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  • Okay, For those of you playing the home game, Take 5, with Damian & Larry's latest inputs. ^ means xor again, and a few things have been removed. Comments? Note that I will next post a list of ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 30, 2002 at 1:15 am
    Nov 5, 2002 at 8:58 pm
  • Delegation is a basic OO technique. We definately should have fast, well-designed core support for it. -- Michael G. Schwern <schwern@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl Quality Assurance ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Oct 4, 2002 at 4:37 am
    Oct 12, 2002 at 7:38 pm
  • Here is an extensive FAQ for Unicode and UTF-8: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html and here is a test file that will show you how many of the "most common glyphs" (WGL4, via Microsoft) you ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 31, 2002 at 5:33 pm
    Nov 17, 2002 at 2:07 am
  • Buddha Buck: # How would you parse: # # @a = @b[[5]]; A 2D array slice, since you can't hyper numbers? --Brent Dax <brentdax@cpan.org @roles=map {"Parrot $_"} qw(embedding regexen Configure) Wire ...
    Brent DaxBrent Dax
    Oct 30, 2002 at 4:32 pm
    Nov 1, 2002 at 4:54 pm
  • Whilst I don't wish to get Medieval on your collective donkey I must say that I'm really not sure of the utility of the proposed infix superposition ops. I'm a big fan of any/all/one/none, I just ...
    Piers CawleyPiers Cawley
    Oct 29, 2002 at 5:46 am
    Oct 31, 2002 at 5:13 pm
  • Okay, take 4, with 'X' meaning xor, so you can see it in context. I warn ya, I'm gonna keep doing this until there's a "Final" version, for some value of "Final". ;-) Again, I'm wondering if we're ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 28, 2002 at 9:23 pm
    Oct 31, 2002 at 2:05 am
  • This came up at YAPC::Europe. Someone [1] wanted to know if 1/0 would produce a divide by zero error in Perl 6, or if it would return a value representing an indeterminate result (undef?) It would ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Oct 14, 2002 at 9:05 pm
    Oct 17, 2002 at 8:39 pm
  • hm. What was wrong with just '^' again? Reading the threads, it seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. Ed
    Ed PeschkoEd Peschko
    Oct 31, 2002 at 7:16 pm
    Nov 2, 2002 at 12:32 am
  • If \ meant xor, and some of the other discussed changes: unary (prefix) operators: \ - reference to * - list flattening ? - force to bool context ! - force to bool context, negate not - force to bool ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 27, 2002 at 9:59 pm
    Oct 29, 2002 at 8:11 pm
  • (Disclaimer: My purpose in proposing this is not to recommend it, but to document whether the idea should be endorsed, or shot down, and any proposed canonical syntax. Note that the later ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 4, 2002 at 11:39 pm
    Oct 14, 2002 at 8:22 pm
  • Will Perl6 have labeled if blocks? Like this: BLAH: if ($foo) { ... last BLAH if $bar; ... } Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. ...
    Steve CanfieldSteve Canfield
    Oct 27, 2002 at 1:23 am
    Nov 3, 2002 at 1:20 am
  • While writing documentation: a trivial question on the boolean type, C<bit : my bit $light_switch; Q: Can bits/bools be undefined? Perl conventions would indicate yes. Does that mean that an array of ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 31, 2002 at 10:42 pm
    Nov 3, 2002 at 3:17 pm
  • What's the plan on having properties, or attributes (depending on how far we're taking it), on individual characters in a string? I think it's an essential feature, as Lisp has shown us. If there's ...
    Luke PalmerLuke Palmer
    Oct 21, 2002 at 5:09 am
    Oct 23, 2002 at 12:58 am
  • I was wondering what the favored syntax in perl6 would be to match negative multi-byte strings. In perl 5: $sql = "select * from a where b union select * from c where d"; my $nonunion = ...
    Esp5Esp5
    Oct 1, 2002 at 7:29 pm
    Oct 7, 2002 at 5:37 pm
  • Here's try #2. Things that are not true operators or have other caveats are marked, where known. LMKA. unary (prefix) operators: \ - reference to * - list flattening ? - force to bool context ! - ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 25, 2002 at 11:09 pm
    Oct 28, 2002 at 5:36 pm
  • (Disclaimer: My purpose in proposing this is not to recommend it, but to document whether the idea should be endorsed, or shot down, and any proposed canonical syntax. Note that the later ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 4, 2002 at 11:38 pm
    Oct 12, 2002 at 9:42 pm
  • I was wondering... How persistant are superpositions? How pervasive are they? I mean, will the following work? $letters = any('a'..'z'); $digits = any('0'..'9'); $ndaTable = { start = { $letters = ...
