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  • Hi All, There was an offline exchange, which generated a lot of good ideas, but that failed to find agreement for one final proposal among the participants. I had hoped that the results would have ...
    Lukas Kahwe SmithLukas Kahwe Smith
    Oct 10, 2008 at 5:04 am
    Oct 16, 2008 at 9:46 am
  • Hi all, Let me make this brief: there will be lots of complaining about the namespace separator. Stop. Now. It serves no possible useful purpose. If you want to discuss why this was chosen or suggest ...
    Greg BeaverGreg Beaver
    Oct 26, 2008 at 3:37 pm
    Nov 8, 2008 at 11:45 pm
  • Hi, http://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaceissues Read it and discuss. Let's be clear people: the technical problems in namespaces are limited and solvable. The problems in the political environment ...
    Greg BeaverGreg Beaver
    Oct 15, 2008 at 8:35 pm
    Oct 19, 2008 at 6:10 pm
  • Hi! I notice that 5.3 differs from 5.2 in how array_key_exists treats objects. In 5.2, if the second parameter (array) is allowed to be object and HASH_OF is applied to it. However, in 5.3 it would ...
    Stanislav MalyshevStanislav Malyshev
    Oct 23, 2008 at 8:15 pm
    Nov 23, 2008 at 11:27 am
  • Hi all, Thx to the initiative of Scott and Steph we had an IRC discussion with several code developers. The result is that we have decided to go with backslash as new separator for namespaces. The ...
    Lukas Kahwe SmithLukas Kahwe Smith
    Oct 25, 2008 at 6:08 pm
    Oct 27, 2008 at 7:29 pm
  • Hi, This bug #44872 puzzles me, I experienced it today running testcases with PHPUnit on command line, thus invoking PHP CLI. I'm working on a Ubuntu Hardy 8.0.4 server, using PHP 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 ...
    Krister KarlströmKrister Karlström
    Oct 10, 2008 at 12:03 pm
    Oct 15, 2008 at 9:36 am
  • Hi, So some core developers as well as lurking end users have noted that the traffic on this list prevents them from being able to follow this list. This is obviously a huge problem since this ...
    Lukas Kahwe SmithLukas Kahwe Smith
    Oct 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm
    Nov 3, 2008 at 7:52 pm
  • I was hoping to have at least 30 respondees at this stage, but actually have 29 (and that includes Hannes' abstention). However, to keep y'all up to date, here's where we're up to with Greg's ...
    Steph FoxSteph Fox
    Oct 16, 2008 at 7:31 pm
    Oct 18, 2008 at 9:08 pm
  • Hello, the last time the topic traits has been discussed is already a while ago. At this time, there have been two very different opinions out there, about how exactly this horizontal reuse should ...
    Stefan MarrStefan Marr
    Oct 13, 2008 at 7:13 pm
    Oct 15, 2009 at 3:22 pm
  • Hi internals, Does anyone knows why json_encode ignores protected/public class members ? I've searching about it on documentation an mailing lists but found nothing but workarounds. Until now I'm ...
    Jarismar Chaves da SilvaJarismar Chaves da Silva
    Oct 9, 2008 at 12:53 pm
    Oct 16, 2008 at 6:09 pm
  • I've been wondering, is such a thing even possible? Is there a good way to implement an object destruct order? Here are my thoughts: In the class definition, specify what "level" of destruction the ...
    Ryan PanningRyan Panning
    Oct 22, 2008 at 1:03 am
    Oct 24, 2008 at 6:39 pm
  • The first release candidate of 5.2.7 was just released for testing and can be downloaded here: http://downloads.php.net/ilia/php-5.2.7RC1.tar.bz2 (md5sum: be7544212fe4a3ede775a3793ecd3967) The ...
    Ilia AlshanetskyIlia Alshanetsky
    Oct 10, 2008 at 12:31 am
    Oct 22, 2008 at 8:41 pm
  • What is the correct procedure to create a new driver, or rather clone the existing php_interbase so that we can build a proper Firebird version that actually uses the fbclient.dll rather than sharing ...
