just adding to what Jeffrey said:

detecting a rooted device is nearly impossible, if the attacker has root
access it is able to hide it from your java application in many
different ways.

There are a couple of advanced instrumentation tools that can be used to
tamper with your application and extract the decrypted data from memory:

xposed framework - http://www.cydiasubstrate.com/
cydia substrate - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401

other instrumentation frameworks exist, but are not as well documented
and widespread.
On 05/31/2013 06:32 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:33 AM, nick lidis wrote:

Recently one of our evaluators reported that their security department
insists that it is possible to attach a debugger on a running application
(which is built on release mode and with the debuggable flag set to false)
and single step the application AND examine the memory in order to retrieve
the in memory cached keys and data.They have not provided info or proof on
how to do this, though.
They are probably extracting classes.dex, running baksmali on it,
instrumenting it, using smali to rebuild classes.dex, and then
building an APK with the debuggable flag.

In the smaili sources, you can even wait for a debugger in

invoke-static {}, Landroid/os/Debug;->waitForDebugger()V.

After the debugger attaches, the your adversary can do all the
customary things, like set breakpoints, examine variables, etc.
I know that anyone can retrieve the source through decompiling, and even
create an Eclipse project with that,but how is it possible to attach the
debugger on the running process (which was build in release mode)?Doesn't
Android prevents that?
For a non-rooted device, they likely cannot debug a running process
which *lacks* the debuggable flag. I've never had success in doing so
with my Evo 4G, and had to use other tricks to debug the code. I've
also seen different behavior on the device and under the simulator.

Other phones with other carriers may be different. And all bets are
off for a rooted device or they are running a mod, which they might be

Android 4.2.2 allows you to secure ADB to stop others from attaching
to processes and extracting data. See Nikolay Elenkov's blog
(I've been able to do everything in Nikolay's list except attach a
debugger to a running process).
Is it possible to modify the installed (and signed apk) in place so that he
enables debugging without even uninstalling the app (which will delete all
its data)? Is there a mechanism on Android to detect tampered/corrupted
I doubt they can modify an installed APK in-situ on a stock device.
For example, I don't know of a way to modify an APK and generate a new
signature while the APK is on the device. But I could be wrong since I
usually re-engineer an APK on a PC to suite my taste and then perform
an `adb install`.
I am talking mainly about a real attack on a stolen device where the
attacker cannot afford to erase the data,and the legitimate user pass-phrase
is not known.
A stolen device is usually vulnerable to password and storage attacks.
If you are prompting the user for their secret, then your threat is
probably word lists and brute forcing.

You might be vulnerable to some session related attacks, depending on
how you are managing sessions.
As of today I was not able to find anything related to such an attack, so If
you are aware of any resources I can consult for familiarizing with the risk
and maybe taking extra measures , it would be greatly appreciated.
Some keywords: android reversing, smali, baksmali, dex2jar, apktool.

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