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  • <... Even if the RPM was made by someone who didn't have a clue? Wouldn't it be better to have a standard way to convert a Python package into an RPM, that way any packaging problems will be seen by ...
    Bruce SassBruce Sass
    Feb 27, 2001 at 9:49 am
    Mar 2, 2001 at 4:54 pm
  • I just had an interesting conversation today with my brother who is learning programming from scratch. He's learning Smalltalk, and was watching me debug a program I'm working on and we visited the ...
    Thomas GagneThomas Gagne
    Feb 21, 2001 at 3:38 am
    Mar 29, 2001 at 5:43 am
  • I am learning Python as a first language, and I have been wondering what is a good language to learn after Python? I'm thinking of either going into C or Java but I'm not sure which one because I've ...
    Jim EatonJim Eaton
    Feb 18, 2001 at 8:00 am
    Feb 22, 2001 at 2:43 am
  • We (PythonLabs) have received a lot of flak over our plan to introduce nested scopes despite the fact that it appears to break a small but significant amount of working code. We discussed this at an ...
    Guido van RossumGuido van Rossum
    Feb 23, 2001 at 2:59 am
    Mar 14, 2001 at 5:14 am
  • Is it really true that J Hylton's nested scopes will cause code like def bingo(): from string import * .... to be declared bad? I'm already against nested scopes, but requiring this to be wrong seems ...
    Robin BeckerRobin Becker
    Feb 2, 2001 at 10:33 am
    Feb 9, 2001 at 5:55 pm
  • It is with some trepidation that I post: This is a summary of traffic on the python-dev mailing list between Feb 1 and Feb 14 2001. It is intended to inform the wider Python community of ongoing ...
    Michael HudsonMichael Hudson
    Feb 15, 2001 at 4:56 pm
    Mar 1, 2001 at 3:53 am
  • While playing a bit with python 2.0, I found that I can assign some value to None EG: None= 2 which I found to be very pernicious because then the following, for example, won't work any more: Bug or ...
    Gregoire WelraedsGregoire Welraeds
    Feb 8, 2001 at 11:54 am
    Feb 19, 2001 at 2:56 am
  • Python-dev summary, January 16-31, 2001 ======================================= To comment on material in this python-dev summary, you can simply post to comp.lang.python / <python-list at python.org ...
    Andrew KuchlingAndrew Kuchling
    Feb 8, 2001 at 3:21 pm
    Feb 16, 2001 at 4:27 pm
  • Smalltalk-style cascade operations would be *very* cool win = GtkWindow(); set_title("Hello World"); set_name ("window"); set_usize (400,200) versus win = GtkWindow() win.set_title("Hello World") ...
    Jay O'ConnorJay O'Connor
    Feb 4, 2001 at 2:19 pm
    Feb 7, 2001 at 3:43 pm
  • I just scanned the responses on comp.lang.python to Andrew's announcement that he would stopping write the python-dev summaries. The respondents indicated that they found it hard to keep track of ...
    Jeremy HyltonJeremy Hylton
    Feb 9, 2001 at 5:45 pm
    Feb 16, 2001 at 10:38 am
  • I'm planning to write a program for myself which, if I'm happy with the way it turns out, I will likely distribute as shareware. I'm looking for as many of the following traits as possible: 1:a ...
    Feb 10, 2001 at 10:52 pm
    Feb 21, 2001 at 4:29 pm
  • with the back and forth going on about the "in" operator and dictionaries, i was thinking it would be nice for the "in" operator to also check for the presence of substrings in a string. for ...
    Pete ShinnersPete Shinners
    Feb 1, 2001 at 8:02 am
    Feb 7, 2001 at 2:40 pm
  • [Please watch the replies on this message as it's heavily cross-posted] I'm doing some comparisons on programming language features and I'd be very interested to know how you would handle the ...
