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Hi List,

I suppose this isn't strictly CentOS but I'm talking about some 5.5
servers so I thought someone else here may have had the same issues;

We power on servers at night via IPMI and shut them down the same way
for automation. The problem I'm facing is that the servers are
shutdown in about 2 seconds. IPMI provides remote access to the power
features as we know so I don't think the OS has a chance to do a
'graceful' shutdown.

One server in particular is told to shutdown at say 07:00am, the last
scheduled task on there should finish around 06:30 so there is a half
hour window for over run. It now has a corrupt XFS file system which I
am repairing as we speak. I am wondering if this could be a possible
cause of these problems? Perhaps if that last tasks over runs a couple
of times and it gets powered off in the middle of the tasks? (These
are backup servers rsyncing from other servers)

Does anyone here have problems with this?

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  • Adam Tauno Williams at Apr 6, 2011 at 6:35 am

    On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 11:06 +0100, James Bensley wrote:
    Hi List,
    We power on servers at night via IPMI and shut them down the same way
    for automation. The problem I'm facing is that the servers are
    shutdown in about 2 seconds. IPMI provides remote access to the power
    features as we know so I don't think the OS has a chance to do a
    'graceful' shutdown.
    ??? Why are you doing this? Don't do this. Just do a "shutdown" at the
    OS level - which will power off the server on 99.44% of hardware. Then
    power-on using IPMI.
    One server in particular is told to shutdown at say 07:00am, the last
    scheduled task on there should finish around 06:30 so there is a half
    hour window for over run. It now has a corrupt XFS file system which I
    am repairing as we speak. I am wondering if this could be a possible
    cause of these problems?
    Yes. What you are doing is *evil*.
    Perhaps if that last tasks over runs a couple
    of times and it gets powered off in the middle of the tasks? (These
    are backup servers rsyncing from other servers)
    Not to mention that your task possibly didn't finish.
    Does anyone here have problems with this?
    Yes. What you are doing is bad and wrong.

    "shutdown -h now" will give you an immediate shutdown and power-off the
    box. You can also schedule shutdown via shutdown, see "man shutdown".
  • Ross Walker at Apr 6, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:06 AM, James Bensley wrote:

    Hi List,

    I suppose this isn't strictly CentOS but I'm talking about some 5.5
    servers so I thought someone else here may have had the same issues;

    We power on servers at night via IPMI and shut them down the same way
    for automation. The problem I'm facing is that the servers are
    shutdown in about 2 seconds. IPMI provides remote access to the power
    features as we know so I don't think the OS has a chance to do a
    'graceful' shutdown.

    One server in particular is told to shutdown at say 07:00am, the last
    scheduled task on there should finish around 06:30 so there is a half
    hour window for over run. It now has a corrupt XFS file system which I
    am repairing as we speak. I am wondering if this could be a possible
    cause of these problems? Perhaps if that last tasks over runs a couple
    of times and it gets powered off in the middle of the tasks? (These
    are backup servers rsyncing from other servers)

    Does anyone here have problems with this?
    File systems are memory based objects that (loosely) don't exist on disk until shutdown. You yank out the power, who knows what you'll get, and it doesn't matter when the last job ran because the OS can be running house keeping functions on the file system in the background.

    -Ross

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