@Will: Patch works perfectly with PHP 5.3. There is just a minor issue
related to APC not caching instances.
That patch didn't reach a consensus and that's why I opened a
different thread to implement a patch based on poll results.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Will Fitch wrote:
Wow. I should actually look at the RFCs more frequently.

I have to say, assuming the patch is valid for PHP 5.3 (which I have no
doubt it is), I don't see why this can't be taken more seriously.  I know
the discussion was brought up a few weeks ago, but what are the objections
to injecting this functionality into the next major post-5.4 release?
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Alec wrote:

The patch is already written and a RFC created by Guilherme:
http://wiki.php.net/rfc/annotations .

I personally think annotations could make a *great* addition to PHP.

I agree with Will that annotations are especially useful for SOAP and
XML-RPC. I personally think annotations are useful for APIs in general.

Instead of creating a method to respond to a XML-RPC call, then binding it
to a specific XML-RPC call with a line in the initialization you could just
do this:

name : "server.getValue",
params : {
param1 : {
type : "number",
docs : "This is documentation for param1"
public getValForXMLRPC ($param) {

I just used JSON for the syntax of annotation. I did this for two reasons:
1. most PHP developers can write some Javascript, and 2. since this is
supposed to avoid syntax discussions, I used a syntax no one uses for
annotations, but everyone understands.

The possibilities are endless with Annotations and as long as they are
pretty speedy I think they would be picked up quite quickly and we would get
some great examples from the community.

My 2 cents.


On 11/15/2010 6:54 PM, Will Fitch wrote:

I have certainly wanted them many times - especially when using SOAP.
Having WSDL auto-generation without compromising developer
documentation and attempting to have user-land code parse phpdoc for this
purpose seem{ed,s} counterintuitive.  That said, introducing annotations
a HUGE undertaking and would require a ton of work with potentially little
return.  I do think it would be worth looking into in a future major
release, but there are quite a few other things that would be more
beneficial to the community for immediate discussions.

Did anyone write and RFC on this? guilhermeblanco has a good start.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Pierre Joye<pierre.php@gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Zeev Suraskiwrote:
Suggesting phpdoc is used for the purposes mentioned does not mean we
don't understand what we're talking about.

I feel like you never used annotations in other languages, did you?


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