[Oracle-l] CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

Jared.Still_at_radisys.com

at Oct 11, 2002 at 12:53 am

I believe the Book Safari is changing. It is supposed
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http://www.oreilly.com/news/new_safari_0902.html

Jared

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Subject: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

So every few months my Lookout reminder pops up to remind me to check out
what new Oracle books have been released. I stumbled upon a new book
called CodeNotes for Oracle9i on Amazon.com, but the interesting part is
that it is available in eBook format. Here's the (probably broken)
link...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ISCN/qid=1034101493/sr=1-25/ref=sr_1_25/104-5919725-7522346?v=glance

The eBook version is $9.95 and the shipping is free (big grin), while the
paperback is $13.97 plus shipping. Are you comfortable reading an eBook?
You decide.

At any rate, I will probably break down and buy the eBook. Not so much
because the book is great (or not) but because I hope to send a message to
publishers to publish more books in the eBook format, which is also why I
posted this message.

I know that O'Reilly has the Safari Bookshelf website, but I found it to
be restrictive and pricey.

BTW, if for some reason you are or will be using .Net, the CodeNotes eBook
version is free...

http://www.codenotes.com/do/downloads/downloadsNETbook

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DENNIS WILLIAMS

at Oct 11, 2002 at 3:44 pm

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I have an odd question about these on-line books. Can I copy-and-paste the
text?

Like many of you, I seem to end up with long commutes (why are the best
jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find listening to books on CD to be a
better use of time than reading bumper stickers. Nobody ever seems to issue
Oracle books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice program, and it works pretty
good to create an audio version of a book. But many of these eBooks
zealously protect their text and prevent you from doing copy-and-paste on
the text. Fortunately Oracle makes their books readily available. Any ideas
are welcome. And my apologies to the authors on the list that are going "he
wants to do WHAT with my book!!".
Dennis Williams
DBA

Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I believe the Book Safari is changing. It is supposed
to be more flexible now.

http://www.oreilly.com/news/new_safari_0902.html

Jared

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Subject: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

So every few months my Lookout reminder pops up to remind me to check out
what new Oracle books have been released. I stumbled upon a new book
called CodeNotes for Oracle9i on Amazon.com, but the interesting part is
that it is available in eBook format. Here's the (probably broken)
link...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ISCN/qid=1034101493/sr=1
-25/ref=sr_1_25/104-5919725-7522346?v=glance

The eBook version is $9.95 and the shipping is free (big grin), while the
paperback is $13.97 plus shipping. Are you comfortable reading an eBook?
You decide.

At any rate, I will probably break down and buy the eBook. Not so much
because the book is great (or not) but because I hope to send a message to
publishers to publish more books in the eBook format, which is also why I
posted this message.

I know that O'Reilly has the Safari Bookshelf website, but I found it to
be restrictive and pricey.

BTW, if for some reason you are or will be using .Net, the CodeNotes eBook
version is free...

http://www.codenotes.com/do/downloads/downloadsNETbook

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Joe Testa

at Oct 12, 2002 at 11:48 pm

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I would think the authors should read and publish the books in .mp3
format, you can get like 10 hours worth on one cd.

Rachel how about you start,

bwahahahahahahaha

joe

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

I have an odd question about these on-line books. Can I copy-and-paste the
text?
Like many of you, I seem to end up with long commutes (why are the best
jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find listening to books on CD to be a
better use of time than reading bumper stickers. Nobody ever seems to issue
Oracle books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice program, and it works pretty
good to create an audio version of a book. But many of these eBooks
zealously protect their text and prevent you from doing copy-and-paste on
the text. Fortunately Oracle makes their books readily available. Any ideas
are welcome. And my apologies to the authors on the list that are going "he
wants to do WHAT with my book!!".
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I believe the Book Safari is changing. It is supposed
to be more flexible now.

http://www.oreilly.com/news/new_safari_0902.html

Jared

"Grabowy, Chris"
Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
10/08/2002 01:04 PM
Please respond to ORACLE-L

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
cc:
Subject: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

So every few months my Lookout reminder pops up to remind me to check out
what new Oracle books have been released. I stumbled upon a new book
called CodeNotes for Oracle9i on Amazon.com, but the interesting part is
that it is available in eBook format. Here's the (probably broken)
link...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ISCN/qid=1034101493/sr=1
-25/ref=sr_1_25/104-5919725-7522346?v=glance

The eBook version is $9.95 and the shipping is free (big grin), while the
paperback is $13.97 plus shipping. Are you comfortable reading an eBook?
You decide.

