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  • [resent to perl6-language, sorry for any duplicates] Edward Peschko wrote: Yes and no, I think. As Alan Burlinson pointed out earlier, this is *not* a purely clean-slate we have here to work with. ...
    Nathan WigerNathan Wiger
    Feb 15, 2001 at 11:02 pm
    Feb 22, 2001 at 6:06 pm
  • Well, I thought about it pretty much, and I finally realised what bothered me, and a (pretty reasonable) way to attenuate it a bit. What bothers me is: Suppose I write a perl script to handle, say, ...
    Filipe BrandenburgerFilipe Brandenburger
    Feb 8, 2001 at 8:53 am
    Feb 17, 2001 at 12:31 am
  • Since everyone's spinning aimlessly around, I'll throw out something for everyone to think about, and perhaps we can get a PDD out of it. One of the features of perl 6 is going to be the ability to ...
    Dan SugalskiDan Sugalski
    Feb 1, 2001 at 3:14 pm
    Feb 6, 2001 at 5:31 pm
  • I actually don't understand how traversing a graph can be faster than incrementing/decrementing/testing for zero on a refcount. I believe you, but I just don't understand. Could you point me to some ...
    BrandenBranden
    Feb 5, 2001 at 2:38 pm
    Feb 14, 2001 at 11:12 pm
  • Perl 6 ought to provide universal exit mechanisms for any delimited scope, both for the case of normal sequential termination of scope, and for the typically special cases of termination by non-local ...
    Tony OlekshyTony Olekshy
    Feb 5, 2001 at 10:35 pm
    Feb 27, 2001 at 11:16 pm
  • I don't really see what this buys us. First, `return' already handles it, and it finishes sub execution. How would it be handled with that? `foo = 42; last;'? I think `return 42;' is better... And ...
    BrandenBranden
    Feb 5, 2001 at 10:55 am
    Feb 10, 2001 at 12:02 pm
  • Looking over some C code of the form int fname(char *param){ int rval; ... return(rval); } I recalled hearing about a language (was it java?) where you set the return value of a function (was it VB?) ...
    David L. NicolDavid L. Nicol
    Feb 2, 2001 at 1:13 am
    Feb 6, 2001 at 11:52 am
  • yet another _example_ of perl's "expert vs. newbie" snobbery. the "perl mindset": it's what's now driving perl toward the unix programming language "dustbin"...by driving "newbies" away. the tchrist ...
    Yaphet jonesYaphet jones
    Feb 17, 2001 at 3:58 pm
    Feb 18, 2001 at 9:44 pm
  • Well, I'll try to reach to an agreement here, since this discussion is getting pretty much pointless. What do we know: a) Many of us want Perl to have globals as default, what is opposed to some that ...
    BrandenBranden
    Feb 16, 2001 at 4:55 pm
    Feb 18, 2001 at 2:46 am
  • With Perl 6, it will (probably) be possible to have values with boolean value independent of integer or string values, so that it will be possible to have a value that when viewed as string or number ...
    BrandenBranden
    Feb 15, 2001 at 12:30 pm
    Feb 16, 2001 at 10:57 am
  • From: Dan Sugalski This is perhaps the 3rd recent "waiting for Larry" comment posted in the last week. I don't mind waiting... good things take time. But this mushroom _is_ curious to hear if anyone ...
    Garrett GoebelGarrett Goebel
    Feb 20, 2001 at 6:10 pm
    Feb 22, 2001 at 5:08 pm
  • I know. I was having fun. We haven't had a lurktrollmuffin in here before and it was a good diversion from the drollery of waiting... 'Sides, I happen to _like_ defending Perl from nonsensicals, ...
    David GroveDavid Grove
    Feb 18, 2001 at 5:28 pm
    Feb 18, 2001 at 10:19 pm
  • As many of you may know, I've recently moved to the other side of the world, and my life's a bit hectic. I hadn't counted on p6-l bursting into life just now, and while I'd like to keep right up to ...
    Kirrily Skud RobertKirrily Skud Robert
    Feb 15, 2001 at 2:57 pm
    Feb 15, 2001 at 4:27 pm
  • What is this talk of software 'releases'? Klingons do not 'release' software; our software ESCAPES, leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake! -- $jhi++; # ...
    Jarkko HietaniemiJarkko Hietaniemi
    Feb 27, 2001 at 9:32 pm
    Feb 28, 2001 at 5:07 pm
  • "currying" used in a fascinating context: an experimental language in which http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/madore/programs/unlambda/#tut everything is a unary function. Multiple-argument ...