    Buddha BuckBuddha Buck
    Oct 29, 2002 at 9:03 pm
    Oct 30, 2002 at 10:55 pm
  • Yes, you heard right. A cookbook describing stuff that hasn't yet been designed, for a language that doesn't yet exist. Having flashbacks to your college years, anyone? The purpose of the Cookbook is ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 10, 2002 at 12:35 am
    Oct 15, 2002 at 4:24 pm
  • Hi, Perl is my favorite language, and I'm eagerly following Perl 6 development. So I would like to ask this question here. Sorry if I'm being inconvenient... Do you think that Lisp macros make the ...
    Adriano Nagelschmidt RodriguesAdriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
    Oct 23, 2002 at 9:43 pm
    Oct 26, 2002 at 6:22 pm
  • OK, by my count -- after editing to reflect Larry's notes -- only a few issues remain before the ops list can be completed. ---- 1) Need a definitive syntax for hypers, ^[op] and «op» have been most ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 31, 2002 at 12:35 am
    Nov 6, 2002 at 8:00 pm
  • Given an acyclic graph of nodes, where a node has a method C<kids , returning a list of all the nodes it points to, is it the case that the following code: sub descent($src, $dst) { when $src == $dst ...
    Piers CawleyPiers Cawley
    Oct 30, 2002 at 2:25 pm
    Oct 30, 2002 at 6:45 pm
  • SUMMARY The 'untaintby' property restricts which modules may untaint the data or data derived from that data. DETAILS I was recently using a module I downloaded from CPAN and looking through the code ...
    MosullivanMosullivan
    Oct 14, 2002 at 2:09 pm
    Oct 14, 2002 at 10:28 pm
  • Observation: We're doing a *lot* of talking past each other. Proposed Remedy: We need to better document our discussions so that we don't keep having them. --- I volunteer (*shudder*) to be another ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 4, 2002 at 7:01 pm
    Oct 4, 2002 at 11:50 pm
  • : "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a language in : possession of a rich syntax must be in need of a rewrite." : -- Jane Austen? It is a truth universally acknowledged that a language in ...
    Larry WallLarry Wall
    Oct 30, 2002 at 7:09 pm
    Oct 31, 2002 at 8:29 am
  • A brainstorm for your enjoyment, perusal, and general discussion... SUMMARY A proposal for an extension to the usual exception handling concept. The concept detailed here provides a mechanism for ...
    MosullivanMosullivan
    Oct 15, 2002 at 6:33 pm
    Oct 22, 2002 at 9:19 am
  • Where is the most definitive list of known Perl6 (not Parrot) builtin types? The following have been specified/implied by the A/Es: scalar bit (== bool? == boolean?) num int str bigint bignum ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 23, 2002 at 6:03 pm
    Oct 24, 2002 at 1:54 am
  • I was writing up a quick beginner-level summary on variables & assignment yesterday evening, mostly to get my head around the syntax as it currently stands. You can see it at ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 15, 2002 at 7:23 pm
    Oct 16, 2002 at 11:33 pm
  • for @a - $x, $y { ... $x is topic ... } for @a ; @b - $x, $y ; $z { ... WHAT is topic ? ... } what is topic in multi stream loop ? arcadi
    FearcadiFearcadi
    Oct 31, 2002 at 11:33 pm
    Nov 1, 2002 at 10:18 am
  • Here is more to think about. No freaking out, this is just for mulling... If we, for the moment, assume the use of «op» for hypers, that obviously raises the _possibility_ of using some other ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 31, 2002 at 8:12 pm
    Oct 31, 2002 at 8:59 pm
  • OK, perl6-language is getting scary again ;-) So here's something else to think about. Code coverage. We don't have to worry about how to do it here. That's a problem for internals, and they seem to ...
    Paul JohnsonPaul Johnson
    Oct 29, 2002 at 10:20 pm
    Oct 30, 2002 at 12:13 pm
  • From: Andrew Rodland arodland@noln.com Sorry bout that. Your searching was probably as difficult as my attempts to pronounce it. Yup. It would be cool to be able to overload &&, ||, and ! to ...
    MosullivanMosullivan
    Oct 15, 2002 at 12:58 am
    Oct 15, 2002 at 9:56 am
  • Ok, it's only been 24 hours and I've already decided this needs extending. People like the concept, but want a way to more easily contribute to it. And as it turns out, it's not as entirely useless ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 11, 2002 at 7:53 am
    Oct 11, 2002 at 5:45 pm
  • (Disclaimer: My purpose in proposing this is not to recommend it, but to document whether the idea should be endorsed, or shot down, and any proposed canonical syntax. Note that the later ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 4, 2002 at 11:41 pm
    Oct 5, 2002 at 9:42 am
  • Last year at JAOO I stumbled on this thing called Subject-Oriented Programming which looked interesting. I dug up some papers on the subject and tried to make an implementation but found I really ...
