7) you try to install it
8) you still fail
9) you pay $$$ for support subscription

10) if [ "$your_wife_has_seen_you_home_during_last_five_days" -eq "1" ];
then
10.1) while [
"$still_hasnt_learned_all_the_small_iAS_installation_issues" -eq "1" ]; do

10.1.1) you try to install it again
10.1.2) you fail miserably again
10.1.3) you contact support and open a TAR
10.1.4) support asks whether your computer is turned on
10.1.5) you tell #$&@!
10.1.6) another analyst from other side of the world contacts you after
6 hours
10.1.7) he asks which version you are trying to install
10.1.8) you answer your version
10.1.9) the analyst recommends you to use the latest version of software

10.1.10) you go out, have a coffee and a cigarette (you gotta buy a pack
from local store, because you don't smoke)
10.1.11) you tell the analyst #$&@!
10.1.12) another analyst from a country where is lunchtime when you have
05AM digs up some notes and patches
10.1.13) you try to understand what is meant by "clean your environment"
in a note
10.1.14) you fail to understand, get another coffee, go outside and have 3
cigarettes
10.1.15) now you don't care anymore and do exactly what is stated in the
note (at least what you think is stated there)
10.1.16) the may relieve your issue somewhat, but you bump to another
issue immediately
10.1.17) you update your TAR in metalink
10.1.18) after 2 hours an analyst replies and recommends to open another
TAR

10.1.19) done # while
10.1.20) elsif
10.1.21) go home
10.1.22) open your laptop
10.1.23) work from home
10.1.24) next morning go back to step 10.0.0
10.1.25) fi
10.1.26) eventually you manage to install the software
10.1.27) you start using the server and find out that you have missed a tiny

preinstall patch or note (which was released yesterday) in metalink and have
to go back to step 10, because latter configuration changes aren't supported
or simply don't work, ocassionally visiting step 9 as well. Going to each of
the steps also involves a new, dynamic "X" step, which means buying a pack
of cigarettes from whereever available. Some people even make it to Z-point
which means cursing and yelling while typing on your keyboard with extreme
speed.

So, IMHO, these are the minor differences between the two products.

Sincerely,
Tanel.

P.S. Women may replace "your_wife" with "your_husband" in if-construct and
single people could replace with your_friends, your_bartender or similar.

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  • Brian McGraw at Aug 26, 2003 at 1:49 pm
    Wonderful.

    I would like to add:

    10.1.23.1) After explicitly instructing them not to, have an analyst
    from the other side of the world call you at home, @ 3a.m., waking up
    spouse and children in the process.

    Brian

    -----Original Message-----
    Tanel Poder
    Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:29 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

    Hi!
    I don't know enough about Java, can someone describe the differences between
    the way Tomcat works and OC4J works?
    The first difference that comes into my mind is:

    Tomcat:

    1) you download the software
    2) you install it
    3) you use it

    Oracle iAS

    1) you download the software
    2) you pay $$$ for the license
    3) you try to install it
    4) you fail and go to iAS administration training
    5) you find out, that advanced administration is the course what you

    need

    6) if lucky, you can go to advanced administration as well
    7) you try to install it
    8) you still fail
    9) you pay $$$ for support subscription

    10) if [ "$your_wife_has_seen_you_home_during_last_five_days" -eq "1" ];
    then
    10.1) while [
    "$still_hasnt_learned_all_the_small_iAS_installation_issues" -eq "1" ];
    do

    10.1.1) you try to install it again
    10.1.2) you fail miserably again
    10.1.3) you contact support and open a TAR
    10.1.4) support asks whether your computer is turned on
    10.1.5) you tell #$&@!
    10.1.6) another analyst from other side of the world contacts you

    after
    6 hours

    10.1.7) he asks which version you are trying to install
    10.1.8) you answer your version
    10.1.9) the analyst recommends you to use the latest version of

    software
    10.1.10) you go out, have a coffee and a cigarette (you gotta buy a
    pack
    from local store, because you don't smoke)
    10.1.11) you tell the analyst #$&@!
    10.1.12) another analyst from a country where is lunchtime when you
    have
    05AM digs up some notes and patches
    10.1.13) you try to understand what is meant by "clean your
    environment"
    in a note
    10.1.14) you fail to understand, get another coffee, go outside and
    have 3
    cigarettes
    10.1.15) now you don't care anymore and do exactly what is stated in
    the
    note (at least what you think is stated there)
    10.1.16) the may relieve your issue somewhat, but you bump to another
    issue immediately
    10.1.17) you update your TAR in metalink
    10.1.18) after 2 hours an analyst replies and recommends to open
    another
    TAR

    10.1.19) done # while
    10.1.20) elsif
    10.1.21) go home
    10.1.22) open your laptop
    10.1.23) work from home
    10.1.24) next morning go back to step 10.0.0
    10.1.25) fi
    10.1.26) eventually you manage to install the software
    10.1.27) you start using the server and find out that you have missed a

    tiny
    preinstall patch or note (which was released yesterday) in metalink and
    have
    to go back to step 10, because latter configuration changes aren't
    supported
    or simply don't work, ocassionally visiting step 9 as well. Going to
    each of
    the steps also involves a new, dynamic "X" step, which means buying a
    pack
    of cigarettes from whereever available. Some people even make it to
    Z-point
    which means cursing and yelling while typing on your keyboard with
    extreme
    speed.

    So, IMHO, these are the minor differences between the two products.

    Sincerely,
    Tanel.

    P.S. Women may replace "your_wife" with "your_husband" in if-construct
    and
    single people could replace with your_friends, your_bartender or
    similar.

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