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Devaraj ,
I respectfully disagree, fixing the testcase for IBM JVM will break SUN
JVM, unless we remove the assertion causing the problem. However that might
in return mask other problems . Before any changes we need to understand
the logic behind split process. Is there any documentation? Who owned the
code?


Best Regards
Amir Sanjar

Linux System Management Architect and Lead
IBM Senior Software Engineer
Phone# 512-286-8393
Fax# 512-838-8858





From: Devaraj Das <ddas@hortonworks.com>
To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
Cc: Jeffrey J Heroux/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS, John
Williams/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
Date: 03/23/2012 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Question about Hadoop-8192 and rackToBlocks ordering



Thanks for the explanation, Kumar.

This looks like a testcase problem. We can get into a discussion on whether
we should tweak the split selection process to output more/less splits when
given an input set, but for now we should fix the testcase. Makes sense?
On Mar 23, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Kumar Ravi wrote:

Hi Devaraj,

The issue Amir brings up has to do with the Testcase scenario.

We are trying to determine if this is a Design issue with the
getMoreSplits() method in CombineFileInputFormat class or if the testcase
needs modification.
Like I mentioned in my earlier note, the observation we made while
debugging this issue is that the order by which the racksToBlocks HashMap
gets populated seems to matter. From the comments by Robert Evans and you,
it appears by design that the order should not matter.
Amir's point is - The reason order happens to play a role here is that as
soon as all the blocks are accounted for, getMoreSplits() stops iterating
through the racks, and depending upon which rack(s) each block is
replicated on, and depending upon when each rack is processed in the loop
within getMoreSplits(), one can end up with different split counts, and as
a result fail the testcase in some situations.
Specifically for this testcase, there are 3 racks that are simulated
where each of these 3 racks have a datanode each. Datanode 1 has replicas
of all the blocks of all the 3 files (file1, file2, and file3) while
Datanode 2 has all the blocks of files file2 and file 3 and Datanode 3 has
all the blocks of only file3. As soon as Rack 1 is processed, getMoreSplits
() exits with a split count of the number of times it stays in this loop.
So in this scenario, if Rack1 gets processed last, one will end up with a
split count of 3. If Rack1 gets processed in the beginning, split count
will be 1. The testcase is expecting a return value of 3 but can get a 1 or
2 depending on when it gets processed.
Hope this clarifies things a bit.

Regards,
Kumar


Kumar Ravi
IBM Linux Technology Center
Austin, TX

Tel.: (512)286-8179

Devaraj Das ---03/22/2012 04:41:36 PM---On Mar 22, 2012, at 11:45 AM,
Amir Sanjar wrote:

From:

Devaraj Das <ddas@hortonworks.com>

To:

common-dev@hadoop.apache.org

Cc:

Jeffrey J Heroux/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS, John Williams/Austin/IBM@IBMUS

Date:

03/22/2012 04:41 PM

Subject:

Re: Question about Hadoop-8192 and rackToBlocks ordering


On Mar 22, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Amir Sanjar wrote:

Thanks for the reply Robert,
However I believe the main design issue is:
If there is a rack ( listed in rackToBlock hashMap) that contains all
the
blocks (stored in blockToNode hashMap), regardless of the order, the
split
operation terminates after the rack gets processed, That means
remaining
racks ( listed in rackToBlock hashMap) will not get processed . For
more
details look at file CombineFileInputFormat.JAVA, method getMoreSplits
(),
while loop starting at line 344.
I haven't looked at the code much yet. But trying to understand your
question - what issue are you trying to bring out? Is it overloading one
task with too much input (there is a min/max limit on that one though)?
Best Regards
Amir Sanjar

Linux System Management Architect and Lead
IBM Senior Software Engineer
Phone# 512-286-8393
Fax# 512-838-8858





From: Robert Evans <evans@yahoo-inc.com>
To: "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org"
<common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
Date: 03/22/2012 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Question about Hadoop-8192 and rackToBlocks
ordering


If it really is the ordering of the hash map I would say no it should
not,
and the code should be updated. If ordering matters we need to use a
map
that guarantees a given order, and hash map is not one of them.

--Bobby Evans

On 3/22/12 7:24 AM, "Kumar Ravi" wrote:

Hello,

We have been looking at IBM JDK junit failures on Hadoop-1.0.1
independently and have ran into the same failures as reported in this
JIRA.
I have a question based upon what I have observed below.

We started debugging the problems in the testcase -
org.apache.hadoop.mapred.lib.TestCombineFileInputFormat
The testcase fails because the number of splits returned back from
CombineFileInputFormat.getSplits() is 1 when using IBM JDK whereas the
expected return value is 2.

So far, we have found the reason for this difference in number of
splits is
because the order in which elements in the rackToBlocks hashmap get
created
is in the reverse order that Sun JDK creates.

The question I have at this point is -- Should there be a strict
dependency
in the order in which the rackToBlocks hashmap gets populated, to
determine
the number of splits that get should get created in a hadoop cluster?
Is
this Working as designed?

Regards,
Kumar

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