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Sriram,
Cherokee is not yet available and there are no papers on the Oracle or
Technet sites yet, although there will be shortly.
A sneak preview of Cherokee was published in the last ODTUG journal which
provides a good overview to the tool.

Anyway - the one paragraph overview:

"Oracle Project Cherokee is a standards-based, declarative development tool
for building high-performance, scaleable HTML transactional data-aware
components which can be embedded into any JSP or Oracle Portal Page. It
combines powerful transactional processing as well as a very rich
interactive HTML UI with an ultra-lightweight HTML footprint. Applications
run natively in commonly used browsers such as Internet Explorer and
Netscape. "

Regards

Duncan Mills
Oracle Forms Product Management
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 12:30 AM
Friends,

What is Cherokee? is it a forms replacement? Where can I find more on it. I
did
try digging thru the ORACLE website but could not locate any white papers
etc..

Thanks

Sriram


-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of Openshaw, Michael
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
Subject: RE: Forms going away?


Cherokee will substantially improve the issue, but it still will have a
problem as far as I'm concerned. That is the need to load a specific
component (about 200K in Cherokee's case, as opposed to
Jinitiator) to work
with a standard browser.

The Web was *supposed* to get us away from controlling client
configurations; that's why I like Webserver Generation, where
browser-sensitivity is minimized (unless you specifically code for it).
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Walski [ j w a l s k i 3 @ c l a s s i c p l a n . c o m ]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:32 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
Subject: Re: Forms going away?

That was my thoughts exactly. I figure they _have_ to support
it for who
knows how long, but as far as new functionality, what you see
is what you
get.

I would *love* to see this Project Cherokee perform as
described. Oracle
Forms over the Internet is poor at best. I just can't get my
hopes up, as
Oracle is great at marketing and as for delivering....?

Jim




-----Original Message-----
To: O D T U G - D E V 2 K - L @ f a t c i t y . c o m
Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:15 PM

Jim, Forms will be around for a Loooong time. Simply because
Oracle will
not kill it until Oracle Apps moves off of it (and we all know
the speed
at
which Oracle Apps moves forward; calling it glacial would be kind.)

Will forms be continually enhanced? I would doubt it, past the next
12
months or so. The chances of a Forms 8 every seeing the light
of day is
about the same as Egypt winning the Olympic gold medal in hockey.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Walski
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:20 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
Subject: Forms going away?

I keep hearing that Forms will continually be enhanced for a
long time.
However, I sure find it very interesting that Oracle is building a
Migration
utility to move your Forms .fmb to Cherokee files.

Quote from an email received from Susan Duncan

"...We have a team of developers who are working on a
migration utility
to
migrate Developer Forms to Cherokee modules.... "

Sure sounds like all new features will be added in Cherokee.
Of course
knowing the speed of Oracle development I won't hold my breath for
an
early
release of Cherokee.
...

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  • Grabowy, Chris at Mar 26, 2001 at 8:54 pm
    The presentation at the below link might also provide you with some
    additional info.

    http://www.seouc.org/Details/13.htm

    Chris
    "May Oracle be with you...always"

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    Sriram,
    Cherokee is not yet available and there are no papers on the Oracle or
    Technet sites yet, although there will be shortly.
    A sneak preview of Cherokee was published in the last ODTUG journal which
    provides a good overview to the tool.

    Anyway - the one paragraph overview:

    "Oracle Project Cherokee is a standards-based, declarative development tool
    for building high-performance, scaleable HTML transactional data-aware
    components which can be embedded into any JSP or Oracle Portal Page. It
    combines powerful transactional processing as well as a very rich
    interactive HTML UI with an ultra-lightweight HTML footprint. Applications
    run natively in commonly used browsers such as Internet Explorer and
    Netscape. "

    Regards

    Duncan Mills
    Oracle Forms Product Management
    ----- Original Message -----
    To: O D T U G - D E V 2 K - L @ f a t c i t y . c o m
    Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 12:30 AM
    Friends,

    What is Cherokee? is it a forms replacement? Where can I find more on it. I
    did
    try digging thru the ORACLE website but could not locate any white papers
    etc..

    Thanks

    Sriram


    -----Original Message-----
    From: On Behalf Of Openshaw, Michael
    Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:30 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
    Subject: RE: Forms going away?


    Cherokee will substantially improve the issue, but it still will have a
    problem as far as I'm concerned. That is the need to load a specific
    component (about 200K in Cherokee's case, as opposed to
    Jinitiator) to work
    with a standard browser.

    The Web was *supposed* to get us away from controlling client
    configurations; that's why I like Webserver Generation, where
    browser-sensitivity is minimized (unless you specifically code for it).
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim Walski [ j w a l s k i 3 @ c l a s s i c p l a n . c o m ]
    Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:32 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
    Subject: Re: Forms going away?

    That was my thoughts exactly. I figure they _have_ to support
    it for who
    knows how long, but as far as new functionality, what you see
    is what you
    get.

    I would *love* to see this Project Cherokee perform as
    described. Oracle
    Forms over the Internet is poor at best. I just can't get my
    hopes up, as
    Oracle is great at marketing and as for delivering....?

    Jim




    -----Original Message-----
    To: O D T U G - D E V 2 K - L @ f a t c i t y . c o m
    Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:15 PM

    Jim, Forms will be around for a Loooong time. Simply because
    Oracle will
    not kill it until Oracle Apps moves off of it (and we all know
    the speed
    at
    which Oracle Apps moves forward; calling it glacial would be kind.)

    Will forms be continually enhanced? I would doubt it, past the next
    12
    months or so. The chances of a Forms 8 every seeing the light
    of day is
    about the same as Egypt winning the Olympic gold medal in hockey.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim Walski
    Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:20 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
    Subject: Forms going away?

    I keep hearing that Forms will continually be enhanced for a
    long time.
    However, I sure find it very interesting that Oracle is building a
    Migration
    utility to move your Forms .fmb to Cherokee files.

    Quote from an email received from Susan Duncan

    "...We have a team of developers who are working on a
    migration utility
    to
    migrate Developer Forms to Cherokee modules.... "

    Sure sounds like all new features will be added in Cherokee.
    Of course
    knowing the speed of Oracle development I won't hold my breath for
    an
    early
    release of Cherokee.
    ...

    To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
    to:
    L i s t G u r u @ f a t c i t y . c o m
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    also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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