    David L. NicolDavid L. Nicol
    Feb 19, 2001 at 7:18 pm
    Feb 20, 2001 at 2:40 pm
  • We're having a blizzard in Kansas City. After breakfasting, changing the litter box, and hiking to work through the snow, I am finally looking at Conway's RFC 271. Guess which one of the earlier ...
    David L. NicolDavid L. Nicol
    Feb 9, 2001 at 6:18 pm
    Feb 9, 2001 at 8:22 pm
  • Notify perl6-pdd@perl.org after sending the (unnumbered) PDD to perl6-internals and I will add it to the list. Will be changed when the PDD traffic gets higher. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - ...
    Ask Bjoern HansenAsk Bjoern Hansen
    Feb 21, 2001 at 2:13 am
    Feb 21, 2001 at 9:22 am
  • <much deleted As much as I'd like to respond to some of these points, I'll refrain from it now, I'll let my RFCs speak for themselves. Speaking of which... apologies in advance for cross-posting ...
    Edward PeschkoEdward Peschko
    Feb 20, 2001 at 3:18 am
    Feb 20, 2001 at 4:38 am
  • I don't care who's trolling who, or who's not trolling who. I don't want to hear Yet Another My-Language-Is-Cleaner-Than-Perl-And-Will-Beat-The-Pants-Off-It argument. Get this off perl6-*. Take it to ...
    SchwernSchwern
    Feb 18, 2001 at 5:11 pm
    Feb 19, 2001 at 12:23 am
  • Hi all, I'm trying to locate information about the Perl 6 Language, i.e. what changes are proposed to the Perl language and so on. Can anyone point me in the right direction ??? Espen Harlinn Senior ...
    Espen HarlinnEspen Harlinn
    Feb 18, 2001 at 9:04 pm
    Feb 18, 2001 at 9:16 pm
  • try/except Actually, I have heard talk among us about eliminating $! and return values from such functions as open(). This was likely extremicisit view during the RFC's but the image stuck pretty ...
    David GroveDavid Grove
    Feb 22, 2001 at 4:39 pm
    Feb 22, 2001 at 4:39 pm
  • [ Cc: perl6-language, ask@perl.org ] Yaphet, As you may be aware, I've been a bit absent from p6-language lately, as I've been moving to Canada and rather busy. So I apologise for not having brought ...
    Kirrily RobertKirrily Robert
    Feb 19, 2001 at 8:05 pm
    Feb 19, 2001 at 8:05 pm
  • From: Steve Simmons Extra code is. Which knack had you obfuscation for could left out have been. --Yoda My personal preference is that we firmly entrench Inline.pm as a barrier between your average ...
    Garrett GoebelGarrett Goebel
    Feb 15, 2001 at 10:06 pm
    Feb 15, 2001 at 10:06 pm
  • Folks, I would really appreciate it if we could all hold off on discussions of garbage collecting for a little bit. We're all getting sloppy with terminology, and fuzzy with what does what and when. ...
    Dan SugalskiDan Sugalski
    Feb 14, 2001 at 3:31 pm
    Feb 14, 2001 at 3:31 pm
  • crossed to -internals Jan Dubois: But that would be the point of the API, no? Even in XS, you'd interface through perl for memory or file management. So the core would still be able to invoke the GC. ...
    Bryan C . WarnockBryan C . Warnock
    Feb 12, 2001 at 3:28 am
    Feb 12, 2001 at 3:28 am
  • [CC'ed to language, because I think it's there that it belongs] No way. Although I think aliasing is a great tool, but assignment is by value. Always. (Well, except for referenced things...) I think ...
    Bart LateurBart Lateur
    Feb 7, 2001 at 12:48 pm
    Feb 7, 2001 at 12:48 pm
  • We seem to have gotten rather off the point. We will have some method to serialize chunks of perl code and the associated variables and freeze them off somewhere (disk, sockets, databases, whatever) ...
    Dan SugalskiDan Sugalski
    Feb 6, 2001 at 4:16 am
    Feb 6, 2001 at 4:16 am
  • Yes that is what came mind when I heard the vague references about Larry's plan to support the coexistence of different module versions in Perl6. I was wondering where the corresponding RFC was, but ...
    Garrett GoebelGarrett Goebel
    Feb 5, 2001 at 4:08 pm
    Feb 5, 2001 at 4:08 pm
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