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  • Alan Bartlett at Apr 4, 2011 at 8:48 am

    On 4 April 2011 13:40, Matthew Miller wrote:

    I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there
    doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
    Matthew,

    Please tell me that I am not in a time warp or falling into a black hole.

    How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion
    of "a couple of weeks without news"?

    Regards,
    Alan.

    [1] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id)685&forumS
  • Matthew Miller at Apr 4, 2011 at 8:58 am

    On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:48:50PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
    I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there
    doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
    Please tell me that I am not in a time warp or falling into a black hole.
    I'm sorry, I didn't see that one. The formatting on the forum is a bit
    confusing to me, as the "Posted on" dates for the _previous_ posts are in
    the same white block as the titles for the next one.
    How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion
    of "a couple of weeks without news"?
    Well, it certainly has been a couple of weeks without news here on the
    CentOS developers' mailing list. It would be really helpful if you could
    make short updates here as well.

    I also don't see anything new on CentOS 6.



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  • Olaf Mueller at Apr 4, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Matthew Miller wrote:
    On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:48:50PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
    How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your
    assertion of "a couple of weeks without news"?
    [...] It would be really helpful if you
    could make short updates here as well.
    +1

    regards
    Olaf
  • Alan Bartlett at Apr 4, 2011 at 9:35 am

    On 4 April 2011 14:05, Olaf Mueller wrote:
    Matthew Miller wrote:
    On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:48:50PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:

    How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your
    assertion of "a couple of weeks without news"?
    [...] It would be really helpful if you
    could make short updates here as well.
    +1
    O.k. folks.

    Please note that this m/l is for discussions regarding the development
    of products released by the CentOS Project or the development of the
    CentOS Project itself. It is not designed as a means of "talking" to
    CentOS developers about "this", "that" or "the other". The main
    mailing list [2] is the correct location for such I/O. Announcements
    are made on the CentOS-Announce [3] mailing list.

    That said, I will reproduce the quotation just posted to the forum
    thread relating to the CentOS 5.6 release status [4,1]:

    [quote]
    5.6 is going out to the external mirrors at the moment, I am going to have
    torrents ready for later today and then maybe release announcement sometime
    tomorrow.
    [/quote]

    Regards,
    Alan.

    [2] http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
    [3] http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
    [4] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id)685&start=0#forumpost130184
  • Matthew Miller at Apr 4, 2011 at 9:57 am

    On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:35:19PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
    Please note that this m/l is for discussions regarding the development
    of products released by the CentOS Project or the development of the
    CentOS Project itself. It is not designed as a means of "talking" to
    CentOS developers about "this", "that" or "the other".
    I'm confused by this message. Are you suggesting that CentOS 5.6 and CentOS
    6 are not products of the CentOS project?

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  • Alan Bartlett at Apr 4, 2011 at 10:03 am

    On 4 April 2011 14:57, Matthew Miller wrote:
    On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:35:19PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:

    Please note that this m/l is for discussions regarding the development
    of products released by the CentOS Project or the development of the
    CentOS Project itself. It is not designed as a means of "talking" to
    CentOS developers about "this", "that" or "the other".
    I'm confused by this message. Are you suggesting that CentOS 5.6 and CentOS
    6 are not products of the CentOS project?
    Sorry Matthew,

    In a general attempt to clarify the purpose of this mailing list, I
    have then caused your confusion. Please regard my clarification as to
    the list readers as a whole and not to yourself nor you query,
    specifically. ;-)

    Alan.
  • Matthew Miller at Apr 4, 2011 at 10:06 am

    On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 03:03:35PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote:
    In a general attempt to clarify the purpose of this mailing list, I
    have then caused your confusion. Please regard my clarification as to
    the list readers as a whole and not to yourself nor you query,
    specifically. ;-)
    Okay, whew. I agree that the list could certainly _use_ that clarification
    recently.

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    Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/>
  • Alan Bartlett at Apr 4, 2011 at 10:12 am

    On 4 April 2011 15:06, Matthew Miller wrote:

    Okay, whew. I agree that the list could certainly _use_ that clarification
    recently.
    ACK.

    Alan.
  • Brian Mathis at Apr 4, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Alan Bartlett wrote:
    On 4 April 2011 13:40, Matthew Miller wrote:

    I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there
    doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
    Matthew,

    Please tell me that I am not in a time warp or falling into a black hole.

    How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion
    of "a couple of weeks without news"?

    Regards,
    Alan.

    [1] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id)685&forumS

    I'm completely flabbergasted that, given all of the arguing, you
    didn't think to post any of these status updates to the mailing lists?
    The MLs have been a powder keg for months and you never thought to
    mention these updates in any of those threads? Or realized that no
    one was reading the forum and additionally posted them to the MLs?

    Doing such a simple thing would've seriously prevented a large amount
    of noise had this been posted to the MLs as a new message, under its
    own subject to each list (Main and Devel).

    The whole point of everyone's complaining has simply been lack of information.