    Dave CrossDave Cross
    Feb 18, 2001 at 1:16 pm
    Mar 2, 2001 at 9:39 pm
  • These commands will turn a string into a list: myword="dog" mywordlist=list(myword) result = ["d","o","g"] is there a command/function that can take the list ["d","o","g"] and make it a string "dog"? ...
    Glen mettlerGlen mettler
    Feb 27, 2001 at 2:42 am
    Feb 28, 2001 at 9:13 pm
  • Pythonographers: Ogle this awesome snip of C++: #define TRACE_(x) cout << #x ": " << x << endl When you use that like this: TRACE_(y + z); TRACE_(strAnimals); TRACE_(__LINE__); the program emits ...
    Feb 4, 2001 at 7:59 pm
    Feb 8, 2001 at 3:34 pm
  • Anybody have any thoughts on allowing the characters '!' and '?' in identifiers? It's possible I'm missing something, but I think the only ambiguity this introduces is in the case of something like ...
    Joshua MarshallJoshua Marshall
    Feb 20, 2001 at 1:25 am
    Mar 6, 2001 at 8:04 pm
  • Is there anyway to make the import statement NOT case sensitive? sometimes directory names are in mixed case or different case from the import statment. Also what is the purpose of even having it ...
    Feb 21, 2001 at 10:08 pm
    Feb 28, 2001 at 5:13 pm
  • why don't do...while loops exist in python? Is there are better way to get to that functionality? e.g. file = open(...) do: line = file.readline() while line != "" Do I have to write a PEP or read ...
    Dan ParisienDan Parisien
    Feb 6, 2001 at 5:26 am
    Feb 8, 2001 at 12:42 pm
  • There has been renewed discussion of backwards compatibility issues introduced by nested scopes. Following some discussion on python-dev, I have updated the discussion of these issues in the PEP. Of ...
    Jeremy HyltonJeremy Hylton
    Feb 21, 2001 at 7:09 pm
    Feb 23, 2001 at 5:14 pm
  • I don't know if this piece of source is small enough, but it is probably the smallest I can create with the same symptoms : every time a spawn is made, and the spawned program stops, some 4k to 12k ...
    Jurgen DefurneJurgen Defurne
    Feb 15, 2001 at 12:29 pm
    Feb 21, 2001 at 2:27 pm
  • How do I retrieve the output of a shell command in python? eg output = os.system('ls -l') - but returns the output of "ls -l" or output = `ls -l` - like perl Thanks in advance Joe
    Joe ConnellanJoe Connellan
    Feb 26, 2001 at 6:49 am
    Feb 28, 2001 at 10:26 am
  • It seems to me that the bit of code below should report a type inconsistency. X-Mozilla-Status: 0009 Sep 20 2000, 12:29:43) [MSC 32 bit (Intel)] on win32. Portions Copyright 1994-2000 Mark Hammond ...
    Colin J. WilliamsColin J. Williams
    Feb 18, 2001 at 1:45 am
    Feb 25, 2001 at 5:15 am
  • I have some problems with urllib. Any URL works just fine except http://www.redherring.com/ which returns nothing, no headers, no nothing. (Red Herring works fine from any browser). I have tried to ...
    Feb 8, 2001 at 7:17 am
    Feb 12, 2001 at 3:00 pm
  • Apologies if this gets overly long - I'm feeling extremely frustrated in my efforts to get to grips with Tkinter and want to get a good grip on what I understand and what I am getting wrong. (1) If I ...
    Martyn QuickMartyn Quick
    Feb 7, 2001 at 1:00 pm
    Feb 11, 2001 at 12:01 am
  • Hello. The company I work for has a program written in Python, and wants to ship it to customers in such a way that even if the customers are Python gurus they will not be able to decompile Python ...
    Leonid GluhovskyLeonid Gluhovsky
    Feb 18, 2001 at 4:10 pm
    Feb 20, 2001 at 3:52 am
  • # Just A Quick Observation Is it just me or is there a lot of animosity towards Python as a serious programming language ... it seems to be an old school attitude that if you do not have to struggle ...