    Lester CaineLester Caine
    Oct 7, 2008 at 6:18 pm
    Oct 14, 2008 at 5:50 am
  • Hi all It looks like [DOC] has failed miserably, it is of no use if only few people use it for few commits. Adding to the fact there is almost no activity in the documentations we really need to find ...
    Hannes MagnussonHannes Magnusson
    Oct 1, 2008 at 1:39 pm
    Oct 3, 2008 at 5:02 pm
  • (This is a repost of a proposal originally sent to the list 6 months ago. It didn't gather much attention back then, but I talked to several people off-list who found it useful and suggested that I ...
    Christian SchmidtChristian Schmidt
    Oct 19, 2008 at 9:42 pm
    Nov 29, 2008 at 3:00 pm
  • Hi again, I was asked to explain why I hadn't included ClassName- Method(); in the list of ideas that solve the ambiguity problem. I added a brief section to the RFC that does so: ...
    Gregory BeaverGregory Beaver
    Oct 16, 2008 at 3:21 am
    Oct 16, 2008 at 8:50 pm
  • Hi All, My first patch so be gentle :-). Per the documentation for the fputcsv() function, it adds a newline to the end of the csv string it returns. However, it is hardcoded to be '\n' ( default for ...
    John MerticJohn Mertic
    Oct 22, 2008 at 5:03 pm
    Jul 7, 2009 at 9:10 pm
  • Hello, I have a script which throw a segfault, in cli with PHP 5.2.6 (I just recompiled it from source). I track the error with valgrind, and obtain this as a result : ==17069== Invalid read of size ...
    Olivier BonvaletOlivier Bonvalet
    Oct 10, 2008 at 5:15 pm
    Jan 11, 2009 at 1:11 am
  • Hi, I think zend_hash_compare could get a healthy speed boost in some cases if first it would check whether the two variables passed to it are actually the same (because of "reference counting"). ...
    Karoly NegyesiKaroly Negyesi
    Oct 19, 2008 at 7:11 pm
    Nov 11, 2008 at 7:14 am
  • Speaking of "QA people", how about crediting those who are actually working on QA and removing the names who haven't been around for years (I don't even recognized most of those names)? -Hannes
    Hannes MagnussonHannes Magnusson
    Oct 28, 2008 at 7:30 pm
    Nov 14, 2010 at 3:37 pm
  • Gday internals Today I felt over a topic while looking at some documentation bugs, and as the title says its the Resource constants. From what I could understand by asking Felipe and reading over ...
    Kalle Sommer NielsenKalle Sommer Nielsen
    Oct 26, 2008 at 1:33 pm
    Nov 4, 2008 at 11:40 pm
  • Hmmh.. Does this mean that 5.2 is dead and all the unreleased 5.2 NEWS entries should be moved to 5_3? -Hannes
    Hannes MagnussonHannes Magnusson
    Oct 1, 2008 at 9:01 pm
    Oct 6, 2008 at 9:14 pm
  • Hi youngs, What about moving mSQL to pecl? :) Well, That isn't a task for me, ... just for remember! -- Regards, Felipe Pena
    Felipe PenaFelipe Pena
    Oct 24, 2008 at 12:15 pm
    Nov 4, 2008 at 10:04 pm
  • Hi, Now that we have a separator, it's time to clarify what happened to the resolution order for functions and classes, which if I read Greg's messages, is still not clearly defined. 1) I think we've ...
    Stan Vassilev | FMStan Vassilev | FM
    Oct 27, 2008 at 11:37 am
    Oct 28, 2008 at 7:27 pm
  • Please can those people who didn't already express a clear and relevant opinion, express it now? We don't have long to play with this if there's to be namespace support in 5.3. At present it looks ...
