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Microsoft dropping Java code from Windows XP

In the wake of a January legal settlement with Java owner Sun Microsystems,
Microsoft plans to ship its Windows XP operating system without the code needed
to run Java applications.

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  • Schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com at Jul 18, 2001 at 11:32 pm
    Plus the default security setting for their browser will now be HIGH instead
    of MEDIUM, which will disallow running Java applets, even if you do install
    a Java Virtual Machine.
    Microsoft dropping Java code from Windows XP

    In the wake of a January legal settlement with Java owner Sun
    Microsystems,
    Microsoft plans to ship its Windows XP operating system
    without the code needed
    to run Java applications.

    http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO62358_NLTAM%2C00.html
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  • Post, Ethan at Jul 19, 2001 at 12:15 am
    For a good read check out Steve Gibson's article on XP, "Why Windows XP will
    be the DOS Tool of Choice".

    http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm

    Ethan
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    Plus the default security setting for their browser will now be HIGH instead
    of MEDIUM, which will disallow running Java applets, even if you do install
    a Java Virtual Machine.
    Microsoft dropping Java code from Windows XP

    In the wake of a January legal settlement with Java owner Sun
    Microsystems,
    Microsoft plans to ship its Windows XP operating system
    without the code needed
    to run Java applications.

    http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO62358_NLTAM%2C00.html
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  • Guy Hammond at Jul 20, 2001 at 9:04 am
    See, I don't get it. Microsoft bundle a bunch of stuff with their OS,
    and the anti-MS camp complain about Microsoft's so-called monopoly (or
    monopolistic practices, which aren't the same thing). And then Microsoft
    don't bundle some stuff with their OS, and the exact same people start
    complaining again... about what exactly? You can still download Java
    onto Windows easily, it's no big deal, what is the problem here?

    g

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    Microsoft dropping Java code from Windows XP

    In the wake of a January legal settlement with Java owner Sun
    Microsystems,
    Microsoft plans to ship its Windows XP operating system without the code
    needed
    to run Java applications.

    http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO62358_NLTAM%2C00.html

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  • Schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com at Jul 20, 2001 at 10:27 pm

    See, I don't get it. Microsoft bundle a bunch of stuff with their OS,
    and the anti-MS camp complain about Microsoft's so-called monopoly (or
    monopolistic practices, which aren't the same thing). And
    then Microsoft
    don't bundle some stuff with their OS, and the exact same people start
    complaining again... about what exactly? You can still download Java
    onto Windows easily, it's no big deal, what is the problem here?
    Any time a vendor with such a huge market share includes or excludes
    something from their OS, it has a huge impact. IF MS had stopped including
    Internet Explorer in their OS, and the user had to go download something to
    get a web browser, it's likely Navigator might still have a good chunk of
    the browser market. But MS made it easy for users to get to a browser
    (bundling IE), and most users will take the path of least resistance.

    A JVM download is what .... 5+ MEG? Most of the world is still connecting
    via modem. Tell the average person he's going to have to do a 5 MEG
    download over a modem, and then some sort of installation that might screw
    up his machine, and he's going to say "Forget it, I'll do without my
    scrolling stock ticker". Or he'll switch to one that doesn't use Java.

    If a good percentage of the users of an OS that constitutes most of the
    total consumer market will not take the time to download and install JVM,
    developers are going to assume Java may not be available on a lot of the
    machines out there. Most developers want to reach the broadest possible
    audience with their products. So they might decide to pick a different,
    more "universally" available language to code with. One that can be run on
    a Windows user's machine without requiring a big download and installation
    of a virtual machine. Quite possibly a Microsoft language like C# or VB.
    And since C# is pretty similar to Java, the transition from one to the other
    might not be that tough.

    So yes, MS dropping the bundling of Java is a big deal. Everything they do
    at the OS level is a big deal. It makes it that much more likely that Java
    will be a niche language, and that much more likely that something like C#
    will gain in popularity. Whether that's good or bad will depend on your own
    viewpoints.

    Dave

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