    // Brian Mathis
  • Ned Slider at Apr 4, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    On 04/04/11 18:27, Brian Mathis wrote:
    On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Alan Bartlettwrote:
    On 4 April 2011 13:40, Matthew Millerwrote:
    I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there
    doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
    Matthew,

    Please tell me that I am not in a time warp or falling into a black hole.

    How does my last posting [1] (dated 2011/3/31) fit into your assertion
    of "a couple of weeks without news"?

    Regards,
    Alan.

    [1] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id)685&forumS

    I'm completely flabbergasted that...
    Brian,

    No disrespect, but I'm equally flabbergasted that you have the nerve to
    criticise Alan who has reached out to the CentOS developers for
    information and relayed it to the part of the CentOS community for which
    he is responsible (i.e, the forums). Perhaps if someone from the MLs
    similarly stepped up and showed some initiative/leadership, or even just
    coordinated with Alan, then you might have a clue what goes on around
    here rather than waiting for something to magically appear in your inbox.
  • Karanbir Singh at Apr 4, 2011 at 9:29 am
    Hi,
    On 04/04/2011 01:40 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
    I checked the web forum in case there was something new there, and there
    doesn't appear to be. It's been a couple of weeks without news. Thanks.
    External mirrors should start seeing the 5.6 tree about now, along with
    updates etc. I hope to have torrents up later today and perhaps release
    announcement from there. We have cleaned up the msync stuff quite a bit
    since 5.4 days, so hopefully we can repeat the 5.5 release process where
    we got external mirrors sync'd in under 24 hrs.

    On the other hand, we have had over 200 new mirrors since 5.5 release!
    So lets see how that pans out.

    re: 6, I'm still saying 2 - 3 weeks from 5.6 Announcement. In more
    tangible terms : short of 60 pkgs, 6.0 is all done. But keep in mind
    this is the distro 'tree', much fun to be had after that with anaconda,
    mirror setups, yum policies etc. ( so if anyone has kickstarts, test
    scripts : specially for acceptance and integration; do share ).

    - KB
  • Matthew Miller at Apr 4, 2011 at 9:52 am

    On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:29:06PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
    External mirrors should start seeing the 5.6 tree about now, along with
    updates etc. I hope to have torrents up later today and perhaps release
    announcement from there. We have cleaned up the msync stuff quite a bit
    since 5.4 days, so hopefully we can repeat the 5.5 release process where
    we got external mirrors sync'd in under 24 hrs.
    On the other hand, we have had over 200 new mirrors since 5.5 release!
    So lets see how that pans out.
    Thanks. I'll be looking for it.
    re: 6, I'm still saying 2 - 3 weeks from 5.6 Announcement. In more
    tangible terms : short of 60 pkgs, 6.0 is all done. But keep in mind
    this is the distro 'tree', much fun to be had after that with anaconda,
    mirror setups, yum policies etc. ( so if anyone has kickstarts, test
    scripts : specially for acceptance and integration; do share ).
    Are plans in place for 6.1?

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    Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/>
  • Alex/AT at Apr 4, 2011 at 10:05 am
    B.S. Have no relation (alas) to the CentOS team, except that I am proud
    CentOS user as well as probably you xD
    Are plans in place for 6.1?
    Most probably, it's not even considered now, taking 6.0 release pending
    into account. After 6.0 is ready (and it will take the great CentOS team a
    bit of time) they maybe will attend to the 6.1 challenge along with the
    updates for 5 series, 5.6 and 6.0.

    IMO (and just IMO), it was bad idea to process both 5.6 and 6.0 at the
    same time. It got worse on the release time, and got terrible delay. Doing
    two independent things at once is really bad thing therefore.
  • Karanbir Singh at Apr 4, 2011 at 10:18 am

    On 04/04/2011 02:52 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
    re: 6, I'm still saying 2 - 3 weeks from 5.6 Announcement. In more
    tangible terms : short of 60 pkgs, 6.0 is all done. But keep in mind
    this is the distro 'tree', much fun to be had after that with anaconda,
    mirror setups, yum policies etc. ( so if anyone has kickstarts, test
    scripts : specially for acceptance and integration; do share ).
    Are plans in place for 6.1?
    Yes and No

    CentOS-6 is going to be the first distro we build and release with end
    to end automation. However, there are a few critical issues that we need
    to solve fairly soon. How well we can do 6.1 will depend on those issues.

    By the end of this week, I'll get these things written up and posted to
    the list. Lets try, once again, and see if there can be some
    constructive conversations.

    - KB
  • Matthew Miller at Apr 4, 2011 at 11:04 am

    On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 03:18:42PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
    CentOS-6 is going to be the first distro we build and release with end
    to end automation. However, there are a few critical issues that we need
    to solve fairly soon. How well we can do 6.1 will depend on those issues.

    By the end of this week, I'll get these things written up and posted to
    the list. Lets try, once again, and see if there can be some
    constructive conversations.
    Awesome. Thanks again.

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    Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/>

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