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  • Before going further in attempting to contribute to the discussions of Pep238 (or case sensitivty) allow be to present my credentials. None, to speak of. Except that I've been through the program. ...
    Arthur_SiegelArthur_Siegel
    Jul 22, 2001 at 4:01 pm
    Aug 7, 2001 at 7:03 am
  • LANGUAGE CHANGE AND CODE BREAKS --with particular reference to Python and recent discussions in comp.lang.python Terry J. Reedy, tjreedy at udel.edu July 10, 2001 Summary: After discussing two ...
    Terry ReedyTerry Reedy
    Jul 11, 2001 at 12:55 am
    Nov 12, 2001 at 4:25 pm
  • I have been following Python for five years now, and I am still just as frustrated with it as I was in 1996. Python still doesn't have good database support, nor has it grown to be useful in the web ...
    Edward B. Wilson IIEdward B. Wilson II
    Jul 2, 2001 at 4:42 am
    Jul 25, 2001 at 4:16 am
  • Hi, I am currently familiar with Perl, C, and Java and am looking at Python. I have some questions about its "strong-typedness" (or lack thereof). To me, the benefit of Java or Python over Perl comes ...
    John GoerzenJohn Goerzen
    Jul 27, 2001 at 1:54 pm
    Aug 14, 2001 at 9:26 pm
  • <disclaimer I'm an inveterate lurker, and I've followed the progress of Python for the last couple of years from the background -- writing programs for my own benefit, but nothing for the use of the ...
    MarggMargg
    Jul 25, 2001 at 2:05 pm
    Aug 22, 2001 at 3:09 am
  • During the debate on changing int/int to give a float result, some proponents appeared to question the usefulness of integer quotients. Opponents of the change gave calculation of array indexes, ...
    Terry ReedyTerry Reedy
    Jul 23, 2001 at 12:55 am
    Aug 2, 2001 at 6:54 am
  • Here's a completely revised version of PEP 238. It contains a long motivational section, a clear specification of what will happen, and a discussion of rejected alternatives, a list of open issues, a ...
    Guido van RossumGuido van Rossum
    Jul 26, 2001 at 10:09 pm
    Aug 7, 2001 at 4:38 pm
  • When I released Python 2.2a1, the type/class unification feature was announced as TENTATIVE. It's been a while now (feels like a year, although I realize it's only been 10 days :), and I would like ...
    Guido van RossumGuido van Rossum
    Jul 28, 2001 at 3:35 pm
    Aug 28, 2001 at 3:26 am
  • I can't believe the quantity of discussion (still) going on over the div thing! And meanwhile, 2.2a1 is out, and there are far more interesting things happening to our little language. Isn't there ...
    Nick PerkinsNick Perkins
    Jul 23, 2001 at 8:55 am
    Aug 10, 2001 at 7:11 am
  • For those interested in the future of the division operator a la PEP 238, I've produced a reasonably complete patch (relative to the CVS trunk, but it probably also works for the descr-branch or the ...
    Guido van RossumGuido van Rossum
    Jul 22, 2001 at 4:36 am
    Aug 20, 2001 at 12:39 pm
  • In the ecosystem of programming languages I think that the argument "Oh you can't change that as it will break all my existing code" should not be used to stagnate the evolution of a language ... and ...
    Ben CBen C
    Jul 28, 2001 at 12:07 pm
    Aug 10, 2001 at 2:38 pm
  • I just compared the speed of Python, Perl, Java, C to do simple numerical calculations. Python is the slowest: took 150 times of time than C, Perl about 60 times, Java is 4.5 times. The source code ...
    Xu, C.S.Xu, C.S.
    Jul 17, 2001 at 8:38 pm
    Aug 3, 2001 at 12:07 am
  • I apologize for my poor English -- I don't know what you mean by "an affection" or "an affect". Consulting a dictionary didn't help, but I'm guessing that you mean something that gets in your way ...