    Feb 23, 2001 at 12:01 pm
    Mar 6, 2001 at 1:42 am
  • Subject says it all, really. Does anyone know when Python 2 is coming out for Debian? All I can find on my local mirror is 1.5. -- +- David Given ---------------McQ-+ +- http://wired.st-and.ac.uk/~dg ...
    David GivenDavid Given
    Feb 27, 2001 at 5:39 pm
    Feb 28, 2001 at 6:02 pm
  • Hi all, I checked Parnassus, but couldn't find anything, so I'll ask here. Has anyone done anything with IP math (e.g., + 1 = -- Stand Fast, tjg. Timothy Grant tjg at ...
    Timothy GrantTimothy Grant
    Feb 26, 2001 at 8:59 pm
    Feb 27, 2001 at 7:35 pm
  • Hi Python-Fans ! A friend told me about the programming language "Ruby". It's seems that it's a fine one. Will the high number of features shrink the Python-community to a very low amount ? Mfg ...
    Florian W.Florian W.
    Feb 21, 2001 at 8:00 pm
    Feb 23, 2001 at 8:28 pm
  • I'm trying to create a loop that reads through a simple file with strings on each line. f=open('/tmp/xferlog', 'r') while f.readline(): line = f.readline() print line Problem 1: Although I know there ...
    Chris Richard AdamsChris Richard Adams
    Feb 13, 2001 at 6:29 pm
    Feb 22, 2001 at 2:59 pm
  • Following suggestion by Jeff Petkau (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2001-February/029944.html), here is a different proposal for iterators. Like the colon-syntax proposal, it achieves ...
    Huaiyu ZhuHuaiyu Zhu
    Feb 21, 2001 at 11:32 am
    Feb 22, 2001 at 5:41 am
  • Here is how I would handle bound methods. Similar to Python but a bit different. A disadvantage of current function-to-bound-method conversion is that it checks the type of the object and does an ...
    Marcin 'Qrczak' KowalczykMarcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
    Feb 19, 2001 at 6:29 pm
    Feb 25, 2001 at 8:34 pm
  • This is in reaction to the new iterator proposal <http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0234.html : My own reaction is "great!" one misgiving: it does not address a very common need: to iterate over ...
    Russell E. OwenRussell E. Owen
    Feb 16, 2001 at 5:41 pm
    Feb 20, 2001 at 12:44 pm
  • http://vtcl.sourceforge.net/snapshot.html This is a good GUI builder for Tcl...and would be nice to have a Python version. - Bob
    Robert L HicksRobert L Hicks
    Feb 14, 2001 at 7:28 pm
    Feb 15, 2001 at 6:23 pm
  • I have a network of Linux and Windows machines. On a Windows box, I have several python scripts which I'd also like to run on the Linux machines. I've smbmounted the Windows share to see the scripts, ...
    Mike CarifioMike Carifio
    Feb 10, 2001 at 4:59 pm
    Feb 15, 2001 at 12:19 am
  • Hi, I am generating a huge, huge list of data (cant think of a decent way to reduce the required storage size and have it in a usable form). Everytime i try to keep this list for future derivations I ...
    Rich SomerfieldRich Somerfield
    Feb 23, 2001 at 4:55 pm
    Mar 5, 2001 at 9:59 am
  • There is a free multi-platform 3D package called Blender ( www.blender.nl ) that has builtin python capabilities to help in automating animation and modeling tasks. The Blender Python module is ...
    Feb 28, 2001 at 3:27 am
    Mar 4, 2001 at 1:05 am
  • The text of this PEP can also be found online, at: http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0236.html PEP: 236 Title: Back to the __future__ Version: $Revision: 1.2 $ Author: Tim Peters <tim at ...
    Tim PetersTim Peters
    Feb 27, 2001 at 1:18 am
    Feb 28, 2001 at 5:21 pm
  • Someone please tell me why I cannot find a CASE statement in the Python documentation index... There is a CASE isn't there???