    Steph FoxSteph Fox
    Oct 16, 2008 at 2:42 pm
    Oct 20, 2008 at 6:26 am
  • Hi, I'm grappling with a design flaw I just uncovered in stream filters, and need some advice on how best to fix it. The problem exists since the introduction of stream filters, and has 3 parts. 2 of ...
    Gregory BeaverGregory Beaver
    Oct 11, 2008 at 5:43 pm
    Nov 17, 2008 at 10:35 am
  • Can anybody suggest a reason why this has never moved from main to php_5_2 or php_5_3? It was added to MAIN in dec '06 Steve The information contained in this email is intended for the personal and ...
    Steve HanselmanSteve Hanselman
    Oct 20, 2008 at 8:43 pm
    Nov 2, 2008 at 10:41 pm
  • Just a quick reminder for all of the developers, RC3 (the final RC) will be tagged tomorrow afternoon (EST) time, please try to get whatever patches (bug fixes only, please) you still want into it. ...
    Ilia AlshanetskyIlia Alshanetsky
    Oct 29, 2008 at 12:48 pm
    Oct 30, 2008 at 9:55 am
  • Hello, What is the chance of support for constants in double-quoted strings in PHP 5.3 or PHP 6.0? This is something I have wanted for some time now. Use cases: Writing an SQL query that makes use of ...
    JoshJosh
    Oct 29, 2008 at 4:17 am
    Oct 29, 2008 at 2:47 pm
  • I have cried so many times. Does anyone have any idea how we can help docwriters find commits that need to be documented? Personally I would like _all_ changes in functionality, new stuff and removed ...
    Hannes MagnussonHannes Magnusson
    Oct 23, 2008 at 6:54 am
    Oct 26, 2008 at 8:55 am
  • *The Problem (as defined by Greg):* foo.php: <?php namespace one::step; function two(){} namespace one; class step { static function two(){} } ? main.php: <?php include 'foo.php'; // is this class ...
    Nathan RixhamNathan Rixham
    Oct 17, 2008 at 10:53 am
    Oct 18, 2008 at 4:32 pm
  • Hi, Scott said he could apply the patch for you. And he is sitting right in front of me .. regards, Lukas Lukas Kahwe Smith [email protected]
    Lukas Kahwe SmithLukas Kahwe Smith
    Oct 30, 2008 at 11:47 am
    Oct 31, 2008 at 2:08 am
  • I'm just a "mere user" but here's how I would vote: Issue 1: Choice #4 (with an alternate choice for #3). My eye sight is bad enough without having to distinguish between :: and :::. Issue 2: Vote ...
    Timothy BoronczykTimothy Boronczyk
    Oct 17, 2008 at 2:30 am
    Oct 17, 2008 at 3:55 pm
  • Hello internals I've been looking at the function define_syslog_variables(), and I'm unsure if its intentional to keep this old functionality in PHP, seeing as define_syslog_variables defines a ...
    Kalle Sommer NielsenKalle Sommer Nielsen
    Oct 14, 2008 at 2:04 am
    Oct 15, 2008 at 11:20 pm
  • Hi list, to me it does not seem to make sense to use tabs or linefeeds (or whatever other strange escaped characters) in namespace'd names. So I'd suggest generating a fatal error when somebody uses ...
    Stefan PriebschStefan Priebsch
    Oct 27, 2008 at 9:02 am
    Oct 28, 2008 at 9:57 pm
  • Hi all, Could anyone tell me the license of the binaries and source code placed here? http://pecl2.php.net/downloads/php-windows-builds/ I am developing a commercial package software using PHP and I ...
    田中 裕一田中 裕一
    Oct 10, 2008 at 2:25 am
    Oct 10, 2008 at 2:40 pm
  • Hi, Apparently, nobody reads internals anymore. :-( I made my initial comment on the bug report over a year ago. Since then I've dug quite a bit into floating point arithmetics and the actual ...
    Christian SeilerChristian Seiler
    Oct 30, 2008 at 9:55 am
    Oct 30, 2008 at 3:44 pm
  • The second release candidate of 5.2.7 was just released for testing and can be downloaded here: http://downloads.php.net/ilia/php-5.2.7RC2.tar.bz2 (md5sum: 722b69b8a51050aa25c1e6184e4e8d0e) The ...