At any rate, I will probably break down and buy the eBook. Not so much
because the book is great (or not) but because I hope to send a message to
publishers to publish more books in the eBook format, which is also why I
posted this message.

I know that O'Reilly has the Safari Bookshelf website, but I found it to
be restrictive and pricey.

BTW, if for some reason you are or will be using .Net, the CodeNotes eBook
version is free...

http://www.codenotes.com/do/downloads/downloadsNETbook

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Jared Still

at Oct 13, 2002 at 4:43 pm

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Hey, if you'll buy it, I'll record it.

Should alleviate the parental bed time story
for the kiddies. A little subliminal DBA learning
couldn't hurt either.

could it?

Jared

On Saturday 12 October 2002 16:48, Joe Testa wrote:
I would think the authors should read and publish the books in .mp3
format, you can get like 10 hours worth on one cd.

Rachel how about you start,

bwahahahahahahaha

joe

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

I have an odd question about these on-line books. Can I copy-and-paste the
text?
Like many of you, I seem to end up with long commutes (why are the best
jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find listening to books on CD to be a
better use of time than reading bumper stickers. Nobody ever seems to
issue Oracle books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice program, and it
works pretty good to create an audio version of a book. But many of these
eBooks zealously protect their text and prevent you from doing
copy-and-paste on the text. Fortunately Oracle makes their books readily
available. Any ideas are welcome. And my apologies to the authors on the
list that are going "he wants to do WHAT with my book!!".
Dennis Williams
DBA

Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I believe the Book Safari is changing. It is supposed
to be more flexible now.

http://www.oreilly.com/news/new_safari_0902.html

Jared

"Grabowy, Chris"
Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
10/08/2002 01:04 PM
Please respond to ORACLE-L

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
cc:
Subject: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

So every few months my Lookout reminder pops up to remind me to check out
what new Oracle books have been released. I stumbled upon a new book
called CodeNotes for Oracle9i on Amazon.com, but the interesting part is
that it is available in eBook format. Here's the (probably broken)
link...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ISCN/qid=1034101493/sr
=1 -25/ref=sr_1_25/104-5919725-7522346?v=glance

The eBook version is $9.95 and the shipping is free (big grin), while the
paperback is $13.97 plus shipping. Are you comfortable reading an eBook?
You decide.

At any rate, I will probably break down and buy the eBook. Not so much
because the book is great (or not) but because I hope to send a message to
publishers to publish more books in the eBook format, which is also why I
posted this message.

I know that O'Reilly has the Safari Bookshelf website, but I found it to
be restrictive and pricey.

BTW, if for some reason you are or will be using .Net, the CodeNotes eBook
version is free...

http://www.codenotes.com/do/downloads/downloadsNETbook

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Rachel Carmichael

at Oct 14, 2002 at 9:59 pm

⇧

It's a little difficult to see how code samples and illustrations
(which I find invaluable) could be translated to audio....

It's technically copyright infringement (I believe) to translate the
books. I don't own the copyright, so I'm not about to call out the
lawyers. I am supposed to contact my publisher for permission (never
been refused, as it's publicity) when I want to use part of a chapter
for an article or presentation.

Besides, I have problems concentrating when I listen to books on tape,
so I'm not the best person to advocate this!

Joe Testa wrote:

I would think the authors should read and publish the books in .mp3
format, you can get like 10 hours worth on one cd.

Rachel how about you start,

bwahahahahahahaha

joe

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

I have an odd question about these on-line books. Can I
copy-and-paste the
text?
Like many of you, I seem to end up with long commutes (why are the best
jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find listening to books on CD to be a
better use of time than reading bumper stickers. Nobody ever seems to issue
Oracle books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice program, and it
works pretty
good to create an audio version of a book. But many of these eBooks
zealously protect their text and prevent you from doing
copy-and-paste on
the text. Fortunately Oracle makes their books readily available. Any ideas
are welcome. And my apologies to the authors on the list that are going "he
wants to do WHAT with my book!!".
Dennis Williams
DBA

Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I believe the Book Safari is changing. It is supposed
to be more flexible now.

http://www.oreilly.com/news/new_safari_0902.html

Jared

"Grabowy, Chris"
Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
10/08/2002 01:04 PM
Please respond to ORACLE-L

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
cc:
Subject: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

So every few months my Lookout reminder pops up to remind me to check out
what new Oracle books have been released. I stumbled upon a new book
called CodeNotes for Oracle9i on Amazon.com, but the interesting part is
that it is available in eBook format. Here's the (probably broken)
link...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ISCN/qid=1034101493/sr=1
-25/ref=sr_1_25/104-5919725-7522346?v=glance

The eBook version is $9.95 and the shipping is free (big grin), while the
paperback is $13.97 plus shipping. Are you comfortable reading an eBook?
You decide.