    Guido van RossumGuido van Rossum
    Jul 19, 2001 at 8:30 pm
    Jul 27, 2001 at 8:26 pm
  • I have a simple problem, but one that, without some optimization, might hurt the performance of my project. To sum it up, I have two lists, we'll call them list A and list B, both lists contain only ...
    Jay ParlarJay Parlar
    Jul 16, 2001 at 1:19 pm
    Jul 21, 2001 at 5:47 am
  • Why not make the operator // do what the -old- division operator did, so that the only change that has to be made for backwards compatibility is replace all /'s with //'s? Matt Feinstein ...
    Matt FeinsteinMatt Feinstein
    Jul 23, 2001 at 6:35 pm
    Jul 28, 2001 at 7:03 pm
  • What's the best way to translate this perl snippet into python: ($f1, $f2, $f3, $f4, $f5, $f6) = split ('\s+', $line); The obvious translation would be: [f1, f2, f3, f4, f5, f6] = string.split (line) ...
    Roy SmithRoy Smith
    Jul 14, 2001 at 2:11 am
    Jul 21, 2001 at 8:29 pm
  • it doesn't matter what the leadership says is right. The popular vote is against the stupid float '/' operator. MDFL you are wrong! Give up gracefully now! -- Robin Becker
    Robin BeckerRobin Becker
    Jul 23, 2001 at 10:48 pm
    Aug 2, 2001 at 1:06 pm
  • The following re is (I think) the description of a legitimate IP addess in "quad" format (IPV4). My question is, can it be made even shorter? ipquad = r"^((\d\d?\d?\.){3}(\d\d?\d?))$" -- ...
    Tim DaneliukTim Daneliuk
    Jul 15, 2001 at 7:00 pm
    Jul 27, 2001 at 10:18 am
  • hi, ( In relation to my previous post about user authentication using SOAP, I got another simple question. ) Does anybody have any thoughts about SOAP, especially SOAPpy ( it looks very nice, simple ...
    Thomas WeholtThomas Weholt
    Jul 25, 2001 at 2:21 pm
    Jul 30, 2001 at 2:51 pm
  • Please comment... -- PEP: 0263 (?) Title: Defining Unicode Literal Encodings Version: $Revision: 1.0 $ Author: mal at lemburg.com (Marc-Andr? Lemburg) Status: Draft Type: Standards Track ...
    M.-A. LemburgM.-A. Lemburg
    Jul 13, 2001 at 12:03 pm
    Jul 18, 2001 at 3:57 am
  • After having been through two rounds of comments with the "Unicode Literal Encoding" pre-PEP, it has turned out that people actually prefer to go for the full Monty meaning that the PEP should handle ...
    M.-A. LemburgM.-A. Lemburg
    Jul 17, 2001 at 10:08 am
    Aug 12, 2001 at 10:45 pm
  • *** Python Is Really "Middleware" *** Tim Daneliuk Copyright (c) 2001, TundraWare Inc. Feel free to pass it around however you like, so long as you don't change, delete, or add anything, and preserve ...
    Tim DaneliukTim Daneliuk
    Jul 31, 2001 at 9:50 am
    Aug 7, 2001 at 3:58 am
  • I am wondering if there is a straight forward license which I can use for python code I plan to distribute. Is there a standard header, or possibly a link that can be placed in a header which ...
    Neil MacnealeNeil Macneale
    Jul 7, 2001 at 8:46 pm
    Jul 13, 2001 at 10:53 pm
  • Here's a new revision of PEP 238. I've incorporated clarifications of issues that were brought up during the discussion of rev 1.10 -- from typos via rewording of ambiguous phrasing to the addition ...
    Guido van RossumGuido van Rossum
    Jul 27, 2001 at 7:48 pm
    Aug 6, 2001 at 5:00 am
  • I have read the following book which gives C/C++ heavy bashing http://www.elj.com/cppcv3/ Conclusion is to use Java or even better choice is Eiffel Should I stop using Python and jump on Eiffel wagon ...