    Chris Richard AdamsChris Richard Adams
    Feb 20, 2001 at 1:18 pm
    Feb 28, 2001 at 1:33 am
  • Hello All -- So I've got a number between 40 and 130 that I want to round up to the nearest 10. That is: 40 -- 40 41 -- 50 42 -- 50 ... 49 -- 50 50 -- 50 51 -- 60 etc. The way I'm doing it now is: ...
    Jacob Kaplan-MossJacob Kaplan-Moss
    Feb 21, 2001 at 6:28 am
    Feb 24, 2001 at 12:05 am
  • Untitled Document ARGH! I wll never understand why spam still exists, the internet reaching the level of development and maturity is has. I can't imagine that there's ANYONE left anymore dumb and/or ...
    Steve D. PerkinsSteve D. Perkins
    Feb 17, 2001 at 10:46 pm
    Feb 21, 2001 at 11:01 pm
  • Anyone have a python XML Schema parser/validator? I thought I saw comments that it wasn't being done yet as part of xml-sig. Of course, we don't actually need an XML Schema validator inpython (java ...
    Harry GeorgeHarry George
    Feb 14, 2001 at 3:21 am
    Feb 21, 2001 at 9:18 am
  • For what seems like half an eternity, I've been working on a ZODB programming guide, written for Python programmers who want to use the ZODB to store data. The document is placed under the GNU Free ...
    Andrew KuchlingAndrew Kuchling
    Feb 5, 2001 at 3:46 pm
    Feb 9, 2001 at 8:59 am
  • Is there a way to check whether an object is a sequence? I'm not interested in the specific type, just that it qualifies as a sequence, so it could be built-in or user defined sequence. The language ...
    Burkhard KlossBurkhard Kloss
    Feb 14, 2001 at 11:12 am
    Feb 26, 2001 at 4:24 pm
  • In python 1.5.2 (and possible to any future python) is possible to set a global variable shared by all modules simply by doing: setattr(__builtins__, 'GlobalVariable', GlobalVariable) without the ...
    Vassilis VirvilisVassilis Virvilis
    Feb 24, 2001 at 5:54 am
    Feb 26, 2001 at 8:50 am
  • Architecture: ASP page using <%@ LANGUAGE = Python% , calling Python class which calls ADO to pass SQL command via ODBC driver to MsSQL db. (Everything running on Win2K.) MsSQL configured to ...
    Bill SeitzBill Seitz
    Feb 2, 2001 at 8:26 pm
    Feb 9, 2001 at 9:52 pm
  • Pour convaincre des clients de passer ? PYTHON, les arguments techniques seuls ne suffisent pas, il faut ?galement donner des exemples de projets ou de soci?t?s utilisant cette technologie. Il est ...
    Jean-Louis BERLIETJean-Louis BERLIET
    Feb 1, 2001 at 1:15 pm
    Feb 5, 2001 at 5:08 pm
  • Seen this morning on the PHO mailing list. Anyone know anything about this port? ------------------------- Peer-to-Peer Everywhere? By: Mike Darrah 2/23/01 Published exclusively on PHO mailing list. ...
    Brett g PorterBrett g Porter
    Feb 23, 2001 at 6:35 pm
    Feb 27, 2001 at 9:38 pm
  • is there anyway to lock a file so that two different programs cannot access the file at the same time. ie, my python module is editting file foo, and at the same time user x (or program x) tries to ...
    Joseph Holland KingJoseph Holland King
    Feb 20, 2001 at 11:55 pm
    Feb 23, 2001 at 4:47 am
  • hi, i am just beginning to use python. i have: li1 = ['a', 'b', 'c'] li2 = ['x', 'y', 'z'] i want: li3 = ['ax', 'by', 'cz'] how do i do it? thanks -gnana
    Gnanasekaran ThoppaeGnanasekaran Thoppae
    Feb 21, 2001 at 5:05 pm
    Feb 22, 2001 at 8:32 pm
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