    Michael G SchwernMichael G Schwern
    Oct 1, 2002 at 3:22 am
    Oct 2, 2002 at 9:06 pm
  • damian's syntax table and his use of the term vectorizing made me wonder why we call his [op] thing a hyperoperator? the word hyper i assume came from hyperdimensional. but calling [] the vectorizing ...
    Uri GuttmanUri Guttman
    Oct 29, 2002 at 7:56 pm
    Oct 29, 2002 at 8:45 pm
  • No, I've had to use it off-and-on for the past year... it deserves it. :-) But enough of that. I agree, prototype based inheritance is really useful sometimes. (Those of you not subjected to JS may ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 15, 2002 at 6:03 pm
    Oct 15, 2002 at 6:25 pm
  • : in : http://archive.develooper.com/perl6-language%40perl.org/msg11451.html : Larry Wall wrote: : for @cases ^| @newcases - $x is rw | $y {...} : : do I understand correctly that what happens is ...
    Larry WallLarry Wall
    Oct 14, 2002 at 5:05 pm
    Oct 15, 2002 at 10:49 am
  • Somewhere, deep in the bowels of some Digital Equipment .. err .. Compaq .. err .. HP building, there's a guy getting major wood because ALL THAT WORK that he chipped in so many years ago on the 'X' ...
    Austin HastingsAustin Hastings
    Oct 31, 2002 at 3:23 pm
    Oct 31, 2002 at 3:23 pm
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    Austin HastingsAustin Hastings
    Oct 28, 2002 at 9:01 pm
    Oct 28, 2002 at 9:01 pm
  • : If one were going to generalize that, one would be tempted to go the Ada : route of specifying the radix explicitly: : Ada and others . . . ksh uses the # for this (in place of your colon below), : ...
    Larry WallLarry Wall
    Oct 28, 2002 at 5:24 pm
    Oct 28, 2002 at 5:24 pm
  • The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 20021020 I'm sorry to have to inform you that I've returned from my holiday (no, base jumping and paragliding were *not* involved) and that this week's summary ...
    Piers CawleyPiers Cawley
    Oct 22, 2002 at 11:44 am
    Oct 22, 2002 at 11:44 am
  • The Perl6 OO Cookbook, v0.2 is online. http://cog.cognitivity.com/perl6/ Changes include: [] *Much* better accuracy in most of the early recipes (better matching to Apos/Exes and perl6-language: see ...
    Michael LazzaroMichael Lazzaro
    Oct 21, 2002 at 10:28 pm
    Oct 21, 2002 at 10:28 pm
  • Perl 6 summary for week beginning 2002-10-07 This is yet another Perl 6 summary, documenting what has happened over on the perl6-internals (where Parrot, the virtual machine that will run Perl 6 is ...
    Leon BrocardLeon Brocard
    Oct 15, 2002 at 7:12 pm
    Oct 15, 2002 at 7:12 pm
  • : method _do_internal_init ($num) is private { : : Just thinking aloud, would : sub foo is method is private is integer is fungible { : : be better written as : sub foo is fungible private integer ...
    Larry WallLarry Wall
    Oct 10, 2002 at 6:39 pm
    Oct 10, 2002 at 6:39 pm
  • Maybe of interest to some, probably of no interest to most, but this is the first time I've noticed the use of a perl6 regexp flag in the wild. Or however "wild" #london.pm on IRC passes for: ...
    Nicholas ClarkNicholas Clark
    Oct 9, 2002 at 10:48 am
    Oct 9, 2002 at 10:48 am
  • Oops, sorry, just realized my mailing header info didn't contain my full name (Ed Peschko). Anyways, the point was that multi-byte non-matching support was abysmal, and to propose a new syntax. The ...
    Esp5Esp5
    Oct 7, 2002 at 3:25 am
    Oct 7, 2002 at 3:25 am
  • Perl 6 summary for week beginning 2002-09-30 This is yet another Perl 6 summary, documenting what has happened over on the perl6-internals (where Parrot, the virtual machine that will run Perl 6 is ...
    Leon BrocardLeon Brocard
    Oct 6, 2002 at 6:51 pm
    Oct 6, 2002 at 6:51 pm
  • What about when you want to be able to dynamically swap the objects to which you're delegating? -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: ...
    Garrett GoebelGarrett Goebel
    Oct 4, 2002 at 6:21 pm
    Oct 4, 2002 at 6:21 pm
  • The Perl 6 Summary for the Week Ending 20020929 Okay, this is my last summary before I take a couple of week's holiday away from any form of connectivity. Will I cope? Can my system stand going cold ...
    Piers CawleyPiers Cawley
    Oct 1, 2002 at 9:43 am
    Oct 1, 2002 at 9:43 am
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