    Ilia AlshanetskyIlia Alshanetsky
    Oct 23, 2008 at 10:55 pm
    Oct 24, 2008 at 1:14 pm
  • Hi. Ref http://snaps.php.net/ I see that latest PHP 6.0 Win32 build are from "Jul 28, 2008 06:30 UTC" Why is it not built more often? Who make these PHP 6.0 Win32 builds? Email address please, or can ...
    Tore B. KrudtaaTore B. Krudtaa
    Oct 4, 2008 at 12:46 pm
    Oct 6, 2008 at 8:05 pm
  • Hello, While I was working on getdate function, found different behavior with respect to http://in.php.net/manual/en/function.getdate.php This is observed only on linux 64bit. Here is code <?php ...
    Sanjay MantoorSanjay Mantoor
    Oct 29, 2008 at 4:53 am
    Oct 30, 2008 at 7:23 am
  • there is an small modification for interbase tests in 003.phpt (ext/interbase/tests/003.phpt) in the expected output it should be this way diff -u ...
    Marius popaMarius popa
    Oct 28, 2008 at 3:49 pm
    Oct 28, 2008 at 7:01 pm
  • PHP 6 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net/ Num Status Summary (68 total -- which includes 31 feature requests) ===============================================[*General Issues]============== ...
    InternalsInternals
    Oct 6, 2008 at 10:00 am
    Oct 27, 2008 at 10:00 am
  • PHP 5 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net/ Num Status Summary (1300 total -- which includes 699 feature requests) ===============================================[*General Issues]============== ...
    InternalsInternals
    Oct 6, 2008 at 9:30 am
    Oct 27, 2008 at 9:30 am
  • Hi, Someone mentioned that it is possible to change keybindings so that it is easier to do [] {} and \. The only post I've found that mentions anything about this is ...
    Greg BeaverGreg Beaver
    Oct 27, 2008 at 12:15 am
    Oct 27, 2008 at 7:53 am
  • Hi, I've been comparing testsuite results with PHP compiled in 32 bits vs PHP compiled in 64 bits in Linux on powerpc. I see some tests which fail in ppc64 but don't fail in ppc32. I'd like to ask ...
    Thiago Jung BauermannThiago Jung Bauermann
    Oct 15, 2008 at 6:45 pm
    Nov 17, 2008 at 10:03 pm
  • Hi, With namespaces and "use" we'll be introducing a new kind of discrepancy between a string reference to a function, and the short "use"-enhanced name for the same function. This becomes very ...
    Stan Vassilev | FMStan Vassilev | FM
    Oct 29, 2008 at 7:35 am
    Oct 30, 2008 at 12:31 pm
  • Hi My vote is option 1 please. "use ::: as separator between namespace name and element" Thanks, bye S.L.
    Stef-comStef-com
    Oct 17, 2008 at 4:30 pm
    Oct 17, 2008 at 4:44 pm
  • Evening All, Could anybody either point me to some existing documentation as to the specifics of Garbage Collection in PHP; specifically for multi-process (forked) CLI applications. Specifically when ...
    Nathan RixhamNathan Rixham
    Oct 15, 2008 at 9:14 pm
    Oct 15, 2008 at 9:54 pm
  • Hello, I already contributed and committed tests in the "ext/standard/array" and"ext/gd" area. I already wrote and would like to contribute tests on "date" related functions. I have CVS account with ...
    Sanjay MantoorSanjay Mantoor
    Oct 15, 2008 at 6:39 am
    Oct 15, 2008 at 7:09 am
  • Hi all, Isn't it time to retire PHP 4.4 in gcov.php.net? It's just wasted resources for that version Greg
    Gregory BeaverGregory Beaver
    Oct 12, 2008 at 6:57 am
    Oct 12, 2008 at 3:18 pm
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