At any rate, I will probably break down and buy the eBook. Not so much
because the book is great (or not) but because I hope to send a
message to
publishers to publish more books in the eBook format, which is also why I
posted this message.

I know that O'Reilly has the Safari Bookshelf website, but I found it to
be restrictive and pricey.

BTW, if for some reason you are or will be using .Net, the CodeNotes eBook
version is free...

http://www.codenotes.com/do/downloads/downloadsNETbook

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Connor McDonald

at Oct 15, 2002 at 10:03 am

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There's always some idiot who wants to rain on the
parade, so it may as well be me. I can't remember the
specifics but a recent test in London showed that
people on (hands-free) phones in their cars were 'x'%
more likely to crash ('x' was somewhere like 50%!),
the test being designed to show that its not the phone
in your hand, its the fact that you're
talking/listening that ends up killing you...

I can't begin to imagine the traffic carnage when the
CD "DBA101: The sensual sultry sounds of Carmichael"
hits the charts!

Does Rachel really want that kind of responsbility :-)

Cheers
Connor

Rachel Carmichael wrote:

It's a little difficult to see how code samples and
illustrations
(which I find invaluable) could be translated to
audio....

It's technically copyright infringement (I believe)
to translate the
books. I don't own the copyright, so I'm not about
to call out the
lawyers. I am supposed to contact my publisher for
permission (never
been refused, as it's publicity) when I want to use
part of a chapter
for an article or presentation.

Besides, I have problems concentrating when I listen
to books on tape,
so I'm not the best person to advocate this!

--- Joe Testa wrote:

I would think the authors should read and publish
the books in .mp3
format, you can get like 10 hours worth on one cd.

Rachel how about you start,

bwahahahahahahaha

joe

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

I have an odd question about these on-line books.

Can I

copy-and-paste the

text?
Like many of you, I seem to end up with long

commutes (why are

the best

jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find

listening to books on CD

to be a

better use of time than reading bumper stickers.

Nobody ever seems

to issue

Oracle books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice

program, and it

works pretty

good to create an audio version of a book. But

many of these eBooks

zealously protect their text and prevent you from

doing

copy-and-paste on

the text. Fortunately Oracle makes their books

readily available.

Any ideas

are welcome. And my apologies to the authors on

the list that are

going "he

wants to do WHAT with my book!!".
Dennis Williams
DBA

Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I believe the Book Safari is changing. It is

supposed

to be more flexible now.

http://www.oreilly.com/news/new_safari_0902.html

Jared

"Grabowy, Chris"
Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
10/08/2002 01:04 PM
Please respond to ORACLE-L

To: Multiple recipients of list

ORACLE-L

cc:
Subject: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

So every few months my Lookout reminder pops up

to remind me to

check out

what new Oracle books have been released. I

stumbled upon a new

book

called CodeNotes for Oracle9i on Amazon.com, but

the interesting

part is

that it is available in eBook format. Here's the

(probably broken)

link...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ISCN/qid=1034101493/sr=1

-25/ref=sr_1_25/104-5919725-7522346?v=glance

The eBook version is $9.95 and the shipping is

free (big grin),

while the

paperback is $13.97 plus shipping. Are you

comfortable reading an

eBook?

You decide.

At any rate, I will probably break down and buy

the eBook. Not so

much

because the book is great (or not) but because I

hope to send a

message to

publishers to publish more books in the eBook

format, which is also

why I

posted this message.

I know that O'Reilly has the Safari Bookshelf

website, but I found

it to

be restrictive and pricey.

BTW, if for some reason you are or will be using

.Net, the CodeNotes

eBook

version is free...

http://www.codenotes.com/do/downloads/downloadsNETbook

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Yechiel Adar

at Oct 15, 2002 at 1:48 pm

⇧

The studies I remember on the subject say that talking while driving put you
in the same risk factor as drunk driving .

Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:03 PM

There's always some idiot who wants to rain on the
parade, so it may as well be me. I can't remember the
specifics but a recent test in London showed that
people on (hands-free) phones in their cars were 'x'%
more likely to crash ('x' was somewhere like 50%!),
the test being designed to show that its not the phone
in your hand, its the fact that you're
talking/listening that ends up killing you...