    Tomasz StochmalTomasz Stochmal
    Jul 3, 2001 at 9:00 am
    Jul 22, 2001 at 12:45 pm
  • Once these numeric changes are all implemented, if I define a complex constant with either integer real or imaginary parts, e.g. c = 1+2.1j d = 1.2+5j e = 4+7j should I get an integer back (exact) or ...
    Skip MontanaroSkip Montanaro
    Jul 27, 2001 at 3:54 pm
    Aug 8, 2001 at 2:43 pm
  • For amusement, run this little script which demonstrates a near ultimate in the lack of type safety in the language. (Perhaps there is a bit of type safety in that you can't do this: 4 + "one") But ...
    Dennis RoarkDennis Roark
    Jul 13, 2001 at 7:32 am
    Jul 16, 2001 at 6:32 pm
  • To the Snake's Den: This is a continuation to an earlier post "Is Python Dead". Perhaps my previous title was a bit loud and over the top. In response to being accused a Troll, I want to say that ...
    Edward WilsonEdward Wilson
    Jul 6, 2001 at 4:20 pm
    Jul 13, 2001 at 10:53 am
  • Can you do this: answer = [] for x in my_list: if not is_good(x): break answer.append(process(x)) with a list comprehension somehow? I'm starting to dislike explicit for loops just for the purposes ...
    Kevin LackerKevin Lacker
    Jul 26, 2001 at 2:44 pm
    Aug 9, 2001 at 9:35 am
  • python is way slower than c. that's no big deal. but: 1. is python slower than perl 2. is python slower than ruby 3. is python slower than lua (some kind of scripting language) i want to know if ...
    Tyler spiveyTyler spivey
    Jul 10, 2001 at 4:51 pm
    Jul 13, 2001 at 9:01 pm
  • Python Bug Report #437395 states: The rfc822 and smtplib modules need to be checked for conformance with RFC 2822, which obsoletes RFC 822. (Added this to the tracker so we don't lose track of this.) ...
    Phil huntPhil hunt
    Jul 8, 2001 at 7:20 pm
    Aug 9, 2001 at 4:12 pm
  • Hi all, Having spent (wasted?) far too much time reading everyone's opinion of the new division proposal, I have come to the following conclusions: 1) Everyone seems to agree that having both kinds ...
    Chris BarkerChris Barker
    Jul 23, 2001 at 11:50 pm
    Jul 27, 2001 at 11:15 pm
  • Hi, I'm very new to combinatorics (in fact my interest has only arisen from a problem in a magazine) and have been scouring the net for help with said problem. The difficuly is phrasing the question ...
    Donovan HideDonovan Hide
    Jul 13, 2001 at 2:36 pm
    Jul 24, 2001 at 5:24 pm
  • I have been quite happy working with Python, and have become quite evangelical in my support for this language and its excellent user community. One area in which I believe Python to be very lacking ...
    RobinRobin
    Jul 2, 2001 at 8:25 pm
    Jul 12, 2001 at 5:53 pm
  • Is there a class that simplifies high-level argument decoding under the control of a template? Such a class would take a string as a template and the arg list and return another list populated with ...
    Dale Strickland-ClarkDale Strickland-Clark
    Jul 31, 2001 at 3:20 pm
    Aug 7, 2001 at 5:04 am
  • This is a small draft of mine, still unnumbered. It deals with some of the issues associated with PEP 2, namely: - the definition of the "Standard Library"; - some considerations about OS ...
    Carlos RibeiroCarlos Ribeiro
    Jul 2, 2001 at 12:45 am
    Jul 4, 2001 at 9:54 pm
  • Hi again, folks, So, I dug deeper and found out that two threads were apparently struggling to get xml.sax.__init__ module to execute a very suspect __import__("xml.sax.expatreader"). Further digging ...
    Victor BazarovVictor Bazarov
    Jul 26, 2001 at 12:45 am
    Jul 30, 2001 at 5:05 pm
  • All this heated discussion over floats has led me to wonder if we need to lighten up a little bit and celebrate the fact that were close to 100,000 (94,100 as of this moment) messages on this ...
