FAQ
How is your calling me an ignorant, insensitive, disrespectful person
any different?

Sorry, I will always stand up for myself.

Your complaint regarding the Columbia reference was completely out of
line, and it shows your true nature, and lack of understanding.

Now shut the fuck up.
On Jan 10, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:

Robert, if you wish to continue on this list I suggest you stop.
Either contribute peacefully and positively to this list or you
will be removed. We've all had it with your name calling and
constant derision backed up by a complete lack of substance in
actually doing any of the work, all while clearly benefiting from
what Lucene has to offer. The fact that the community has
tolerated your drivel for so long is a tremendous credit to this
community.

On Jan 10, 2009, at 1:04 PM, robert engels wrote:

Also, ideally my coworker would be both. But given that people are
of differing ability levels, my coworker has a problem. If he is
smarter than me, wasting his time explaining things over and over
to me does little good - unless I take the time to learn from it -
and that is not always possible - different people have different
capacities.

And if the shoe is on the other foot, it wastes my time, unless
the person being talked to has demonstrated a willingness and
ability to learn.

You can't get blood from a turnip.
On Jan 10, 2009, at 11:57 AM, robert engels wrote:

You are completely off-base in regards to my Columbia reference.

It is sorrowful when anyone dies (others would dispute this,
executions of murderers, etc.), but people die all the time - it
doesn't make it a tragedy.

What makes the Columbia truly a tragedy is that they died due to
politics, of no fault of their own. They entrusted their lives
to the engineers, and were deceived.

The same can be said when politics is the overriding factor in
our intelligence agencies. You can also see where that got us,
and the lives that have been lost.

Illustrating the serious problems that can occur when politics
wins over substance is not disrespectful - it is prudent, and you
are a disrespectful ass for even suggesting it was. Either that,
or you do not enough enough command of the English language to
understand I was not equating the two, but using one as an
extreme example of the result of the underlying problem.

That Lucene isn't used is mission critical applications, doesn't
make the offense of politics over substance any less problematic.

You sound like some unrealistic PC idiot - maybe in your next
message you'll some how play the race card in order to "quiet
me". Please.

And personally, I would rather work with a jerk that made my work
life/day easier because his work product removed a burden on me,
or made the company so successful that I earned a better
compensation, than work with I guy that I had to either explain
everything 3 times, or redo his crap all the time. In fact, I
would work hard to see that the latter did not work there very long.
On Jan 10, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:


On Jan 9, 2009, at 8:06 PM, robert engels wrote:


Luckily there are entrepreneurs and other managers/owners that
value quality first, and let feelings get repaired over beers
or not at all.
Sure, but let me ask you, do you like working with those people
who are jerks all the time? AFAICT, Lucene has done a pretty
good job of creating something of quality AND doing it in a
civil, respectful way, otherwise I just don't think we would
still all be here. Why can't we have both? You talk like the
only way it is possible to achieve something is by stepping on
others.

I would suggest everyone involved remove feelings from all of
this and just focus on discussing the pros and cons of the
subject at hand without the need to insult each other anytime
you disagree. In the end, all involved would likely do better
simply by showing their ideas out in code, i.e. _real_ patches.

Your approach is exactly what destroyed the Columbia and their
lives - politics over substance.
Please don't compare what we do in a mission non-critical open
source project for searching files, databases and other minutiae
with the massive tragedy that was Columbia. They are not even
close to being on the same level and it is so completely
disrespectful to those that lost their lives in that tragedy.


-Grant

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