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Amen!


-cmort




On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Paul Madsen wrote:

this reminds me of the IETF SCIM-reacronymizing exercise

the group was approved & chartered under the name 'Native SSO' . Those who
understand what the intent of the work is all agree that the name is an
accurate description of the work.

Tony didnt like the name as proposed in the charter - but it was approved
nonetheless.

So why are we still arguing?

paul

ps. I wonder if the proposers of 'Backplane', or ' AB/Connect' ,both
wonderfully descriptive, faced the same

On 7/17/13 3:07 PM, Mike Jones wrote:

So you?d prefer that the work be called something closer to ?Native
Application Authorization??****

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*From:* Anthony Nadalin
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:50 AM
*To:* Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau
*Cc:* Mike Jones; John Bradley; specs at openid.net; John Ehrig
*Subject:* RE: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group****

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I would have been too young back in the 90s****

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I don?t like SSO in the name as this is basically this is just a way to
authorize an app to interact with one or more resource serves on your behalf
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*From:* Paul Madsen [mailto:paulmadsen at rogers.com <paulmadsen@rogers.com>]

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:39 AM
*To:* Don Thibeau
*Cc:* Anthony Nadalin; Mike Jones; John Bradley; specs at openid.net; John
Ehrig
*Subject:* Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group****

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I am 99% confident that *our* beloved Tony was not part of the R&B group
from Oakland, briefly popular in the 90s.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony!_Toni!_Ton%C3%A9<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony%21_Toni%21_Ton%C3%A9>
!****

On 7/17/13 2:33 PM, Don Thibeau wrote:****

Paul ****

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I don't think "Tony Tony Tony" is a good name for a working group :)****

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Don Thibeau****

The OpenID Foundation <http://openid.net>****

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On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Paul Madsen wrote:****

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Tony Tony Tony, how I've missed our time together

The WG's mandate is to profile OIDC to enable an SSO model for native
mobile applications.

Can you suggest a better (concise & memorable) descriptor for a mail list
identifier?

paul****

On 7/17/13 2:17 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:****

That?s a totally useless name ****

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*From:* openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net [
mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net<openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net>]
*On Behalf Of *Paul Madsen
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:59 AM
*To:* Mike Jones
*Cc:* John Bradley; specs at openid.net; John Ehrig; Don Thibeau
*Subject:* Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group****

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that list name is fine

thanks****

On 7/17/13 1:51 PM, Mike Jones wrote:****

John, are you able to create the new mailing list at lists.openid.net or
do we have to ask support at osuosl.org for the list creation?****

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Paul and other WG creators, what name do you want the list to have?
openid-specs-native-sso?****

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-- Mike****

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*From:* Don Thibeau [mailto:don at oidf.org <don@oidf.org>]
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:03 AM
*To:* Paul Madsen
*Cc:* n-sakimura; John Ehrig; openid-specs at lists.openid.net; John
Bradley; Mike Jones
*Subject:* Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group****

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John Ehrig can set up the web site space and the online Docusign process
for IPR collection. If done right away it saves all concerned lots of time
and hassle.****

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Don Thibeau****

The OpenID Foundation <http://openid.net/>****

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On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Paul Madsen wrote:****




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Thanks Nat,

Don, can you direct me to whomever I should work with on the WG list &
page logistics?

Paul****

On 7/16/13 6:08 AM, n-sakimura wrote:****

The WG formation is deemed to be approved per section 4.2 of the OpenID
Process Document v.1.5 of 2009.

A new mailing list should be established promptly per section 4.3 of the
above document. Also, a WG web pages should be set up at openid.net. You
should also ask the secretary of the foundation to announce the first
meeting of the WG, in which scope approval and the chairs selection should
be done.

Note: the first meeting can only be done after the WG has collected the
IPR agreement from the participants, so it may not be as quick as you may
wish, but it has to be done. BTW, NRI's agreement is already in as we have
a blanket agreement like Google.

Nat

(2013/07/15 14:56), Paul Madsen wrote:


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Next steps?

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Paul Madsen
Ping Identity

Anthony Nadalin<tonynad@microsoft.com> wrote:



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I believe if you dig you will see that there is potential for IPR from
both Apple and Facebook.

-----Original Message-----
From: openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net [
mailto:openid-specs-bounces at lists.openid.net<openid-specs-bounces@lists.openid.net>]
On Behalf Of n-sakimura
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:20 PM
To: openid-specs at lists.openid.net
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

Could you kindly spell it out?

From what I have been hearing, Facebook was just using fast application
switch, which is nothing more than Self-issued thing that we have, and
iOS's native login support given to facebook, twitter, and Weibo.
Perhaps you are thinking of something else.

Of course, I could be complete wrong. I should probably read
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/ios-6/
and


http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/Social/Reference/Social_Framework/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012233

as well.

Having said that, if Apple's interface is not open, perhaps it is a task
for an industry consortia like OpenID Foundation to go and ask Apple to
open up the API for other IdPs as well. Do not know if they are going to
listen, but still, it might be our duty to try.

Nat

(2013/07/04 7:30), Anthony Nadalin wrote:


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I also have a concern that we might be infringing on the Facebook SSO
(iOS) IPR with this effort. ****




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