I can't begin to imagine the traffic carnage when the
CD "DBA101: The sensual sultry sounds of Carmichael"
hits the charts!

Does Rachel really want that kind of responsbility :-)

Cheers
Connor

--- Rachel Carmichael wrote:

It's a little difficult to see how code samples and
illustrations
(which I find invaluable) could be translated to
audio....

It's technically copyright infringement (I believe)
to translate the
books. I don't own the copyright, so I'm not about
to call out the
lawyers. I am supposed to contact my publisher for
permission (never
been refused, as it's publicity) when I want to use
part of a chapter
for an article or presentation.

Besides, I have problems concentrating when I listen
to books on tape,
so I'm not the best person to advocate this!

--- Joe Testa wrote:

I would think the authors should read and publish
the books in .mp3
format, you can get like 10 hours worth on one cd.

Rachel how about you start,

bwahahahahahahaha

joe

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

I have an odd question about these on-line books.

Can I

copy-and-paste the

text?
Like many of you, I seem to end up with long

commutes (why are

the best

jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find

listening to books on CD

to be a

better use of time than reading bumper stickers.

Nobody ever seems

to issue

Oracle books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice

program, and it

works pretty

good to create an audio version of a book. But

many of these eBooks

zealously protect their text and prevent you from

doing

copy-and-paste on

the text. Fortunately Oracle makes their books

readily available.

Any ideas

are welcome. And my apologies to the authors on

the list that are

going "he

wants to do WHAT with my book!!".
Dennis Williams
DBA

Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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I believe the Book Safari is changing. It is

supposed

to be more flexible now.

http://www.oreilly.com/news/new_safari_0902.html

Jared

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So every few months my Lookout reminder pops up

to remind me to

check out

what new Oracle books have been released. I

stumbled upon a new

book

called CodeNotes for Oracle9i on Amazon.com, but

the interesting

part is

that it is available in eBook format. Here's the

(probably broken)

link...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ISCN/qid=1034101493/sr=

1

-25/ref=sr_1_25/104-5919725-7522346?v=glance

The eBook version is $9.95 and the shipping is

free (big grin),

while the

paperback is $13.97 plus shipping. Are you

comfortable reading an

eBook?

You decide.

At any rate, I will probably break down and buy

the eBook. Not so

much

because the book is great (or not) but because I

hope to send a

message to

publishers to publish more books in the eBook

format, which is also

why I

posted this message.

I know that O'Reilly has the Safari Bookshelf

website, but I found

it to

be restrictive and pricey.

BTW, if for some reason you are or will be using

.Net, the CodeNotes

eBook

version is free...

http://www.codenotes.com/do/downloads/downloadsNETbook

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Jesse, Rich

at Oct 15, 2002 at 2:34 pm

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Thank Goodness. Now I can go back to that 4-pak of Guinness on my 25-mile
drive to work. Whew! THAT'll make the day go easier.

Rich

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Subject: Re: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

The studies I remember on the subject say that talking while
driving put you
in the same risk factor as drunk driving .

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Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil

at Oct 15, 2002 at 5:03 pm

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Yeah, hearing the Goddess describe "massaging the 'data'" in sultry detail
would surely be a distraction...

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210.581.6217

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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:03 AM
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There's always some idiot who wants to rain on the
parade, so it may as well be me. I can't remember the
specifics but a recent test in London showed that
people on (hands-free) phones in their cars were 'x'%
more likely to crash ('x' was somewhere like 50%!),
the test being designed to show that its not the phone
in your hand, its the fact that you're
talking/listening that ends up killing you...

I can't begin to imagine the traffic carnage when the
CD "DBA101: The sensual sultry sounds of Carmichael"
hits the charts!

Does Rachel really want that kind of responsbility :-)

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Rachel Carmichael

at Oct 15, 2002 at 5:03 pm

⇧

God no! I'd better let my (male) co-author do the audiotaping :)

I've never understood why talking on a hands-free phone is less
distracting than talking on a phone you have to hold

Connor McDonald wrote:

There's always some idiot who wants to rain on the
parade, so it may as well be me. I can't remember the
specifics but a recent test in London showed that
people on (hands-free) phones in their cars were 'x'%
more likely to crash ('x' was somewhere like 50%!),
the test being designed to show that its not the phone
in your hand, its the fact that you're
talking/listening that ends up killing you...

I can't begin to imagine the traffic carnage when the
CD "DBA101: The sensual sultry sounds of Carmichael"
hits the charts!

Does Rachel really want that kind of responsbility :-)

Cheers
Connor

--- Rachel Carmichael wrote:

It's a little difficult to see how code samples and
illustrations
(which I find invaluable) could be translated to
audio....