    Gods1childGods1child
    Jul 29, 2001 at 6:52 pm
    Aug 13, 2001 at 4:35 pm
  • OK, I've become fairly comfortable with defining my own classes and subclassing other classes and so on... Now I'm wanting to create some of my own exceptions. I've searched comp.lang.python at ...
    Sheila KingSheila King
    Jul 22, 2001 at 3:20 am
    Jul 24, 2001 at 4:37 pm
  • Ok well I dont quite grasp the Lambda concept heres an example. def mult(x,y): return x * y f = reduce(lambda x,y: x*y,n) print f *NOTE The varible N is defined in the code before this excerpt. ...
    EricIDLEEricIDLE
    Jul 12, 2001 at 3:27 am
    Jul 14, 2001 at 11:10 pm
  • Hello, Latest Guido's decisions about xrange, / vs. div, etc, gave an interesting idea which, probably, will find some followers. The idea is to create Eternal programming style (or language - I am ...
    Roman SuziRoman Suzi
    Jul 7, 2001 at 12:42 pm
    Jul 12, 2001 at 3:04 pm
  • Hi folks, I've been working on a text for PEP 2. Currently, PEP 2 is a 3 line text written by Eric Raymond: http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0002.html Tim Peters suggested we fleshed it out, so ...
    Martijn FaassenMartijn Faassen
    Jul 4, 2001 at 7:24 pm
    Jul 10, 2001 at 3:56 pm
  • After enduring the PEP 238 threads for far too long, as well as other threads, I've come to the conclusion that Python is simply too unstable for real use. Now, I've got a slightly different ...
    John RothJohn Roth
    Jul 25, 2001 at 6:51 pm
    Aug 15, 2001 at 2:16 pm
  • Does it bother anyone that a *= 3 + 4 returns a different value from a = a * 3 + 4 ?? -- Emile van Sebille emile at fenx.com ---------
    Emile van SebilleEmile van Sebille
    Jul 11, 2001 at 12:12 pm
    Aug 15, 2001 at 6:26 am
  • I am reading in a phone number field and would like to throw away everything except the digits. Being an old C programmer, I know how I would do this. Even with my limited knowledge of Python, I know ...
    Lindstrom Greg - glindsLindstrom Greg - glinds
    Jul 5, 2001 at 4:15 pm
    Jul 6, 2001 at 5:33 pm
  • I've been using Python off and on for over two years. I've been teaching my wife Python, and she recently asked me how/where she should use import. I realized that I have no idea what the best idioms ...
    Tom BryanTom Bryan
    Jul 28, 2001 at 4:13 pm
    Aug 6, 2001 at 4:01 am
  • Here's a scenario: I--one of those professional programmers--write a Python script for someone who runs a business, or a non-profit, or an agency, to run on their CGI webserver. This client knows not ...
    Lulu of the Lotus-EatersLulu of the Lotus-Eaters
    Jul 18, 2001 at 12:09 am
    Jul 22, 2001 at 1:43 am
  • I've always wondered why the interpreter was so, uhm...difficult, even compared to wish (tcl). I like to mess around and improvise in the interpreter, but find that it is so feature-starved that it ...
    Kevin parksKevin parks
    Jul 19, 2001 at 10:24 am
    Jul 27, 2001 at 10:23 pm
  • Hello all! I'm trying to write a script that will open a file, delete the first line, and then save the file with the same name. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks! Why am I ...
    Chris McMillanChris McMillan
    Jul 9, 2001 at 9:01 pm
    Jul 12, 2001 at 11:25 pm
  • "Roman Suzi" <rnd at onego.ru wrote in message news:mailman.994100826.19440.python-list at python.org... Internet Information Server (IIS) serves webpages, including Active Server Pages (ASP), but ...
    Alex MartelliAlex Martelli
    Jul 2, 2001 at 9:20 pm
    Jul 6, 2001 at 7:59 pm
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