Dear all,

I think the impact of this patent should not be underestimated. If
Hadoop/HBase is only an educational system and not used by anybody for any
business then I agree there is no threat to the community...
but if companies are relaying on it to do business (and some started to
evaluate the use of Hadoop/HBase in commercial systems) then the companies
businesses or products might be threatened. This means, unless something is
done, companies cannot select Hadoop/HBase anymore for implementations
because this is too much of a risk... which is in fact the biggest threat to
hadoop... it was becoming popular and companies started to consider
supporting it (providing development resources...) because this was a
possible platform for their businesses...

In my opinion a healthy attitude to this would be to analyse what was
actually *really* protected and be creative on how hadoop could/should
differentiate. Because if hadoop is just a 1:1 replica of the Google system,
then there is no chance that it will attract more than the academic
community and its nice success story is going to end here... I see enough
intellectual power in the team to be able to take the Google patent and
produce the next generation...

My two cents,
Laurence Hubert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kay Kay" <kaykay.unique@gmail.com>
To: <hbase-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: Google patent over Map Reduce - Hbase reflections

On 1/20/10 3:44 PM, stack wrote:
I've been following the thread. I would tend to side with the general
that has it that its likely a just-in-case move by Google and that the
likelihood of a Google suing Apache is not likely to happen in this

That was my general idea as well.
Are you (or your employer) spooked Kay Kay?
Not at all - but just started this to see what the opinions of the
community might be w.r.t. this.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Kay Kaywrote:

A big thread currently going on at the hadoop common user mailing list -

2c36b701001200817g77f245b1x6ba9d7d2cfd9ec93@mail.gmail.com> .

A good number of you might have already seen that thread, but just
up a thread for discussion to see what the thoughts of the community are
w.r.t. patent and how much (if at all) of the application would be
to that / any refactorings as necessary as seen by the team or thoughts
general to the same.


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