It's technically copyright infringement (I believe)
to translate the
books. I don't own the copyright, so I'm not about
to call out the
lawyers. I am supposed to contact my publisher for
permission (never
been refused, as it's publicity) when I want to use
part of a chapter
for an article or presentation.

Besides, I have problems concentrating when I listen
to books on tape,
so I'm not the best person to advocate this!

--- Joe Testa wrote:

I would think the authors should read and publish
the books in .mp3
format, you can get like 10 hours worth on one cd.

Rachel how about you start,

bwahahahahahahaha

joe

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

I have an odd question about these on-line books.

Can I

copy-and-paste the

text?
Like many of you, I seem to end up with long

commutes (why are

the best

jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find

listening to books on CD

to be a

better use of time than reading bumper stickers.

Nobody ever seems

to issue

Oracle books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice

program, and it

works pretty

good to create an audio version of a book. But

many of these eBooks

zealously protect their text and prevent you from

doing

copy-and-paste on

the text. Fortunately Oracle makes their books

readily available.

Any ideas

are welcome. And my apologies to the authors on

the list that are

going "he

wants to do WHAT with my book!!".
Dennis Williams
DBA

Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I believe the Book Safari is changing. It is

supposed

to be more flexible now.

http://www.oreilly.com/news/new_safari_0902.html

Jared

"Grabowy, Chris"
Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
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Subject: CodeNotes for Oracle9i...

So every few months my Lookout reminder pops up

to remind me to

check out

what new Oracle books have been released. I

stumbled upon a new

book

called CodeNotes for Oracle9i on Amazon.com, but

the interesting

part is

that it is available in eBook format. Here's the

(probably broken)

link...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006ISCN/qid=1034101493/sr=1

-25/ref=sr_1_25/104-5919725-7522346?v=glance

The eBook version is $9.95 and the shipping is

free (big grin),

while the

paperback is $13.97 plus shipping. Are you

comfortable reading an

eBook?

You decide.

At any rate, I will probably break down and buy

the eBook. Not so

much

because the book is great (or not) but because I

hope to send a

message to

publishers to publish more books in the eBook

format, which is also

why I

posted this message.

I know that O'Reilly has the Safari Bookshelf

website, but I found

it to

be restrictive and pricey.

BTW, if for some reason you are or will be using

.Net, the CodeNotes

eBook

version is free...

http://www.codenotes.com/do/downloads/downloadsNETbook

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I have an odd question about these on-line books. Can I
copy-and-paste the text?
Like many of you, I seem to end up with long commutes (why
are the best jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find
listening to books on CD to be a better use of time than
reading bumper stickers. Nobody ever seems to issue Oracle
books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice program, and it
works pretty good to create an audio version of a book. But
many of these eBooks zealously protect their text and prevent
you from doing copy-and-paste on the text. Fortunately Oracle
makes their books readily available. Any ideas are welcome.
And my apologies to the authors on the list that are going
"he wants to do WHAT with my book!!". Dennis Williams DBA
Lifetouch, Inc. dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

Dennnis

Did you get any more info re books on tape? Id be very interestd
in audio documentation;-) I have a boring 1 hour ride each direction

Thanks

bob

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DENNIS WILLIAMS

at Oct 21, 2002 at 10:53 pm

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Bob

Thanks for asking. No, most of the replies were along the lines that I'd
be less of a road hazard were I drunk with a cell phone in each ear.

But knowing someone else is interested is encouraging. Given the easy
access to broadband, maybe we could arrange some audio file swaps. Shouldn't
be too illegal, assuming you already own the texts in print format. And only
slightly less moral than driving with the radio on.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP

Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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I have an odd question about these on-line books. Can I
copy-and-paste the text?
Like many of you, I seem to end up with long commutes (why
are the best jobs never in your neighborhood?). I find
listening to books on CD to be a better use of time than
reading bumper stickers. Nobody ever seems to issue Oracle
books on audio. So I got a text-to-voice program, and it
works pretty good to create an audio version of a book. But
many of these eBooks zealously protect their text and prevent
you from doing copy-and-paste on the text. Fortunately Oracle
makes their books readily available. Any ideas are welcome.
And my apologies to the authors on the list that are going
"he wants to do WHAT with my book!!". Dennis Williams DBA
Lifetouch, Inc. dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

Dennnis

Did you get any more info re books on tape? Id be very interestd
in audio documentation;-) I have a boring 1 hour ride each direction

Thanks

bob

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